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( as in Giga Texas) If you were to invest $10 billion and employ 20,000 workers for next 30 years, would you not shop around for the best location, taking into account taxes among other things?

As state would you want make that deal?

If Ca tax is 10% and TX is 5% would this not make one consider?


Land cost , local / state rates? The influx of people to your area would increase your tax base for decades.


If you were a Musk would you not do the same?

Did they offer that in the program, or was it only random individuals….or are you extrapolating, assuming the program became universal? I thought this plan was just for the indigent.

$500 each for 4 works out to more than my wife brought home for 40 hours a week after 15 years at her last job…..barely livable for 4 anywhere in California, a nice income in some states. Not a huge amount to provide for 6 months. How much does temporary housing, services, extra law enforcement, etc cost over that time for 4 people? I assume they’re close.

Yes, universal income is costly, but most on the right won’t consider giving the destitute money if they don’t get a handout too, that likely multiplies the amount by over 10 times. With a means test, it would be billions, maybe under $100 billion. We spent nearly $6 trillion on bad Covid response in 2020, including trillions to corporate welfare handouts with no strings attached and they still fired millions of workers. I think if that’s ok we can afford to invest in making people productive again instead of drains on society (of course, not everyone will benefit, but 75% success must be a win overall). If not, socialize any corporation that took a bailout, we bought em, we should own them.

…Or taking on more debt like every government project, but the increase in gdp from turning costs into profits likely pays for the program without a dime in new taxes, just a reduction in costs of handling the homeless and new taxes from their incomes….especially if you have a means test and not universal income.

Yes, they convoluted by calling it universal income but focusing on homeless. It should be UMI. Universal Minimum Income….under employed get less than unemployed up to a certain minimum livable combined income, fully employed (with living wages) get nothing….IMO. Sadly, a large portion of people can’t see what’s in that plan for them (no homeless, less crime dumbshits) so won’t consider it unless they also get $500 even though that’s not even a noticeable amount to them….one more ivory backscratcher.

They’re volunteers. Volunteers don’t cost much money. They aren’t paid social workers.

Debunked above…..
You know what it does have? Prison time for Republicans who go to senior assisted public housing posing as election workers helping seniors (many non English speaking) update their voting registration (not something needed in Florida), sometimes telling them they need a NEW voting card, but in reality they were secretly changing their party affiliation to Republican and were Republican campaign staffers, this just happened in Miami. Only being changed Democrat to Republican, not being changed Republican to Democrat.

That’s why the right hates this bill. It criminalizes election fraud, and would put thousands (or more) of you in prison and end so many Republican campaigns for fraud that the party would disappear. ALL that fraud you moan and cry about was Republicans defrauding the election, subverting democracy, and pissing on the constitution they wrap themselves in and pretend to love.

Imagine your outrage if Democrats went to your 7th grade graduate father and tricked him into registering Democrat….then came back on Election Day to help with his ballot. Apparently you’re fine with that, or you would support election reform. It’s telling that Republicans are against criminalizing election fraud, isn’t it?

Can we not try to make EVERYTHING “safe” please!?

I would bet half the climbers went for the risk and danger. There are plenty of hikes that are safe…if people want a safe climb, go to one.

Rate the daily danger level, sure, and allow adults to choose their acceptable risk level. Inform visitors that rescue workers will not put themselves in danger to save you, and even list the average cost of a rescue/recovery that you will be billed for. Require liability waivers.

Don’t lowest common denominator nature, you will fail even if you succeed.

@bcglorf
Reading bible passages in class as “something we can all agree on” is the definition of proselytizing to a captive audience….and outside of private religious schools is totally inappropriate.

It’s not “fun” to be ostracized in public because you believe different mythology or are smart enough to ignore all stone aged mythology…..really only disbelieving one more myth than the believers.

Getting the season completely wrong because you don’t know it was chosen to make it easier to use religion as a political tool is a bit different from “the exact date being inaccurate”. It’s an outright, bold faced, well documented lie, created as a political ploy from the 4th century used to degrade and absorb Zoasterism/Mithraism in order to control the masses politically. That is absolutely a “credibility” issue, and if you don’t get it, that’s an education and/or ethics issue. Christianity has many major credibility issues, being “created” (codified) as a political tool is just one of them. Stealing almost every bit of the mythology from previous religions and denying it is another.

Yes, the misuse of Fauci clips out of context is another issue of truthfulness here, but those who are intentionally ignorant of the reality they just lived through are lost and not worth wasting my breath on. As anyone with two brain cells knows, the first, “you don’t need to wear a mask in public” was recommended at that time because a massive mask shortage meant health care workers had to reuse paper masks sometimes for months during a major pandemic, (and clearly they needed priority on the limited supply) not because we had information saying they weren’t useful….but that’s a minor detail of history I feel only brain dead ignoramuses consider in question, relevant, or factual, and they have discarded fact, truth, reason, and logic in favor of their cult of personality….so there’s no real point arguing with them. Just let them get Covid and hope for EIA.

Preaching one religion in a public class room and claiming “we all agree” is a continuation of a much more pernicious, long term, continuing battle for the religious freedom our country was founded on, and I find it outrageous and anti American that you dismiss it as nothing. I can only hope your children’s teachers aren’t a vastly different, contradictory religion than you and they don’t teach your children that everyone agrees with their religion, not yours, and don’t use proveable fallacies to make their point….but if they do I’ll be here to dismiss your concerns.
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Good start, but Is a $2000 fine punishment enough for voting fraudulently at least twice, and blaming political enemies for his crimes? You conveniently ignored the question.
IMO, he should see serious prison time and the fine should be at least 10 times what it is….any fraudulent voter should.

He’s the poster boy for your election fraud fraud. No “mea culpa”? No “I guess maybe we should rethink our claims”? Nope, just some whataboutism over long ago debunked and totally made up nonsense you clearly still believe, gullible rube that you are.

If such a thing had happened, absolutely the state should go after them, not the Trump mob that tried to lynch them and continues to threaten their lives daily, but since this is another moronic, long ago debunked right wing hallucination and fabrication, investigated by the state and found to be ignorant supposition by the right not subversion by the left, that’s a flat no.
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“What you saw – the secret suitcase with magic ballots – were actually ballots that had been packed into those absentee ballot carriers by the workers in the plain view of the monitors and the press,” -Georgia Election System Implementation Manager Gabriel Sterling

Democrats get accused of the crimes Republicans keep getting convicted of….because you morons really hate yourselves, but you aren’t adult enough to admit that so you project. Remember all those attempted cop killings and bombings last summer that outraged you until it became clear they were largely right wing white supremacists shooting police, lighting fires, and setting bombs….then suddenly those crimes weren’t an issue? You’re so transparent.

The fucked-up part is employers will still hire Gen Z (or whatever the fuck they're called) over highly skilled Gen X because employers think that Gen Z are harder workers and not over-entitled and self-important cunts -- which they are.

Also, they can't code for shit, have never heard of Linux, and their entire lives revolve around spending endless amounts of time on Facebook, Instagram, and whatever else is presenting Short Attention Span Theater that day. Skills and experience? Yeah, OK, Boomer.

Ruh roe.
Turns out the Trump campaign paid people to go to the coup, at least 60 of the rioters. That’s not good.
Double ruh roe, turns out they also paid for the “command center” in the Willard hotel that Giuliani and others involved in the planning and instigation of the coup attempt worked from, negating the non existent claim of executive privilege for non government work done by his campaign that is required to be public record in the first place.
Triple ruh roe, the Trump campaign “forgot” to list that expenditure, and the work done by Trump’s campaign workers planning the attack against American democracy…a blatant and unambiguous campaign finance violation.

New felonies coming to light daily as NDAs dissolve and people are finally free to say what they witnessed in the least transparent and most criminal administration in the nation’s history by far. Just look up Trump administration official convictions, you won’t be able to finish it today, it’s too long, and still growing. 11 at the absolute highest level of government convicted of nearly 100 high crimes and misdemeanors, the numbers of lower level officials convicted is likely in the hundreds if not thousands, most charged with multiple crimes.
Or just look up his pardons, every one of which is a conviction for things like stealing tens of millions from “build the wall” donors…stealing from his people….pardoned. Lying to the FBI, pardoned. Working with Russia to undermine American policy before taking office, pardoned. Millions in tax fraud by not reporting millions made working as an unreported foreign agent, pardoned.

The most positive thing Trump did was remove Bush from the “worst president ever” position.

Also, Republicans only won in Tennessee because of voter fraud. He’s not the real governor. Never will be. Tennessee has no governor. Enjoy 4 years of that.
Funny how Republicans insisted there was SO much voter fraud happening in that election…until Youngkin was declared the winner when suddenly there was no fraud at all according to them. Almost like you guys are lying worthless pieces of shit who say anything without a hint of concern as to its veracity.
Also funny how Youngkin refused to have Trump campaign for him at all, never seen together, not even in the state, but of course Trump takes 100% of the credit for his “win”….a win that’s uncertified and fraudulent. You know it’s true.

In related news: Tesla must pay $137 million in discrimination lawsuit

https://money.yahoo.com/tesla-must-pay-ex-worker-137-million-in-discrimination-lawsuit-075729021.html

what utter horse manure. Everyone that is successful must be an exploiter... every worker is downtrodden...

Here in WA state, the ferry workers are going on strike this weekend to whine about having to take a common sense precaution to protect others.

I'd like to see the state pull a Reagan and fire them all.

was gonna post this...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5DEGa0_AAo

...but thought it was appropriate in the discussion.

it's a public safety issue. easy to see if one looks at the actual reality of the situation.

Here are a few of the values listed in the Denver Police Department Operations Manual*...

- Integrity: Faithful performance of our duties and always doing the right thing for the right reason
- Accountability: Demonstrating responsibility in all activities
- Respect: Treating others as we would like to be treated
- Customer Service: Exceeding our customers’ expectations

... so if they ask employees in retail to wear masks, factory workers for drug tests, or a hairdresser to pass hygiene training - it's not a stretch to ask a cop to get a vaccine. their own handbook calls for getting vaccinated.

again, public safety.


Can y̲o̲u̲ respect that?


* http://kpm106.com/LEO/LeoDocs/04-15book.pdf