Trump Wanted Armed Groups At His Jan 6 Rally

Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows, testified before the Jan. 6 committee that she overheard former President Donald Trump saying that he did not care if his supporters had weapons and armor, they weren’t there to hurt HIM — and suggested he had no issue with them marching to the Capitol armed.
moonsammysays...

So here's a question I find interesting: did the Secret Service technically kidnap Trump, if he didn't want them to take him where they took him? I mean, totally the correct call for them to make, but it looks like the president assaulted his own Secret Service after they kidnapped him. Which is so very, very fucked.

newtboysays...

I’m shocked to find out you may be correct…they don’t seem to have the authority to do more than make security suggestions, directly ignoring direct orders is problematic.

moonsammysaid:

So here's a question I find interesting: did the Secret Service technically kidnap Trump, if he didn't want them to take him where they took him? I mean, totally the correct call for them to make, but it looks like the president assaulted his own Secret Service after they kidnapped him. Which is so very, very fucked.

bobknight33says...

Riveting

Ketchup on the wall, broken plate WOW CNN front page news !!!

POTUS getting mad and making a mess. This is impeachable. This is a serious crime. Brian Stelter is jizzing in his shorts over this wonderful news

Unlike current POTUS Sleepy Joe can't get mad because he can't remember anything.

newtboysaid:

For @bobknight33 to ignore and call “fake news”.

surfingytsays...

I would guess they deny the president many times from going into dangerous situations.

moonsammysaid:

So here's a question I find interesting: did the Secret Service technically kidnap Trump, if he didn't want them to take him where they took him? I mean, totally the correct call for them to make, but it looks like the president assaulted his own Secret Service after they kidnapped him. Which is so very, very fucked.

newtboysays...

Unsurprising, you cherry pick the one non crime mentioned then say something amounting to “look, that’s not a crime, it just indicates Trump is an infant that throws physical tantrums….that’s my man.”
And actually it is a crime, destruction of public property and vandalism of the White House….not that you care.
Also, it shows how outraged Trump was that there was no massive fraud. He wanted there to be fraud, he needed there to be fraud, or at least a lie that there was fraud, and was OUTRAGED there was no fraud and more so that Barr had admitted the truth. It shows how he is 100% not qualified emotionally to hold ANY office, much less the highest on earth.

Nice ignoring the physical attacks against secret service members while trying to personally lead the violent attack against America and the lynching of his own VP.
Good job ignoring him trying to let heavily armed crowds join his rally meant to march to the capitol building….armed to the teeth with everything from bear mace and spears to groups carrying assault weapons wearing tactical body armor.
Nice ignoring that he knew his crowd was heavily armed when he told them to fight hard at the capitol building and don’t let them certify the election (he may have said “don’t let them steal your country” , a distinction without a difference).
Be proud of ignoring all the Republicans who admitted knowing they committed crimes in an attempt to overthrow what they knew undeniably was a certified, fair, secure election by asking for pardons for their crimes they committed for Trump, including Trump’s chief of staff. Put your head in a little farther and you might be able to see out of your own throat.

Covfefe
Oranges of the investigation
Trump is no mental genius….and Biden handed him his ass without even holding rallies.
So….Sleepy Joe doesn’t need to be awake or conscious at all to be a much better president. Is that a compliment to Joe, a swipe at Trump, or both?

PS- kudos for admitting Biden actually is the current POTUS. I know that’s hard for you.

PPS- add to that news of Melania’s absolute refusal (by text, so recorded) to put out a statement calling for a halt to violence…..because they needed that violence and she expected her husband to be leading it.

bobknight33said:

Riveting

Ketchup on the wall, broken plate WOW CNN front page news !!!

POTUS getting mad and making a mess. This is impeachable. This is a serious crime. Brian Stelter is jizzing in his shorts over this wonderful news

Unlike current POTUS Sleepy Joe can't get mad because he can't remember anything.

bobknight33says...

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay / Duds.
When will you wake up?


newtboysaid:

Unsurprising, you cherry pick the one non crime mentioned then say something amounting to “look, that’s not a crime,

newtboysays...

Not the parts that matter, like him screaming to let his armed troopers into his rally to be ready to storm the capitol, because they aren’t there armed to hurt him.
Also not the part about him being apoplectic when they wouldn’t let him go to the capitol to lead the attack.
You will never wake up.

“Do you believe in the peaceful transfer of power?”
“I plead the fifth”- disgraced general Flynn (and every Fascist Trumpist)

bobknight33said:

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay.
When will you wake up?

BSRsays...

I remember when you absolutely, positively declared that T-Rump would win a second term.

You are still in a deep coma.

bobknight33said:

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay / Duds.
When will you wake up?

moonsammysays...

You know, the claims wouldn't have to be "hearsay" if the parties involved (Meadows, Trump) were willing to testify before the committee. After all, if they didn't do anything wrong they shouldn't have anything to hide, right? Isn't that generally one of the right-wing mantras around justice? But Meadows at least has refused to show, and based on Hutchinson's testimony I can understand why - he's clearly up to his neck in actual crimes.

bobknight33said:

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay / Duds.
When will you wake up?

newtboysays...

Such sad nonsense bob.

It’s true, Nobody cares about the clown show….but you forget who the clown is. The CLOWN SHOW is this weak partial denial of sworn testimony in public by the same painted clowns that spent the last 6 years proclaiming publicly that they have zero obligation to tell the truth (and idiots like you cheering the lies even when you admit you know they’re lies), but they are cowering and throwing tantrums in private, even Fox talking heads are having coming to Jesus moments, realizing Trump is not, and never was, qualified to be president and must be prosecuted.

These denials are nothing, until they say them under oath, and they won’t. If they have nothing to hide, why wouldn’t they testify. You’ve said exactly that yourself dozens of times….why does that rule suddenly not apply? Because you never mean a thing you say, that’s why. You are nothing but a delusional gaslighting fool.

Such stupid non defenses. Flailing.

BTW, the pardons requested aren’t hearsay either, traitor. That’s at least 6 or more of the Sedition Caucus wing of the Republican Party admitting knowledge of their guilt of a serious crime they committed on Jan 6….sedition and treason. You don’t get pardons for non criminal acts nor for things you did not do, that’s not a thing, and requests are admissions of guilt.

Heard and Smollett were trending because people compared Giuliani’s blatant lie about being attacked to them lying about being attacked you idiotic treasonous liars. You must be so incredibly desperate to come up with such stupid nonsense. (Btw- Giuliani may actually be prosecuted for filing a false police report! LMFAHS!!)

Such infantile gaslighting constantly. It works ON you because you know nothing and keep yourself intentionally ignorant, it doesn’t work on people who are even a tiny bit informed, you stupid ignorant liar and traitor.

bobknight33said:

8 ‘Bombshells’ from Hutchinson Testimony Are All hearsay / Duds.
When will you wake up?

bobknight33says...

A show trial of 2nd hand accounts.
Even the agents involved denied this ever occurred. Why weren't they called to "testify"

Fools like you are lapping it up like AOC's bath water.

newtboysaid:

Not the parts that matter, like him screaming to let his armed troopers into his rally to be ready to storm the capitol, because they aren’t there armed to hurt him.
Also not the part about him being apoplectic when they wouldn’t let him go to the capitol to lead the attack.
You will never wake up.

“Do you believe in the peaceful transfer of power?”
“I plead the fifth”- disgraced general Flynn (and every Fascist Trumpist)

newtboysays...

Incorrect, as pointed out above. Some second hand accounts of tantrums, and many first hand accounts of criminal activity like knowingly inviting heavily armed thugs into his crowd to prepare for his planned attack of the capitol building and saying Pence deserved to be lynched so Chump wouldn’t make a statement telling his people to stop as his thugs actively hunted the Vice President in the halls of Congress. She witnessed those first hand. I know, you’re just repeating what some liar told you, and you have no first hand knowledge of her or anyone’s actual testimony because you aren’t allowed to watch the hearings….so your arguing over your own second and third hand accounts filtered through biased liars.

Note, the secret service was so in Trump’s camp that Pence refused to get in a car with them because he believed they would murder him or deliver him to the murderous crowd….the one allegedly denying it, Ornato, still works for Trump today (and hasn’t actually denied it, there are just reports claiming he WOULD….and Ornato has been accused of lying for Trump repeatedly including personally telling the blatant lie that Lafayette square wasn’t violently cleared for a Trump photo op at a nearby church….


Get his denial under oath then try again.
Edit: today the story from Trump’s team became “Trump was too fat and out of shape to lunge for the steering wheel.”, which if true made him too fat and out of shape to reach out <3ft, which makes him far too fat, feeble, and near death to be president.

Keep your head up your ass if you wish. You’ll find yourself alone in there.
Why not call them to testify? Because that bit, while salacious, is hardly the main point or even a crime that might be prosecuted, so why waste time on red herrings. I know you wish they would focus on his infantile tantrums, they distract from his treasonous terrorism.

This woman worked 10 ft from Chump. She was a personal assistant for his chief of staff, you would expect her to be about as loyal as they come to be in that high position with direct access to the president ….and his behavior was so intolerable and anti Democratic she tanked her career and personal life to expose it. Do you have any reason why she would lie? There are many reasons why she wouldn’t have testified, including the death threats against her if she did. She’s clearly from team Trump, not an anti or never trumper.

Fools like me, and around 70% of everyone else….everyone not in the cult with full blinders on, and even some who are. Your little world is crumbling, your great leader exposed for the petulant child and treasonous terrorist leader he is, publicly. Fox is running away, republicans are running away, independents are flying away at supersonic speeds.

You would know about drinking bath water. How does Trump’s ass crack taste?

Edit: You know this is the Trump methodology….
1) deny you did “it”
2) equivocate, claim “they do “it””
3) still deny, but insist it would be fine if you had done “it”
4) admit you did “it” just a little
5) revel in the fact that you can now admit you did the evil inexcusable thing and more without your base caring

bobknight33said:

A show trial of 2nd hand accounts.
Even the agents involved denied this ever occurred. Why weren't they called to "testify"

Fools like you are lapping it up like AOC's bath water.

newtboysays...

Let me ask you, why won’t Trump or Meadows testify under oath and contradict her? Hmmmm….. Because they are all too terrified of getting caught lying to testify, her story is the official account.
This young woman has more testicular fortitude than the rest of Trump’s criminal administration combined. Treasonous cowards, both them and those supporting these traitors to America.
Trump’s political career is over, the only question now is will his career as a prisoner begin soon, and will his crime family go with him.

Edit: You do understand that the election fraud fraud was based on second, third, and fourth hand anonymous accounts claimed online, not under oath, yet you and fools like you still believe those lies, right?

bobknight33said:

A show trial of 2nd hand accounts.
Even the agents involved denied this ever occurred. Why weren't they called to "testify"

Fools like you are lapping it up like AOC's bath water.

mramsays...

Actual trials for election conspiracy have all failed. All failed. All of them. There is no conspiracy. Orange man lost. He lost. Actual trials in actual courts of law.

Everything else is smoke and mirrors. ... oh and actual attempts to keep holding on to power that he knew he lost.

America is built on the peaceful transfer of power.
If he knew he won, he didn't need to fight like hell for it.
If he knew he lost, he shouldn't fight like hell for it.
So why fight?

That's at least one crime.

bobknight33said:

A show trial of 2nd hand accounts.

newtboysays...

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA….HAAA…HAAAA…AAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

Corroborated by two secret service agents and discussed between them as early as February 21. D’oh!



Yum, that bath water is made up of Trumpster tears, and damn is it tasty!
ROTFLMFAHS you traitorous loser! Another big “L” in your column. Enjoy!

bobknight33said:

Even the agents involved denied this ever occurred. Why weren't they called to "testify"

Fools like you are lapping it up like AOC's bath water.

bobknight33says...

CNN

Truth news ?????

LMAO

newtboysaid:

AAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA….HAAA…HAAAA…AAAAAAHAHAHAHA!!!

Corroborated by two secret service agents and discussed between them as early as February 21. D’oh!



Yum, that bath water is made up of Trumpster tears, and damn is it tasty!
ROTFLMFAHS you traitorous loser! Another big “L” in your column. Enjoy!

newtboysays...

Um….it’s not a show, nor is it a trial. Derp.

It is about investigating, then handing over evidence for prosecuting, not persecuting those politically opposed to democracy that took actions to end it because they tried to cover up the certified, verified results of the election they lost in a historic landslide to Sleepy Joe. The prosecution comes afterwards, then the persecution.

It’s absolutely about covering up the truth about the 2020 election….it’s about investigating and eventually prosecuting those who tried to do that.

I think it’s funny that investigating Jan 6 is portrayed by the right as going after Trump, but you guys are so dumb you don’t realize that’s admitting Trump was leading the treasonous coup attempt. If investigating the Jan 6 attack is going after Trump, the two must be connected.

Right, CNN reported it, so it must be untrue. So stupidly ignorant, bob. CNN gets it right 197 times for every time your biased sources tell the truth. Not only that, the 2.5% they get wrong they report and offer retractions….without having to be sued for billions to get them to not lie. Not a single right wing propaganda outlet can say the same. Such sad infantile stupidity you show at every opportunity.

I guess you forgot, Trump actually admitted most of her testimony publicly, all the important parts, saying he wanted to go personally lead the attack but his secret service wouldn’t let him. Does the specifics of this tantrum of the dozens we’ve seen him have publicly make any difference? He’s not being charged with attacking them, he’s being charged (eventually) with leading a violent coup to overthrow the government, something you and everyone else knows quite well that he did. Leadership matters!

The Federalist?! Aaaaahahaha!! Truth..nope. News…nope. Try again traitorous loser. The Federalist is poorly written fantasy fiction compared to CNN, which isn’t the only source for this information by far but I knew a CNN report would trigger your stupidity. Mission accomplished.
You, on the other hand, have what to discredit her story? One anonymous claim from someone saying an unnamed someone else might say it didn’t happen? From the far right, racist, factless, conspiracy theory rag…The Federalist!? LMFAHS!! OMFG, you ijit! Bwaaaahahahahaha. Why not just quote Mike Pillow?

What part does the federalist deny anyway (I’m not going to read it). Do they just deny he grabbed the wheel? I would certainly believe his excuse, that he’s too fat and out of shape to grab the wheel, but also that he TRIED to, lunged for it but failed, yes, I believe that, does that change anything? Does that even contradict her testimony? No.
Do they deny he was outraged that they wouldn’t take him to personally lead the attack (and lynching of Pence)? He admitted that on national tv, so it’s too late to deny. D’oh!

More tears, they’re so yummy! Keep ‘em coming!

Just a reminder, Republicans didn’t want a non political investigation, they utterly refused, then they refused to be involved in the bipartisan investigation. The only investigation they were interested in was of Clinton, even in 2021. Now they whine they aren’t involved in the investigation (Trump now complains they should have been a party to it because he wants people inside who can warn his people of subpoenas and warrants so they can flee and destroy evidence).
No crying about it now, you chose to not be represented well on the panel.

bobknight33said:

The January 6 show trial is partly about persecuting political opponents. But it’s also about covering up the truth of the 2020 election.


https://thefederalist.com/2022/07/01/the-j6-show-trial-is-lying-about-election-fraud/

luxintenebrissays...

don't bother w/33's postings anymore. most are just fools' gold.

did watch one of that pinched-face lunker videos some time ago...up to the point where he called others 'idiots' just before he proclaimed Thomas was the first black man on the SCOTUS.

not always fun to see such a self-own. mainly, because none of his hyena pack knew any difference.

a true fool.

so guess that makes bob a fool's fool.

for BK there are two paths; find the courage and admit your errors, or double down on dumb.

Can hear the Dragnet theme from here: dumb, de-dumb-dumb, dummmb

What a fool believes he sees
No wise man has the power
To reason away

newtboysays...

1) not a trial. Sad you just can’t understand or accept that no matter how often it’s pointed out, and telling.

2) only the agents involved denied it, other agents admitted it’s been talked about between agents since Jan 2020. Those two agents, still in Trump’s employ today, and others, are also in big trouble for erasing their text and phone messages and records for the days surrounding the failed coup AFTER being ordered by the courts to preserve them, hardly unbiased or truthful witnesses. Another American institution who’s reputation and trustworthiness have been completely destroyed by Trumpists breaking rules and laws for great great grandad the Ochre ogre.

3) you don’t even know they weren’t called, only not publicly called. They don’t waste time publicly presenting witnesses who can only corroborate non criminal activities. They don’t list the witnesses that testify in secret behind closed doors….for their safety. Rabid Trumpterrorists have made serious death threats against every public witness, some have tried to follow through with them.

Wait….so you want to lap up AOCs bath water? We all know every right wing accusation is an admission….what did you just admit to?

I’m lapping it up, seasoned with con’s tears. So yummy you guys, the tears of unfathomable sadness!

bobknight33said:

A show trial of 2nd hand accounts.
Even the agents involved denied this ever occurred. Why weren't they called to "testify"

Fools like you are lapping it up like AOC's bath water.

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