Use of force incident at Walmart in East Syracuse NY

Police video: Use of force incident at Walmart in East Syracuse NY
Mordhaussays...

Well, the one cop is going to lose his job. I can understand his frustration, but even if someone is biting you, you can't just slug them. Not when you have a Taser and help.

I do have to wonder why the female cop is not helping. Both guys could have used some help to keep the crowd back at least. The closest I saw he trying to help was when the one lady was biting the guy. As soon as he swung, she raised her hands and was like "Nope, not losing my job or freedom."

newtboysays...

When someone tries to bite you, you or they can absolutely slug them. Self defense is a legitimate defense. His taser was holstered and his help wasn't helping. Once she tried to do him physical harm, she invited them to do harm to her....proportional harm, which I think one punch definitely is, a human bite is incredibly dangerous. I think he'll be fine job wise, but harrassed publicly for hitting a woman because sexism.

I think the female might be in the most danger of reprimand if not firing. She not only didn't help either male, both having obvious serious trouble controlling their arrestees, but saw they also had trouble with the hostile crowd and instead of shielding them from it she hid behind them.

Mordhaussaid:

Well, the one cop is going to lose his job. I can understand his frustration, but even if someone is biting you, you can't just slug them. Not when you have a Taser and help.

I do have to wonder why the female cop is not helping. Both guys could have used some help to keep the crowd back at least. The closest I saw he trying to help was when the one lady was biting the guy. As soon as he swung, she raised her hands and was like "Nope, not losing my job or freedom."

BSRsays...

Totally could have turned out a lot worse than it was being that the cops were outnumbered. The female cop acted as if she was just there as a ride along. Looked really close to having guns drawn.

The pregnant woman sure didn't seem to care too much about protecting her unborn child either.

newtboysaid:

When someone tries to bite you, you or they can absolutely slug them. Self defense is a legitimate defense. His taser was holstered and his help wasn't helping. Once she tried to do him physical harm, she invited them to do harm to her....proportional harm, which I think one punch definitely is, a human bite is incredibly dangerous. I think he'll be fine job wise, but harrassed publicly for hitting a woman because sexism.

I think the female might be in the most danger of reprimand if not firing. She not only didn't help either male, both having obvious serious trouble controlling their arrestees, but saw they also had trouble with the hostile crowd and instead of shielding them from it she hid behind them.

newtboysays...

Come on Bob. We all know why you posted this particular Karen video. We know why you think these particular people are so disrespectful.
It's the same reason you repeatedly lie and claim 99% of crimes against black people is black on black crime.

Just say it, Bob. It's because they're black, and so they have no morals, no self control, and are all violent criminals. Everyone who knows you knows that's what you think. Just admit it. Grow a pair.

bobknight33said:

Why do people act so disrespectful?

If you were pregnant would you act like this?

bobknight33says...

You completely miss quoted me . Would I expect less of you? nope.

"99% of crime against black people is black on black crime."

Is not what I say ..

It 99% black on black killing and 1% cop on black killing. Fix the 99% and the 1% will drop also.



It is not because they are black it is that they are disrespectful and I ask why.


So answer the question why be that disrespectful? There is no reason for this behavior.


Just say it nutboy You don't have a pair to grow.

newtboysaid:

Come on Bob. We all know why you posted this particular Karen video. We know why you think these particular people are so disrespectful.
It's the same reason you repeatedly lie and claim 99% of crime against black people is black on black crime.

Just say it, Bob. It's because they're black, and so they have no morals, no self control, and are all violent criminals. Everyone who knows you knows that's what you think. Just admit it. Grow a pair.

C-notesays...

The police did what they always do when they show up, they immediately put their hands on the black people, which will always escalate the situation resulting in more one-sided violence against the black people. This is why people call the cops. This is the intended result people have when they call the police. Without hearing any sides of the altercation the police chose to get physical and then proceed to drag the black people around. The police were wrong, but they acted as the system intended for them to behave towards minorities. The police will lose in court. The city will pay a settlement to these black women. And finally those who get off on videos like this will have their moment the enjoy another example of white supremacy.

newtboysays...

Actually if you look, I didn't quote you, I paraphrased what you've lied for years, barely missing quoting your recent false claims....i accidentally switched the word "crime" and "killing".
Where's the meaningful difference?
It's still a blatantly racist lie of extreme exaggeration....But you're correct, you recently lied that 99% of black homicides are by other blacks and 1% by police...recently you only imply the lie that 99% of crime against blacks is black on black crime.
The real number if I recall topped out at about 91%, about 7% more than white on white crime at the maximum and falling since 2012 or so. In 2018, 81% of white homicides were white on white, 89% black on black. Claiming it was EVER 99% black on black and 1% police (so 0% white or non black on black) is a bold faced racist lie racists tell....you've been telling it for years despite being shown the real crime statistics from the FBI repeatedly. The slight discrepancy is easily explained by higher poverty rates among blacks and redlining, forcing blacks to live only in designated minority areas with other blacks while whites can buy property anywhere.

You never ask why white Karens are so disrespectful, do you.
We know why you think....because you think most black families don't include fathers, because you believe black men don't raise children, they abandon them.

Maybe it's because they've been disrespected, often to death, for 400 years and don't see a reason to respect their bullies....Just a guess.

No I don't, my pair are grown, I don't need to grow a second pair, nor do I need to show them to little girls like you. Funny, you subconsciously know I have a pair so you call me nutboy...because you imagine them so large they're the main focus of my appearance. Thanks for the unintended compliment.

bobknight33said:

You completely miss quoted me . Would I expect less of you? nope.

"99% of crime against black people is black on black crime."

Is not what I say ..

It 99% black on black killing and 1% cop on black killing. Fix the 99% and the 1% will drop also.



It is not because they are black it is that they are disrespectful and I ask why.


So answer the question why be that disrespectful? There is no reason for this behavior.


Just say it nutboy You don't have a pair to grow.

C-notesays...

It is law enforcement's responsibility and job to protect and serve. The police are suppose to uphold the law and respect the citizens of the community. It is disrespectful to put your hands on someone and especially disturbing to put your hands on a pregnant woman. This also goes against de-escalation training that law enforcement professionals should already have.

Police responding to a scene are paid professionals doing a job. They are owed no respect. There is no law that mandates police receive any respect. The first amendment freedom of speech grants the right to every citizen to express their feeling no matter how disrespectful to the police.

These officers were out of line. They entered a scene where no crime was being committed and immediately took one side and used excessive force. It is a fact that the highest rate of excessive force and death cause by police is against black women. Black women are killed at a higher rate by police then black men. Black women are abused by police at a higher rate then any other demographic.

Respect is earned. Police in america have no intention of even trying earn respect and do not deserve it. Settlements are the only bright spot and one will be paid.

bobknight33said:

Why do people act so disrespectful?

If you were pregnant would you act like this?

newtboysays...

You would be the person to ask.
Trumpsters act like disrespect = patriotism, disrespecting anyone who doesn't sufficiently tow the party line, from military heroes to police to mask wearers and pro-vaccination people to even your own representatives that didn't join the failed coup.

Why do people like you act so disrespectfully?

bobknight33said:

Why do people act so disrespectful?

newtboysays...

Just curious....you are aware that to "fix" (lower) the (inacurate) 99%, more black people need to be killed by white people, right?

So what this statement advocates is more whites (non-blacks) killing blacks, not less black on black homicide, because just less black on black homicide makes the 1% (which is also inaccurate) get higher.

You did intend to be advocating more white on black homicide, right?

bobknight33said:

It 99% black on black killing and 1% cop on black killing. Fix the 99% and the 1% will drop also.

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