Well said and well said choggie. Fortunately i was able to decipher what you decided to say today.

I think the world's going to hell in a handbasket. Thinking of the world we live in today, i'm thankful for some of the opportunities and benefits that i was granted by the grace of it, but hateful of the rest. A world in which a respectable life-course is to earn money working in an office that deals solely with handling advertising material for companies that sell commodities. I could name other useless vocations that stem from other vocations, and even vocations that stem from the first. "High fashion" - of no practical use to anyone, yet money to be earned. And a magazine that reports on high fashion - a useless job reporting on a useless job, yet money to be earned. What a perfect little rat race we've designed for ourselves, and as long as not too many people protest and try to break it at once, the illusion of progress holds itself steady.

I don't have solutions, and i don't want to hear that what we have now is the best of the available options. I hate it the way it is, and i hate being forced to play that game.

I think the path we chose for ourselves worked up to a point, and then it needed changing for something better for any REAL further "progress" to take place. Right now, we're just going through the motions, a little prison that we made for ourselves that's easy to blame on some imaginary people that pull all the strings. When in actual fact, they don't exist, and we're pulling our own.

I'd love the entire world as a collective to have a Radiohead-Just moment where they all suddenly stop what they're doing, curl up into a ball and go "my god, i've just wasted 30 years of my life in a tiny cubicle entering numbers into a spreedsheet that ultimately has no meaning to humans or humankind".

Neil Armstrong - the most naive words ever spoken - "one giant leap for mankind".. how true we've made those words ring out.

Does this rhetoric even belong under this video's comments?

Are you serious QM?

You honestly think that the government cutting all ties to education would be beneficial to society?

Yes. Free-market schools can do a much better job at half the price. Competition breeds excellence. Let religious or vocational schools compete with schools bereft of faith, values and history but filled with crime and drugs (e.g. government schools).

See how people quickly learn the real value of a dollar spent on education when 90 cents of it isn't wasted on bureaucrats.

"Im [sic] curious, Nibiyabi, what level of education you have ? You dont [sic] sound like you have much."

A compelling argument, to be sure. Well played, sir. By the by, out of curiosity, what "education" taught you that CO2 causes global warming? It certainly wouldn't be taught by any scientifically-minded university professor, so I'm assuming it was a most compelling documentary created by our most recent Nobel Peace Prize winner. I'll take a college education instead, thanks. I hope your education at St. Mary's Vocational Cement Mixing School of Eastern Pawtucket will allow you to follow your dreams. Anyway, to get it through your thick skull, here's a graph that compares global average temperature (red line) to CO2 emissions (blue line):

http://biocab.org/GWMA-002_op_987x740.jpg

Watch as CO2 emissions dramatically soar (hooray, progress!) while global average temperature is left completely unaffected. By the way, the spike in temperature around 1998 (still not as high as the highest point during the Medieval Warming Period) was caused largely by the mass shutdown of thousands upon thousands of old Soviet weather stations when the new government decided (probably correctly) that, given Russia's dire social and economic circumstances, were better left unfunded. Close thousands upon thousands of weather stations in ice-cold Russia and you will get a rise in global average temperature.

Now here's a graph that compares the Sun's surface temperature (white line) to global average temperature (red line):

http://jjprzy.envy.nu/images/SunspotsAndTemp2.jpg

Hmm, bit of a correlation there?

I have a sneaking suspicion that DrPawn won't be making another appearance.

Wow, I'm surprised so many people don't see the actual message here.

College and higher education is just that, higher education. Whether it's vocational or simply intellectual, it's education. Everyday that I pick up my guitar and play, I learn something. Every day I pick up a book and read, I learn something. Every day I talk to someone new, I learn something.

But the question is just that . . . ARE WE LEARNING? In one of my classes, almost everyone has a laptop, but no one is listening to the professor. Why? Facebook and print out of the notes. Are we going to discuss something? No? Why? Because out of the little over 100 students in that SMALL class, there is no time for discussion.

What are we learning in that class? What is the value? The point is to make it a place where that intellectual value you guys are debating about can be seen and felt. Who cares if it's vocational, philosophical, or whatever. The bottom line, WHAT ARE WE LEARNING? If anything . . . .

Well my point is that a university should be a source of personal growth, not a basis of vocational training. We've perverted the purpose of universities altogether. I don't disagree that students should be disappointed with what they are getting out of college for what they're putting into it. Many people who go to these colleges go there because they feel like they don't have a chance to succeed without a college degree and, in some sense, one would be justified in thinking this. But because a obtaining a college education is driven into a younger students head so much, one who wouldn't normally feel they wanted to attend a university of higher learning, is prodded and coaxed, with empty promises, into attending.

Because there is only limited spots in universities this saturation of the education system has caused this inflation of price, less personal attention and an all around lessened experience from what the original intended experience for a university is. I don't know what the answer to the problem is but the problem remains that people actually seeking higher education on a University level, aren't having their expectations met.

It is true that it has become a source of vocational training—and one of the most important ones in our society (where else are you going to achieve a higher education on the arts, the sciences, philosophy, history, social studies, etc?) My point is: don't be there just because "it's what you do". And if you are, don't be surprised that the path hasn't been laid out before you. A student at a University should be itching to break the mold and excel at a subject or multiple subjects. Class sizes too big? Professor doesn't know your name? Use office hours, make an effort to stand out...go above and beyond your tendency for mediocrity—that's what college should be about.

I think most people miss the purpose of a University being a place to come together in a forum for discussion, debate and obtaining world views and knowledge from somebody other than one's family and small circle of influence. Universities were NEVER intended to be used for vocational training. If you don't exploit what a University has to offer as an intellectual, technological or social resource, then you are just wasting your time.

Take this from somebody who wish he hadn't blown the opportunity to go to a University...I see people just dragging through college because "it's what you're supposed to do." It's a shame.

Here's the chords and lyrics for you prospecting musicians
A PIRATE I WAS MEANT TO BE
Capo II

[Am]
We're a band of vicious pirates!
A sailin´ out to sea.
When you hear our gentle singing...
You'll be sure to turn and flee!
[F] [E]
Oh, this is just ridiculous.

Bridge: [F] [C] [E] ×3

[Am]
Come on, men! We've got to recover that map!
[F] [E] [Am] [A7]
That pirate will be done for, when he falls into our trap!
[Dm]
We're a club of tuneful rovers!

We can sing in every clef!
[Am]
We can even hit the high notes!

It's just too bad we're tone deaf!
[E] [F]
A pirate I was meant to be!
[C] [E]
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Bridge: [F] [C] [E] ×3

[Am]
Let's go defeat that evil pirate!
[F] [E] [Am] [A7]
We know he's sure to lose, ´cause we know just where to fire at!

[Dm]
We're thieving balladeers.

A gang of cutthroat mugs.
[Am]
To fight us off ye don't need guns!

Just jolly good ear plugs!

[E] [F]
A pirate I was meant to be!
[C] [E]
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Bridge: [F] [C] [E] ×3

All right, crew, let's get to work!
Our vocation's a thing we love
A thing we'd never shirk!
We'll fight you in the harbor.
We'll battle you on land.
But when you meet singing pirates...
They'll be more than you can stand.
Oh! That was a good one!
No, it wasn't.

No time for song! We've got to move!
The battle will be long,
But our courage we will prove!
We're a pack of scurvy seadogs
Have we pity? Not a dram
We all eat roasted garlic
Then sing from the diaphragm.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Less singing, more sailing.
When we defeat our wicked foe,
His ship he will be bailing!
If ye try ta fight us
You will get a nasty whackin'!
If ya disrespect our singin'
We will feed ya to a kraken!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

I'm getting so sick of you guys and your rhyming.
We're ready to set sail,
though the cannons need a-priming.
We're troublesome corsairs!
And we've come to steal your treasures!
We would shoot you on the downbeat
But we have to rest five measures.

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

Stop! Stop! Stop!
The brass is what we'll polish
And the deck is what we'll mop.

You say you're nasty pirates...
Scheming, thieving, bad bushwhackers?
From what I've seen I tell you
You're not pirates! You're just slackers!

A pirate I was meant to be!
Trim the sails and roam the sea!

We'll surely avoid scurvy if we all eat an orange.
And...!
...um...
Well...
...err...
Door hinge?
No, no...
Guess the song's over, then.
Guess so.
Hokay, back to work.
Well gee.
I feel a little guilty, now...

well i think you made ^that comment because you assume i am "anti atheist" rather than taking the time to realise that i am a contrarian and I wish people would use logic and reasoning to make a point rather than hype and buzzwords and smoke and mirrors.

If a brainworm is an idea, Islam is a brainworm.
But the idea of a brainworm is just an idea. It's just a way of putting it. It can make logical sense but not be true.

When people who have a firm position on something (i.e. atheists or devout believers) come across a theory that sounds coherent, they repeat it ad infinitum in order to make it more "true", because as we all know, repeating a lie makes it the accepted truth.

Within the brainworm theory, i agree, islam is a brainworm.
Within the entire universe I disagree, i think it is the wrong way of looking at things. To me, these evolutionists want to project their evolution theory onto everything, because they only see the world in terms of evolution. Just like religious people only see the world in terms of religion.

I am a designer, and i often fall into the same trap, i think everything is about design. (i mean graphic design, not "intelligent" design).
It's called "vocational prejudice" or something. I genuinely believe the world could be a perfect place if we had more typographers and better architects. Then i realise that i only put so much priority on the importance of design because I AM a designer.

Anyway.

If god is everything, how can god not exist? lol.

Stick with me budzos, i know you vote for unpopular clips that i also vote for so we can't be so opposite as you think.

When I watched this there was a banner ad directly below the video (google ad, I think) which linked to this site. Awesome.

Actually, given the content of the video, I sort of thought the ad might send me to NAMBLA when I clicked it. Not that I want to join NAMBLA or anything. Maybe the South Park version, you know - North American Marlon Brando Look-Alikes. Just need to bulk up a bit first.

*standing ovation on location without vocation tuning in to radio stations shouting profligation to the nation

Sorry, just hate the entire concept. I've seen the "Beez" and the "Ceez" collectively ruin far too many lives to enjoy this.

I would probably approve of a song that goes, "If you blood, keep your damn mouth closed, learn some respect for your fellow man, quit the dumbass club of fools you're in, and partake of some of the free educational and vocational training opportunities that are available to you so that you may stand a chance of giving something back to the community that you are currently hellbent on destroying."

There's an apple/oranges situation here. We funnel absolutely everyone through high school - most countries don't, opting to track lower-level students into vocational training.

I actually think that's probably a better system. But as it is, declaring a state of emergency because many American high school students are slow is like announcing that fine dining is dead because there are alot of McDonald's around.

If whatever you do for a living would have an effect on how you debate, it certainly doesn't show. My vocation certainly had nothing to do with the fact that I just picked yours and quantum's arguments apart with ease.