When asked for comment Willy Wonka suspects Veruca Salt

I don't get how Trump and the GOP say the Democrats need to be willing to negotiate. They are offering $1.6 Billion in additional funding. But Trump is acting like Veruca Salt, and stomping his feet, saying he wants $5.7 Billion, and he wants it now. That's not how negotiations work. You want $5.7, they offer $1.6, you come down to say $4.6, they come back at $2.3, you come back with $4 and permanent residence status for Dreamers, they come back with $3 and permanent resident status, then you meet at $3.5 and permanent resident status. You don't just keep acting like a child throwing a temper tantrum and demanding the $5.7, and if you don't get it, the other side is the one's being unreasonable.

The "Pro-life" party, that loves the death penalty and war, so not really pro-life at all, is now holding millions of Americans (800k, plus their families, plus the millions of people who depend on those services) hostage in an act of economic terrorism, until the other side fully caves into their demands. They are the ones not willing to negotiate, but are doing some 1984 level doublespeak, and blaming it all on the Democrats. And the Fox News types are eating it up, which is probably why Trump thinks he's winning. "Just look. Steve says I'm doing good and that all real Americans support me."

They need to pass a law, that Congress, their aids and staff, the President, their aids and staff, the White House aids and staff... all don't get paid on any shutdown. If they've already given up their salary (I love how Trump followers commend Trump for giving up his salary, while ignoring he makes more a year off the Secret Service than he would in years of salary) then they have to reimburse that salary they would have made in that time. Congress and the President may not take back pay, and it takes a 60% vote to authorize the aids and staff back pay, but only if all other Federal workers also get their back pay first in a separate and prior authorization.

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Really disappointed. I was hoping for this song. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TRTkCHE1sS4 >> ^deathcow:

promote

Oh, I do go see some kids movies...well, I get them from Netflix. But I certainly don't see them all, as a parent of young kids would.

I just find the implication that anyone who didn't recognize this -one- movie is a cultural know-nothing to be a bit offensive and shallow.

In reply to this comment by laura:
Can you Really be forgiven for not recognizing footage from recent kid films? Are you sure? Well, ok, I forgive you too then. You should still drag yourself to one or two kid films a year, at least...they're really trippy these days.

In reply to this comment by Stormsinger:
>> ^shuac:
The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) ...
A bit harsh, no? I think at 51, I can be forgiven for not recognizing footage from a recent "kids" film... I don't have any kids/grandkids to drag me to them.

Can you Really be forgiven for not recognizing footage from recent kid films? Are you sure? Well, ok, I forgive you too then. You should still drag yourself to one or two kid films a year, at least...they're really trippy these days.

In reply to this comment by Stormsinger:
>> ^shuac:
The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) ...
A bit harsh, no? I think at 51, I can be forgiven for not recognizing footage from a recent "kids" film... I don't have any kids/grandkids to drag me to them.

>> ^Stormsinger:
>> ^shuac:
The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) ...
A bit harsh, no? I think at 51, I can be forgiven for not recognizing footage from a recent "kids" film... I don't have any kids/grandkids to drag me to them.


For real. Who has time for the crappy Depp remakes of old movies?

>> ^shuac:
The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) ...
A bit harsh, no? I think at 51, I can be forgiven for not recognizing footage from a recent "kids" film... I don't have any kids/grandkids to drag me to them.

>> ^shuac:
>> ^Playinwithfire:
To Clarify, if it even needed to be, Yes, Veruca Salt IS ALSO a band, as well as the name of the well known materialistic,selfish little shit from Willy Wonka prominently featured in this video. Wasnt aware, this somehow gave the impression the band "Veruca Salt" were the ones doing the PARODY, and they are 2 distinctly different things. So yeah point was, um its funny. The presumption from you though of any ignorance from this "kid" Is far funnier though. Seriously, you think anyones dumb enough to think this sounds like the band in any way? Get over your little judgemental, presumptuous, fact finding self and just enjoy the video for what it is, or heres a novel idea, how about if you felt my description gave the wrong impression, just simply pointing it out to me rather than spew venom? Check that information repository you mentioned, and look up "presumption" Then feel free to school the "kids"
From YouTube... The Band...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHtVvq4I_S0
The Character.. (1971 version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7nG3KvZDA

No, your original video description (before you changed it) read that the song "I Kissed a Girl" was by Veruca Salt. And you know you changed it.
Hey, it's not even really a huge deal, you know? Whatever! It's all good, baby. Was my rebuke over the top? Yep.
But don't knowingly change the incorrect text and then act all indignant. It's beneath you, trust me. Reveal the strength of your character and say, "Oh, yeah...you know I screwed up when I said that song was by Veruca Salt." Or chalk it up to an innocent typo. I'll accept that. But don't change it and then wonder, publicly, how I could possibly glean what I did. Are you a politician? If not, then you may have a bright future. Think about running.


Did I not just say that? Re read... "If my description gave the wrong impression point it out"
Obviously it did, and I corrected the problem, my point was the unnecessary ugliness,and the presumption it was out of ignorance vs a typo. not the correction of the description once mistake was noted. I removed some of the title text when it was posted because it did not fit, and apparently missed the "by" when backspacing. Of course I changed it, why wouldn't I? Again complaint was in the approach and your presumption, not the typo I was happy to correct.

>> ^Playinwithfire:
To Clarify, if it even needed to be, Yes, Veruca Salt IS ALSO a band, as well as the name of the well known materialistic,selfish little shit from Willy Wonka prominently featured in this video. Wasnt aware, this somehow gave the impression the band "Veruca Salt" were the ones doing the PARODY, and they are 2 distinctly different things. So yeah point was, um its funny. The presumption from you though of any ignorance from this "kid" Is far funnier though. Seriously, you think anyones dumb enough to think this sounds like the band in any way? Get over your little judgemental, presumptuous, fact finding self and just enjoy the video for what it is, or heres a novel idea, how about if you felt my description gave the wrong impression, just simply pointing it out to me rather than spew venom? Check that information repository you mentioned, and look up "presumption" Then feel free to school the "kids"
From YouTube... The Band...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHtVvq4I_S0
The Character.. (1971 version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7nG3KvZDA


No, your original video description (before you changed it) read that the song "I Kissed a Girl" was by Veruca Salt. And you know you changed it.

Hey, it's not even really a huge deal, you know? Whatever! It's all good, baby. Was my rebuke over the top? Yep.

But don't knowingly change the incorrect text and then act all indignant. It's beneath you, trust me. Reveal the strength of your character and say, "Oh, yeah...you know I screwed up when I said that song was by Veruca Salt." Or chalk it up to an innocent typo. I'll accept that. But don't change it and then wonder, publicly, how I could possibly glean what I did. Are you a politician? If not, then you may have a bright future. Think about running.

>> ^shuac:
As Kenny Powers would say, "I'm about to fuck you up with some truth."
There were two songs with the title "I Kissed a Girl" and neither of them were by the band Veruca Salt. There was the 1995 tune by Jill Sobule and then the 2008 tune by Katy Perry, which this video is a parody of.
The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) and one of the characters in this movie is named Veruca Salt who happens to be featured in this video prominently.
And let me say for the record: duh. The internet is only the largest information repository known to mankind.

To Clarify, if it even needed to be, Yes, Veruca Salt IS ALSO a band, as well as the name of the well known materialistic,selfish little shit from Willy Wonka prominently featured in this video.
Wasnt aware, this somehow gave the impression the band "Veruca Salt" were the ones doing the PARODY, and they are 2 distinctly different things. So yeah point was, um its funny. The presumption from you though of any ignorance from this "kid" Is far funnier though. Seriously, you think anyones dumb enough to think this sounds like the band in any way? Get over your little judgemental, presumptuous, fact finding self and just enjoy the video for what it is, or heres a novel idea, how about if you felt my description gave the wrong impression, just simply pointing it out to me rather than spew venom? Check that information repository you mentioned, and look up "presumption" Then feel free to school the "kids"

From YouTube... The Band...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHtVvq4I_S0

The Character.. (1971 version)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7nG3KvZDA

As Kenny Powers would say, "I'm about to fuck you up with some truth."

There were two songs with the title "I Kissed a Girl" and neither of them were by the band Veruca Salt. There was the 1995 tune by Jill Sobule and then the 2008 tune by Katy Perry, which this video is a parody of.

The footage in the video is from the Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie with Johnny Depp from a couple years ago (really? do you kids really know that little about the threadbare culture we have?) and one of the characters in this movie is named Veruca Salt who happens to be featured in this video prominently.

And let me say for the record: duh. The internet is only the largest information repository in the history of mankind.

I saw Bush live about 10 years ago, at Cal Expo in Sac (Veruca Salt and some terrible Sweedish band called Souls opened).

Some fuckwit threw a water bottle at Gavin, and hit him square in the face and knocked himout.

Every time I see a show in Sac, some mouthbreather has to throw their shoe or water bottle on stage. If Tool ever comes back to Sac after the November show a few years back, the one where some fucking idiot threw a shoe at Maynard during Eulogy, I'd be thoroughly surprised.

I want a prairie dog. I'm gonna have a Veruca Salt moment if I don't get a goddamn prairie dog NOW!

BTW, wth is a bean feast?