Gaetz just said on an interview with Semafor when talking about his fellow conservative’s position on the debt ceiling “negotiations”…

”They don’t feel like we should negotiate with our hostage.”

https://youtube.com/shorts/Hg7tYc_Qrhs?feature=share

More proof the debt ceiling crisis is 100% manufactured terroristic “holding the country hostage” to subvert democracy and rule from the minority or destroy the economy, and that the right has no intention of negotiating or compromising their insane position that the right may add 1/3 of all US debt in one term unfettered by any restraints but the left must be so miserly they abandon their own barely funded safety net programs … but not Republican waste and grift like unwanted military programs and other corporate welfare…and absolutely not increase revenue but cut it more or else.

America doesn’t negotiate with hostage taking terrorists. Even “negotiating” invites more of the same. Easy solution to this is…
1)Walk from the fake “negotiations”. 2)unilaterally abolish the debt ceiling by presidential order. 3) Crush Republicans in 24. 4) Legislate a solution and stop the stupidity.

How did 4 years of MAGA bring the US to this!?!

Liar. Every word you write these days is a lie.
Jimmy Dore is not a Sanders supporter. He’s a failed comedian turned Trumpist pundit.

That’s not what the report said by any means. It said one FBI agent slightly misrepresented one email that was a tiny part of the reason for the warrant against Page that ended up finding so much Russian collusion and so many unregistered foreign agents working in the Trump administration, they were convicted.
It did not discount those serious crimes against the United States those officials committed and were convicted of (many them pardoned by Trump).

None of those convictions for administration officials being unregistered foreign agents was a hoax.
That meeting in Trump tower with Russians to trade favors for dirt on Clinton wasn’t a hoax.
That recording of Flynn illegally colluding with Russia on Trumps behalf before Obama was out of office wasn’t a hoax, neither was his conviction for outright lying about all of it under oath because he KNEW it was illegal collusion with a hostile foreign power and knew it was a serious crime he’d been caught committing for Trump….those weren’t hoaxes.
Those dozens of cases of administration officials laundering cash donated by Russians to Trump weren’t hoaxes.

Only the claim that “Russia/Trump is a hoax” is a hoax. 🤦‍♂️

All the Durham report really showed is the Trump DOJ acted wholly inappropriately by acting as Trump’s personal lawyer and PR machine, spreading lies and hiding evidence for him, not acting the nations top cop but actively working against national interests and justice to protect one criminal.

No convictions from Durham, not one. No recommendations, no crimes. More millions wasted on fake culture war nonsense rehashing 5 year old crimes for the sole benefit of criminal himself. Another failed MAGA propaganda attempt they’ve been too stupid and too incompetent to put together, but continue to lie about. A big 5 year old undercooked nothing burger served cold and plain. You enjoy that.

Keep trying bob. All this whining and crying brings me so much joy.
Every time another MAGA “investigation” falls apart, another Victoria’s Secret transexual model gets their wings, unintentionally making MAGA more trans positive that Ru Paul.! 😂

Take your idiotic lies elsewhere, dumbshit. You belong on Toth Senchal where readers anre delusional enough to accept your claims…and daddy Trump needs you there, his numbers are shit.
Or is this a masochism thing…you post this stupidity here because you honestly love being told how idiotic and delusional you are constantly, then having it proven with verifiable facts? Yep, that’s the only rational explanation.

Charged 3 people.. How many were convicted? Oh yea.. zero..

He at least had enough of that facts right in one case to get the person in trouble, but it was such a minor offense (modifying an email that was used along with other evidence to get a warrant to monitor someone) that there were no repurcussions.

Talk about a huge waste of time.

You have no clue how economies work. That’s obvious to everyone.
Every professional economist will tell you clearly, the attempted blackmail using the debt ceiling as a hostage has already cost hundreds of millions or more in lost revenue/investment, and will cost TRILLIONS if our credit rating is lowered significantly, which it will be soon.
How much of that spending was Republican spending (and unprecedented economic losses) from 2019-20?
How much did they/you care in 2017-20? ZERO…that’s how much.

The economy was doing great under Biden until over leveraged banks started failing. It’s still doing well, but could falter. The bank failures are 100% due to thoughtless deregulation by maggots.

“What the Republicans passed is fair even if Democrats dont like it.”
You don’t even know the topic now? “Whatever the maggots passed”…like trillions handed back to billionaires then claiming poverty, claiming millions to feed children bankrupted us, not TRILLIONS TO BILLIONAIRES. (Or do you mean the MAGA brainless budget proposal guaranteed to create a depression, massive unemployment, and doubling or tripling the homeless while bankrupting the nation?). You are such a silly little boy.

What they should have done is repeal the Trump handouts, reinstate reasonable corporate rates (with minimum tax rates so no company and no one making $75k pays zero), that would erase any need to raise the debt, but to your ilk that’s a non starter because those poor billionaires need that money for buying and destroying companies like Twitter.

ROTFLMFAHS!! First, Bush left two wars off those books, then crashed the economy into depression. Obama pulled it out and left the economy healthy and growing. Trump in 4 years, starting with a healthy economy and balanced budget spent as much in 4 years as Obama in 8, raising the spending levels like an rocket and lowered the income of the government by trillions, made gdp a NEGATIVE number, unemployment skyrocketing like never before in history, (and don’t forget over 1 MILLION DEAD Americans and what, 10 million disabled?)

Government has both an income and spending problem…wasting $40 billion on a fence that has INCREASED immigration rates (but refusing to increase border control spending to hire more agents)…wasting $10 billion on a border stunt by Texas that didn’t catch a single smuggler but caused shortages and gridlocks at the border and ports for weeks. Outraged at the idea of staffing the IRS enough to enforce tax laws despite it being guaranteed to make billions in recovered taxes that otherwise go unpaid. Causing billions to be spent protecting government workers and buildings from terrorist maggots and their mobs and death threats and bombs, molotovs, guns, nooses, etc.

Social security isn’t a general fund item, dummy. Cutting it doesn’t put money in the coffer, it merely lowers how much workers pay into their accounts and takes some from those who already paid in.

Bank failures are due to deregulation that allowed over investment without cash reserves so when interest rates went above zero, which was guaranteed to happen sometime, they were guaranteed to lose their shirts. Regulations were put in place to make that 100% illegal after 08, and were removed in 18 guaranteeing a repeat.

Inflation caused by 1/3 of every dollar being created out of thin air under Trump while our GDP tanked. Both caused inflation.

Yeah, sure…Trump caused the crisis, failed to properly address it exacerbating it by a factor of 10, finally started to a hundred days late and billions of dollars short. Biden turned a negative Trump gdp around to positive, fixed the unprecedented high unemployment under Trump, and got Covid under control…but it’s Biden that broke the camel’s back with his 10% contribution, not Trump’s 90%….in fact we should get Trump back and get the ball rolling downhill again. 🤦‍♂️

Blaming both sides (which you are attempting) doesn’t solve the problem. Solving the problem solved the problem, and Biden has solved many problems Trump left behind and solves more every day while Trump gets another indictment for criminally personally benefiting from mismanagement, fraud, thefts, sale of state secrets, covering for murders, vote fraud FOR HIM, etc.

Trying to blame Dark Brandon for the horrific mess Trump left does not solve the problem, it attempts to distract from it with nonsense.

So, you admit it!

Wast= was in the past, the second person singular form of the past tense of "be":
thou wast (= you were)

…and you think yourself a MENSA member! 🤤

Trump WAS the fucking spy…and he could never be on any intelligence anything. None of his children could pass security checks for security clearance because they had ties to hostile foreign governments and were unbelievably stupid…too stupid to know working under the table with Russia to discredit American politicians was wrong. Dumbest president in history.
Trump wast PRESIDENT you ijit, privy to MORE classified and HIGHER SECRECY LEVEL state secrets than they were…and he openly discussed them in public constantly to the HORROR of the entire intelligence community AND our allies that could suddenly not trust America to keep ANY secrets. (And indeed we outed many an allied agent to our enemies under Trump, one entire list sold to Saudi Arabia for $2 billion.). This we KNOW as an absolute FACT since he did so on camera uncountable times.

You have zero evidence Swalwell had ANY unprofessional relationship with Fang. None. Nada. Nunca. Nill. Nien. Null set. NOTHING. As usual you just make shit up and pretend you know something, and as usual you’re making an uneducated hyper biased guess based on you believing Q over proven facts.
And you can’t see why that makes you a ridiculous dumb shit ripe for ridicule.

You also have zero evidence she slept with any Californian, you read the reports wrong as usual, the mayors she slept with were not California mayors.

Do you ever get tired of losing? Ever tire of being called out for being stupidly wrong constantly? Apparently not, you just can’t stop being 100% wrong on 100% of topics. It’s actually impressive.

Trump wast fucking the spy nor was he on the House Intelligence Committee

Chronic wasting disease? One of the symptoms is loss of fear of humans.

You wish….and you apparently fantasize about old man dick?

34 felony counts, and there’s overwhelming evidence of his guilt on all of them.
Then Georgia is another round of felony counts he absolutely committed.
Then the DOJ has espionage charges that aren’t just a nail in his coffin, they’re 30 tons of cement encasing that coffin and sinking it into the Mariana Trench.

Since I know you want to repeat the lie that no one has ever been prosecuted for these non crimes, read these few examples of many.
https://www.justsecurity.org/85605/survey-of-past-new-york-felony-prosecutions-for-falsifying-business-records/

As a bonus, we now know through text records that he tried to delay payment to Daniels until after the election when it wouldn’t matter if she talked and he could never pay, destroying his claim he was just trying to save Melania’s feelings (by committing business and campaign finance fraud), and we know he paid to “catch and kill” the accusation that he had a secret love child with his housekeeper, another campaign expense he intentionally hid through fraudulent business records (and an admission that the accusation is true).

CNN is now righty media after the takeover by hard right wing John Malone last year, which you know….but even they are pretty certain he’s guilty and will be found guilty. You found one right wing talking head that disagrees and think that’s evidence of something? Congratulations….fool. You found nothing.

Wrong, DOJ (aside from Barr) said absolutely there are crimes here by Trump, but they can’t be prosecuted while he’s in office (based on non binding DOJ “rules”, not any law). Exactly like the Mueller report Barr lied about. Again, you know this but lie constantly.

NY DA office was clear there were prosecutable crimes with overwhelming evidence and one person on their way out of office decided to not prosecute and many investigators quit in protest of the unexplainable protection of Trump. His and his family’s finances should absolutely be investigated, I would bet money there’s a large unexplained deposit in the last few years. His elected replacement decided to not bend over backwards to protect Trump, which you call political persecution.

Those nothing burgers are going to end in prison burgers. You said Covid was a “nothing burger”…they sure seem to be bad for your health.

$250 million + spent to “get Clinton” since she was Secretary of State and still zero, but HUNDREDS of convictions against Trump’s administration and hundreds of felony charges in the pipeline or court against Trump personally. Hardly zero, sucker. Keep whining.

Plenty to show…34 felony counts with 1 year MINIMUM per charge….doesn’t sound like nothing. Trump isn’t acting like it’s nothing. He’s terrified,with good cause because he’s clearly guilty of fraud, his entire life has been a fraud.

Love you keep harping on this $60 million number…like it means something.
>$120 million spent on investigating the election for fraud….the 2016 election…no fraud, nothing burger, never released the results. No complaints by you for wasting $120 million on nothing.
>$16 BILLION on a border fence that clearly had zero effect since more immigrants enter now than before it was started, it’s not stopping anyone.
>$250 million investigating Clinton with nothing found, nothing at all to show, zero charges. You want more of that, so your disingenuous whining about $60 million that’s resulted in exposing massive Russian interference in our elections, a blackmail scheme against Ukraine including withholding approved aid to force a politically motivated foreign investigation of political enemies, hundreds of convictions of administration officials for lying about ties to and payments from Russia/China, 34 felony counts of fraud against Trump, and cases for felony election interference and espionage built and with grand juries is blatant outrageous hyperbolic hypocrisy and proof you aren’t a serious adult, you’re a whining infant that’s just screaming nonsense out of gibbering fear and misplaced anger.

I would say you and your ilk need to rethink everything you believe…but that implies you thought in the first place which we all know is not true. You just regurgitate the lies they ejaculated into your gaping mouth.

Such a sad, whining, tantrum throwing little boy you are. You clearly got too many participation trophies like Bohbert which makes you think your wholly uninformed hyper biased opinion has any value. It doesn’t.

You're wasting your time here. You belong in Hollywood! 🎥

Incorrect, you have for years now undeniably (by honest people) been hell bent on exposing all fantasy Democratic fuckery you either made up or believed without evidence… and hell bent on hiding and denying the 99% of anti democratic fuckery that comes from Republicans.

If there are piles, why can’t you find more than one actual case for every 100 I offer you of Republican death destruction and debauchery?

You spend plenty of time and hatred on your silly fact free replies, that’s self evident in your dishonest often racist, allways hateful posts. Pretend you don’t, it only makes you more dishonest. Better, you completely waste your time posting them here where absolutely no one will be fooled, we all know how silly and dishonest you are. I get the benefit of learning a little something every time I debunk some nonsense propaganda you posted.

I have plenty of time, early retirement debt free is nice, but the posts you refer to are simply replies to your hatred and lies. It’s true, I do hate lies and liars, but I don’t spend much time on you. 5 minutes to research and reply while watching TV more often than not. I know the same takes you an hour, usually without the research part. That’s the advantage of actually knowing things. It’s true though, it still takes longer to debunk the fact free stupid lies you spout than it does to spout them….or would if I didn’t think you type at 15 wpm…and I never just disappear when I’m proven wrong (largely because you’ve never proven me wrong about anything salient, but others have and I’m happy to admit it, even thank them).

The economy ALWAYS does better under Democratic control, always worse under Republicans. Laws always become more draconian, more one sided, and more unfairly applied under Republicans. In my lifetime, business always takes precedence over citizen’s rights, health, or even life under Republicans. Your leader actually called for suspending the constitution because he lost the election…and you STILL ridiculously claim Republicans are better. Just absolutely asinine even from a brain dead slug like yourself.

You watch OAN propaganda and believe all of California is skid row, every bit of it, and nothing can convince you differently.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_and_territories_by_GDP

If you can find someone to explain these statistics to you, you’ll see California adds >$93k per person to the economy, N Carolina < $64k per person, and Cali is over 15% of Americans economy, N Carolina 3%. I guess MAGA doesn’t like success.
I live in a state with the biggest, most robust economy in America, that more people want to move to than any other state if they can afford it, where there are services for the indigent and mentally unstable and a >$30 billion SURPLUS last year…more than your state’s entire budget.

Red states are going the wrong direction. Consistently more gun violence, far worse economy, worse unemployment (hardly bad thanks to Biden though), more welfare, more draconian laws, less freedoms, fewer rights. The right has drug their populations down like a lead balloon. You like to point to “democratic cities” but hide when it’s pointed out that states make gun laws and red states are MUCH worse.

You are NOT an independent, bob. Why would you lie such a stupid blatant lie? You are HARD CORE MAGA.
You would want that for your state because having more money and freedom are GOOD THINGS….unless you’re MAGA I guess. Derp.

You certainly repeat what’s made up and spouted on Fox verbatim, far more than once, and you’re always in lock step with them except the blue moon when they tell the truth about Trump. If you don’t watch Fox, how does that happen?
I never watched cable news…that’s your fantasy you made up so you can discard what I say without ever researching it. I sometimes post cable news YouTube videos because they make a certain point well, or have footage I’m looking to post, they aren’t my sources. I research, I read, I watch multiple respected news sources to decide what to look into…but never cable news like all “conservative news*” (*for entertainment purposes only).

Not wasting time or pimping for Democrats, I’m entertaining myself bashing on and triggering know nothing fascists. I would likely be a Republican if only THEY would, but the responsible, honest, honorable, non hypocritical, law respecting, ethical, fiscally sound, champion of clean air and water, worshiper of democracy, believer in and supporter of science “Republican” I was raised to believe in didn’t exist when I was old enough to vote, and they’ve gone down hill on roller skates since Reagan.

Not blinded at all, but I do hate liars, and those that excuse lies from their allies/prophet.

Wait, you WANT me WOKE!?! 🤦‍♂️

The economy is doing far better than expected after the apocalypse Trump left, negative GDP, 15% unemployment, skyrocketing inflation, massively increased debt and deficit….still not healthy but off the life support it needed after Republican rule. It would be much better today if Republicans hadn’t removed established common sense bank regulations in 2018 causing today’s bank failures.

I’m a newtboy, not a sheeple. Learn your animals. 🤨


“There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.”


― Isaac Asimov

I dont watch fox, or any other cable news. Why its all spin and you are spinning in it becoming programmed by all their lies.


Newt You wast all you time pimping for the Democrats.

I feel for you since you are so blinded by hatred,

A useful idiot tool you are.

Someday you might wake up.

Guess you think the economy is doing well also. Sheeple.

Disgraced Trumpist lies about history, science, and his actions/statements.

Morons think this is evidence of something besides Trump’s utterly disastrous covid response, praising China and Xi and completely denying COVID’s dangers, needlessly costing a minimum of 500000 American lives and trillions of dollars wasted according to his own appointees.

What the report she mischaracterized said was genetic studies had PROVEN the virus was not genetically modified or “created” by any known unnatural process, (a conspiracy theory the right tried to float) so the theory that it had been CREATED in a lab was proven false. Banana republicans are too dumb or dishonest to make that clear.

What they also love to ignore is the eradication of our international pandemic response teams that had been stationed in countries world wide including China before Trump closed their offices, and they would have been on scene in September when the first cases were discovered not only to definitively identify the source, but to start efforts to combat it 8 months earlier that the Trump administration did. That could have completely prevented the pandemic, and would have offered the opportunity to properly respond well before it came to America, saving well over a million American lives and up to $16 TRILLION dollars.

Too bad Banana republicans have such selective memories. It make any discussion with them a fight over reality, because they always deny reality and history and think their conspiratorial fantasy holds more weight than scientific facts.

Edit: downvoted into oblivion in under an hour! Good job sift.
This type of history rewriting propaganda has no place anywhere, especially in congress, and should be plucked like a weed and burned with fire every time it pokes itself above ground.
Pedal your silly propaganda on Toth Senchal where it’s not just accepted it’s celebrated.

Ruh-roe….the Durham report on the “Trump-Russia witch hunt” is FINALLY coming to light….remember, the special investigation into the Steele dossier and other whistleblowers that made accusations of Trump criminality…turns out it DID become a criminal investigation just like far right propagandists reported gleefully…but they were claiming falsely it was the whistleblowers and leftist politicians’ criminality…turns out it was actually Trump that was being “investigated” for international bank fraud and money laundering in Italy, but Barr hid the “investigation” and the facts while outright lying to the American people to support and protect Trump, again.

This WAS the investigation into the “weaponization of the federal government” and “RUSSIA-RUSSIA-RUSSIA” collusion “hoax” impeachment Barr started in 2019 that completely failed to find any fraud or hoax, failed to vindicate any of the dozens of Trump administration convicts, failed in prosecuting anyone, and only found criminality from Trump which they covered up and never referred for prosecution.

Now the Republican house intends to waste tens of millions more trying the exact same investigation again because they can’t accept proven fact.

Expect similarly self accusatory results from insurrectionist MAGA morons. The weaponization of the federal government was a Trump administration feature, if they actually look that’s what they’ll find (and try to hide).

Side note- to prove how serious they are about ending corruption, Republicans seated the total fraud and criminal “Santos” on the small business committee that oversees the PPP loan program, a program abused to the tune of billions by mostly right wing “business owners” including some Republican representatives that individually took millions and never paid a dime back but cry we can’t afford school debt relief.

Putting the fraud Santos in charge of this often abused program is 100% proof positive the Republicans plan to defraud it further and steal billions more from the treasury.
But you don’t care, he wears a red tie.