Here we go again... "life begins at conception" bullshit.

Uggh, hurry the fuck UP Nov 5th!!!

>> ^EDD:
here we go again:
http://www.videosift.com/video/When-hes-not-bustin-crooks-hes-bustin
-moves


Ooo yup: dupe.

^Here we go again.

I'm fine with people that read accurate information and make the decision that they're not interested.

Q:When did I say anything about being persecuted?
(I simply want to put a stop to incorrect information being spread on THIS website.)

Q:When did anyone say "don't worry about that part"?
(I consider all parts too, my man.)

I told you before: I'm not apologetic about ANY of my beliefs. I'm no Barack Obama. I haven't heard anything in church, or read anything from the leaders in my church that I don't believe or that I would try to sweep under the rug.

The half truths being told about my beliefs, on the other hand, I would like to get rid of.



>> ^MINK:
^actually, the mere presence of the guys in the white shirts freaks me out and i consider it a mild "force" in my face in the street. I can take the pain, i just think it's what some people call "offensive", for example if i wore a "fuck god" tshirt all day and asked people in the street if they would like to talk about Satan. It would be... rude.
one thing i am noticing is the need to tell us how persecuted you are. that's interesting. I would say you choose persecution if you follow an unconventional path, whatever that is. if it was purely your skin colour it would be unfair to persecute, but it's your chosen belief, you have to take the knocks.
As for the defences here of Mormonism, they seem to amount to "don't worry about that part". I am afraid I consider all the parts, and I wouldn't want to be part of an organisation with parts like that, even if it contains nice people in other parts.
all your life you were told mormonism is good, and you seem to find it hard to understand that some good people simply weren't born into that tradition, and that from the outside, it looks ridiculous (like most religions). some retards will throw retarded accusations, but other people will read a lot about your religion (from many sources) and simply decide it's not believable or coherent.

here we go again:
http://www.videosift.com/video/When-hes-not-bustin-crooks-hes-bustin-moves

Here we go again. I won't be offended if anybody downvotes. Really. *requeue

some jokes are better said with a straight face. i figured those who know how critical of ALL religions I am would get a laugh out of the comment

In reply to this comment by deedub81:
A joke? Oh. Heh. (You didn't include a smiley face you hypocrite

In reply to this comment by qruel:
every religion has started off as a cult.(as based on definitions #1,2,4,5,6,7

i don't agree with definition #8 to be used in the context we are talking about because it uses as it's basis "a system for treating human sickness" I think definition #6 is more appropriate

"a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."

I won't comment on the rest because my statement was a joke.


In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Here we go again.

From your own definition: "a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."

Do ALL religions fall under the umbrella of that statement? How about this:"any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific."

Dictionary.com

Do you have any facts to support the claim that "Scientology is one of the worlds most loving caring, compassionate religions which brings people together." ???

Seems to me that there are far more loving, caring, compassionate religions out there. The kind who spend countless dollars and resources helping people in need. The Church of Scientology just tries it's hardest to make itself look good and sue the pants off anyone who stands in the way of that goal. Sure, they bring people together... by hypnotizing them!

...and how come all these other less compassionate churches don't have to fight with the government to receive Tax Exempt status?



In reply to this comment by qruel:
You people have no idea what your talking about. Scientology is one of the worlds most loving caring, compassionate religions which brings people together.

NEWSFLASH: ALL RELIGIONS ARE CULTS !

acceptance of a religion from the masses is the only difference between a religion being a cult or not.

CULT http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult

every religion has started off as a cult.(as based on definitions #1,2,4,5,6,7

i don't agree with definition #8 to be used in the context we are talking about because it uses as it's basis "a system for treating human sickness" I think definition #6 is more appropriate

"a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."

I won't comment on the rest because my statement was a joke.


In reply to this comment by deedub81:
Here we go again.

From your own definition: "a religion or sect considered to be false, unorthodox, or extremist, with members often living outside of conventional society under the direction of a charismatic leader."

Do ALL religions fall under the umbrella of that statement? How about this:"any system for treating human sickness that originated by a person usually claiming to have sole insight into the nature of disease, and that employs methods regarded as unorthodox or unscientific."

Dictionary.com

Do you have any facts to support the claim that "Scientology is one of the worlds most loving caring, compassionate religions which brings people together." ???

Seems to me that there are far more loving, caring, compassionate religions out there. The kind who spend countless dollars and resources helping people in need. The Church of Scientology just tries it's hardest to make itself look good and sue the pants off anyone who stands in the way of that goal. Sure, they bring people together... by hypnotizing them!

...and how come all these other less compassionate churches don't have to fight with the government to receive Tax Exempt status?



In reply to this comment by qruel:
You people have no idea what your talking about. Scientology is one of the worlds most loving caring, compassionate religions which brings people together.

NEWSFLASH: ALL RELIGIONS ARE CULTS !

acceptance of a religion from the masses is the only difference between a religion being a cult or not.

CULT http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/cult

here we go again... I like the video and laughed, but I've seen it being posted and discarded so many times now, can't be bothered to upvote as it will never reach the frontpage... blah... upvoted anyways

here we go again *requeue

oh geez... here we go again...

Yeah...and the first time they announced that Paul was in the lead at double the votes of the runner up you could hear Hannity in the background groaning something like "Here we go again".

Here we go again...

To Persephone:
That "righteous tone" that Condell, and most of us anti-theists seem to take on is a result of us being sick and tired of religion, religious "values", and religious practices being shoved down our throats time and time again due to the weakness of politicians and the loud vocal religious constituents that demand these practices be put in place despite their not being the only voice. For some reason it's okay in society today to be passionate about one's religion, but it's not okay to be passionate about one's lack of religion. Explain to me why that is reasonable?

To BlueCliff:
I don't even know where to begin... I'm probably going to let another Sifter who is more eloquent, smarter and more historically savvy than me to expound, because I just can't think straight due to my disgust, but I'll give a short reply. Anyone, feel free to correct me, as I'm on my second glass of Sangria and am very angry.

The United States of America was specifically designed to NOT involve God. The founding fathers, during the Age of Reason, knew better than to involve any sort of theocratic stipulations within the Constitution. Yes, many of the founders were Christian, however many were deists, and many, including Jefferson showed a great deal of doubt about any God at all to the point of at least agnosticism. There was a lot of deliberation on the subject, from what I understand, but in the end, they reasoned that the separation of church and state was beneficial for BOTH the church and the state. And as a result, they created the longest running Republic in the history of the world. It has only been after the creation of the union, and in particular in the 1900's due to the evil threat of "Godless communism" that the religious have gained any sort of foothold and perverted American politics. To say that America can't exist without God, to me, is offensive and an affront to everything that the founding fathers tried to do.

That is why I get so passionate about my atheism. Yes, we have a lot of Protestant "morals" in this country, but most of them are antiquated and childish and based on repression and shame. They mostly serve to hold society, reason, and science back. However removing God from the equation in no way means that we are going to resort to some anarchistic, amoral society.

Condell's whole point of this is that European countries have been becoming more of a free democracy and less of a theocratic state in the last century, while we've gone backwards, and yet for some reason, they are now allowing a new Islamic theocracy to invade their system and allow for crimes that would otherwise be intolerable. And why? Just so that they don't offend that small religious segment? The freedoms that they've gained are too important to lose to another set of religious dogma, whatever the religion may be.

Okay, that was way longer than I intended... With apologies...

1 vote? Here we go again...*SAVE!

here we go again... while tragic, this is not snuff...

These protest videos are never to be trusted. As a wing of leftist interests, the American drive-by media ignores truth around the clock. The cameras never quite seem to roll until the first hippie gets dropped, do they?

The fragile self-esteem of a generation of spoiled ignorami spawned by the Worstest Generation depends on repeating history by sabotaging the Iraqi war effort like their treasonous breeders sabotaged Vietnam. But unlike Oriental communists, sandthugs aren't content to stay put and murder their own, but migrate to other lands and kill for the sake of mullah-fabricated hogwash.

Can't believe this must be explained, but here we go again: islamofascists aren't going to stop killing around the world because the US pulls out of Iraq, if anything the opposite will occur.

islamofascists aren't going away except by death; therefore I prefer it be their deaths, not ours.