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Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

dannym3141 says...

>> ^jcf79:

"If you let one of them run loose, what are you gonna do with the rest of them, let them go too?"
Well, yeah, that's one possibility. Or, hey, maybe this Judge could actually do his job, otherwise lets just replace him with a Judgebot 3000 and save the taxpayers some money.


Brilliant point. Never been able to express that point so clearly!

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

chingalera says...

>> ^shagen454:

@Boise_Lib
shagen454
notarobot
Stormsinger
calmlyintoit

The problem isn't so much the judge but Texas itself. Release Austin from your belly vile wretch!
Uhh,yeah.-Blame a state ya pusillanimous and oft ("ist") assholes-The problem ain't with a state-It's with the state of mind that ejects such bile in the form of comments. Read a fucking book or GET OUT MORE!!!

bobknight33 nailed it. You others well, you need schooling!

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

Stormsinger says...

>> ^seltar:

"She had broken a Texan law that makes it a crime to miss more than 10 days of school in a six month period, according to local news
When she recently missed classes again, he issued a summons and had her arrested in open court when she appeared." - src
So yeah, that judge is an Asshat for what he did, but the fact there is a law for missing school in Texas is even worse.


Yep, that's Texas for you. Home of the small braingovernment crowd.

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Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

Auger8 says...

I think they can suspend you now too but that sort of defeats the purpose if you ask me doesn't it? But the rules have changed a lot since I went to school here is Texas and that was only 13 years ago.
>> ^MilkmanDan:

>> ^Auger8:
Public schools aren't allowed to expel someone for truancy, they can fail you but not expel you. Not on that fact alone and I say as long as she was turning her work in who cares if she was there or not. When I went to school I regularly missed 20-30 days a year due to a chronic illness but I always did my work my parents would pick up my make up work I completed it and I never failed a single grade and had honors classes in junior high and high school.

I didn't know that schools can't expel you for truancy -- good to know. Can they suspend you?
I think there are times when actually attending class is pretty important to providing a valid assessment/grade for a student, and teachers/schools do need to be able to fail a student that isn't showing up. Lab classes and other situations where you can't just do an assignment on your own time and have it graded equivalently to a student who is actually there, for example. Most of the time that probably isn't something that they should do, but in general I think that the teacher's and school's discretion is important.
I definitely agree that if she is turning in her work and measuring up to the standards of her teachers and the general school guidelines, I don't care how many days she misses. Still, I think that it is reasonable for her to have to "lobby her case" to her teachers and administration. Just not a judge. School handing out whatever punishment they feel is necessary or called for (quite possibly none) -- fine. Night in jail -- ridiculous.

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

Auger8 says...

Here's the thing about that law it's not typically designed to punish the student, I live in Texas I know, the law is mainly targeted for parents who don't care to make sure their child goes to school or even care if their children get an education period. For some reason truancy in Texas has spiked dramatically in recent years since nothing else they've done seems to work so they've started telling parents that if you don't make sure your kid goes to school you could possibly be faced with jail time for neglect. This is actually the first time I've heard of a student themselves being jailed and I can only assume it's because she has no parents to hold accountable. Do I agree with the law no, do I think this was taken WAY too far in this case, definitely. But I still can't come up with a better answer for getting parents to realize that's it's not okay if you don't make sure your child gets a proper education. I still think these things need to be tried on a case by case basis and if the child is on their own that EVERY available solution should be explored first before resorting to drastic measures like this. That said there are some kids who simply won't go even if you walk them in the door to school every day yourself. If a kid wants to get out of school that bad they'll wait for first period to end and skip class on their own. So what do we do then? What do you do about parents who simply refuse to take their kids to school and also refuse to pull their kids out of school?(Which is entirely legal in Texas, you can pull your kids out of school anytime you wish.) Do we continue to let them waste tax payer dollars, Teacher's time and other children's resources?(For instance some electives only have so many slots per class) I don't know I don't think they should be so cavalier about sending a kid to jail but if you don't take drastic measures with some kids/parents they simply won't listen any other way.

>> ^seltar:

"She had broken a Texan law that makes it a crime to miss more than 10 days of school in a six month period, according to local news
When she recently missed classes again, he issued a summons and had her arrested in open court when she appeared." - src
So yeah, that judge is an Asshat for what he did, but the fact there is a law for missing school in Texas is even worse.

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Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

seltar says...

"She had broken a Texan law that makes it a crime to miss more than 10 days of school in a six month period, according to local news

When she recently missed classes again, he issued a summons and had her arrested in open court when she appeared." - src

So yeah, that judge is an Asshat for what he did, but the fact there is a law for missing school in Texas is even worse.

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

MilkmanDan says...

>> ^Auger8:

Public schools aren't allowed to expel someone for truancy, they can fail you but not expel you. Not on that fact alone and I say as long as she was turning her work in who cares if she was there or not. When I went to school I regularly missed 20-30 days a year due to a chronic illness but I always did my work my parents would pick up my make up work I completed it and I never failed a single grade and had honors classes in junior high and high school.


I didn't know that schools can't expel you for truancy -- good to know. Can they suspend you?

I think there are times when actually attending class is pretty important to providing a valid assessment/grade for a student, and teachers/schools do need to be able to fail a student that isn't showing up. Lab classes and other situations where you can't just do an assignment on your own time and have it graded equivalently to a student who is actually there, for example. Most of the time that probably isn't something that they should do, but in general I think that the teacher's and school's discretion is important.

I definitely agree that if she is turning in her work and measuring up to the standards of her teachers and the general school guidelines, I don't care how many days she misses. Still, I think that it is reasonable for her to have to "lobby her case" to her teachers and administration. Just not a judge. School handing out whatever punishment they feel is necessary or called for (quite possibly none) -- fine. Night in jail -- ridiculous.

Diane Tran - Honor Student Jailed for Missing School

Auger8 says...

Public schools aren't allowed to expel someone for truancy, they can fail you but not expel you. Not on that fact alone and I say as long as she was turning her work in who cares if she was there or not. When I went to school I regularly missed 20-30 days a year due to a chronic illness but I always did my work my parents would pick up my make up work I completed it and I never failed a single grade and had honors classes in junior high and high school.

>> ^MilkmanDan:

I don't see how this is a criminal / court issue at all.
If the school wants to kick her out, that would be their decision (it'd be a dick thing to do, but up to them). She is old enough to drop out, so the idea that the government can get entangled with "excessive truancy" is completely ridiculous.
If she isn't completing schoolwork, tell her that she may fail courses and therefore fail to graduate. But from the side that we're hearing here, it sounds like she is keeping up just fine.
Whatever the whole story is, it seems to be that it should be an issue between the school and the student. Judge needs to stop power-tripping.

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