>> ^lantern53:

Is this the DNC convention or the Vagina Monologues?

Sorry, but that's just fucking sad.>> ^lantern53:

But seriously folks, this lady complains all about this country and who has been running it the past 4 years?

Oh, now I see. You didn't watch it at all. "Elizabeth Warren" must be some deeply-embedded trigger term for you GOP-bots to release the stoopid. And lookie what you just did. Mission complete. Aren't you supposed to die now or something, like a salmon?

Is this the DNC convention or the Vagina Monologues?

I miss blankfist. In his honor, I will speak for him and say:

I like turtles.

You all ready to have make up sex yet? All this vagina monologuing is getting boring.

Oh, and dag is an evil oppressive banmaster, whose judgment I trust implicitly (unless he bans someone I like, or me).

Problem?

>> ^blankfist:


But some people like trolling for trolling's sake. Nothing wrong with it, IMO. Bullying, maybe that's different, but everyone has a different perspective on what that is. I've seen firsthand what I think is bullying when you, dft and three or four other likeminded people get together to deconstruct my belief system. And more often than not those conversations turn to attacking me instead of my arguments. I'm called blankfuck, libertard and everything else.

Well, that's why I like your suggested rule so much. If you feel bullied, and want people to stop, ask them to stop. If they persist, we'll send them to bed without supper Videosift.

Likewise, if people feel like you referring to their concerns as a "vagina monologue" is bullying, they should be able to ask you to stop, and if you persist anyways, then it's you going to bed without Videosift.

>> ^blankfist:

But I'm a big boy, and I have to find ways to make peace with that or else leave the site. So, if I do think people are engaging in a super light version of the Stanford Prison Experiment, I tend to say something to them. And that tends to lighten the situation almost immediately.
I like to debate. Often I play too much and it's read as bullying, though if you knew me personally you'd know I'm a huge ball breaker but nothing inside of me is capable of sincere bullying. Not in a genuine mean way.
And it's "draconian" not "dragon". But I like the sound of a clockwork dragon utopia.


I don't think you ever set out to bully people, but I can definitely see how you could come across that way to someone who doesn't know you from Adam. Same with me.

Oh, and I know the difference between draconian and dragon, but I have a creative license, and I'm not afraid to use it! Especially on a word with such a nice Latin root!

Like I said before, I have no desire to see this place become overly burdened with propriety rules, but I also don't want people to feel like they have no recourse but to suck it up, or leave the site when it comes to verbal abuse. We can do better than that.

Hmmm....

Now, is this actually a nasty troll against women?

Kind of. Sort of. Not really, but kinda sorta.

I shall write a little essay on the relative value of words, to explain.

I was in my late teens when the Feminist Movement of the seventies was getting going. This was a time of women reclaiming language.

Women were described as "Miss or Mrs". Men were "Mr", with no designation as to their marital status. Just "Mr". So women came up with "Ms". No indication of marital status. The word was chosen to have an equal "value" to Mr.

We were also struggling with being called "girl" rather than "woman."

I got into many conversations, trying to convince folks that calling a grown woman a "girl" is very insulting. I heard many different reasons why it is okay to call a woman that, and I eventually figured out a logical response to each of those reasons.

It came down to a simple test.

Say something about a woman, calling her a "girl". Now change the gender -- would you say the same thing about man and be able to use the word "boy"? Or does it sound completely insulting to call a man a boy in that situation?

Example:

"I'll have my girl get back to you on that" when meaning your 51-year-old support staff person. Would you say "I'll have my boy get back to you on that." Think you would do it? How about if your support staff person is a black man? Now try it. Really drawl out that "boy", Southern it up big time.

NO. FUCKING. WAY.

If you would not call a black man a "boy", you got no business calling a grown woman a "girl."

It's okay to use girl sometimes, just as it is okay to use boy. "Boys' Night Out." "Girls' Night Out." Equal value phrases. No problem with "girl" if you can substitute "boy" and not feel weird.

So here we have rottenseed's eloquence.

"tits cunts cocks balls"

Nicely balanced, two sexual characteristics for each gender. They aren't the same area of the body, but that is just a reflection of the realities of anatomy. Our stuff is top and bottom, men have their stuff in the same place.

The only thing that sits badly is the word "cunt." That word doesn't have a male equivalent in rottenseed's attempt to be balanced. A truly balanced word would have been something like vay jay jay, or even @Lann's cooter. Cooter is a sweet term.

The word "cunt" has been used too long and too often as a pejorative to dismiss an entire woman as being just a body part, to shame her, to silence her, to reduce her to irrelevance. It wasn't that long ago that you wouldn't even hear or see the word -- it was spelled down to C-Word, and everyone knew what horrible thing had been said. Can't say that is true with the words "cocks" and "balls."

So "cunt" doesn't have a matched value word on the male side of this triumph of eloquence.

Women are starting to reclaim the word "cunt" for themselves, just as Eve Ensler made it okay to say vagina. I know you younger folks might be surprised to know this, but it wasn't that long ago NO ONE EVER said vagina. Penis was okay, but the word vagina was whispered and suggested and disguised (Lann's cooter, for example, it was always referred to with cute nicknames.) That was the beauty of Eve Ensler's Vagina Monologues. She set out to make vagina have the same "value" as penis, and she succeeded, brilliantly.

We haven't managed to reclaim "cunt" yet, but we are sneaking up on it.

So. To maintain the word value balance, just as I have been doing since 1970, I shall edit rottenseed's mature and eloquent tone poem to:

tits cooters cocks balls

TL DR: tits cooters cocks balls



>> ^rottenseed:

tits cunts cocks balls

I like blankie, too, sweetpea. I have seen the man behind the troll. Doesn't mean I won't mix it up with him. The Vagina Monologues thing is a joke. A joke, not a "joke."

It's funny to me how when I do it, it isn't funny. Isn't that funny?

Yeah, the Brainers are crazy. I thought you might be interested in that link for the giggle factor. One guy believing it is nuts, but getting others to join him? That is fascinating!

In reply to this comment by Duckman33:
LOL I'm more interested in things that actually have some possibility of being true. This is just pure lunacy. Oh and on the Vagina Monologues thing. I try not to get involved in Sift politics unless I feel it directly affects or includes me in some way. And I happen like Blanky. I like you as well, but don't want to chose sides on this.

In reply to this comment by bareboards2:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/25/us/25tucson.html?_r=1

Thought you might be interested in the latest conspiracy.

Brainers.

Who think the Arizona Giffords shooting was an exercise by Homeland Security, using local actors.

It's enough to give conspiracy a bad name, isn't it?

http://videosift.com/video/Blankfist-s-Favorite-Vagina-Monologue

We know how you really feel, blank. You love yourself some good vagina.

>> ^blankfist:

"Feminists need their mouths plugged. Penis. Fart. Shabberdabberdoo!"
-George Carlin

>> ^bareboards2:

The trolls are unhappy with me. Boo fucking hoo.
Might this be construed as censorship? Mis-use of Sift rules?
First time I politely asked @blankfist to consider removing a particularly horrible "joke", I got my head danced on big time. I listened, I understood his point of view, and I never asked anyone to take another action on the sift, except in private, where they could refuse or agree in private.
If you don't like it, move on to the next video, rottenseed. Your rules. Not mine.
>> ^rottenseed:
@bareboards2, we here at the sift have a strong no self-posting rule. Please take down this video of your angry (and incredibly boring) vagina, immediately.


borgina boralogues

But you wrote elsewhere you never even listened to it?

Bored via ESP! You are incredibly talented, blankie!


>> ^blankfist:

I love vaginas. I love monologues. I'm bored absolutely silly by vagina monologues. Go figure.

The trolls are unhappy with me. Boo fucking hoo.

Might this be construed as censorship? Mis-use of Sift rules?

First time I politely asked @blankfist to consider removing a particularly horrible "joke", I got my head danced on big time. I listened, I understood his point of view, and I never asked anyone to take another action on the sift, except in private, where they could refuse or agree in private.

If you don't like it, move on to the next video, rottenseed. Your rules. Not mine.

>> ^rottenseed:

@bareboards2, we here at the sift have a strong no self-posting rule. Please take down this video of your angry (and incredibly boring) vagina, immediately.

I love vaginas. I love monologues. I'm bored absolutely silly by vagina monologues. Go figure.

Yeah, he lost his clit in 'Nam. He doesn't like to talk about it. Vaginal orgasms are something he could never achieve. Without the clitoral stimulation, his life is bleak and without meaning. Hot button for Blanky. Hehe, hot.. button.. Heh.

>> ^Issykitty:

I didn't know that blanky had a lame vagina.

A)I stopped paying attention to this thread, I just clicked on it because I wanted to see how that cool troll logo was assigned to it

B) That wasn't a troll, that was a joke. And you don't solicit your jokes after saying (writing) them. That's the equivalent of saying a joke IRL then going "right guys? heh heh"

The joke was ok, but the timing was off. I feel like this thread isn't getting much action anymore. However I encourage you to try out your newly acquired roasting hobby in a more current video/sift-talk. >> ^bareboards2:

Sooooo.. why hasn't my funny funny troll on blankfist gotten any upvotes? @rottenseed? You like a good troll.... where's your upvote?
This is a serious question -- why not a single upvote, guys?
>> ^bareboards2:
And by "ole softie", I am of course referring to your penis.
rimshot
Oh! Except you can't!!
booyah and doublerimshot
>> ^bareboards2:
You stopped yourself because you know it is actually the best vagina monologue EVAR.
You ole softie.
>> ^blankfist:
Worst. Vagina. Mono--
Oh, nevermind.

Actually, I don't even understand the second half of the "zing" Except he can't "what?" There's no adjective verb(edit) in the phrase "You ole softie"

As a side note, here is a fun game my wife and I regularly play. One of us says "Gimmie a 50 (or any number between 0-100)" where the number indicates a percent capacity of punch power. The other person then applies a "50" to the abdomen of the requester. It's hilarious and performed in public regularly with the highest regularity in theme parks where we're waiting in line. Is she pressured into this? No. Is she scared of me? No. She is simply a bad-ass. Maybe the girl in the video is also a bad-ass and enjoys physical abuse when it's funny. She's probably in a dorm, hanging with her friends. This stuff happens, and doesn't really necessitate any sense of pressure unless you want it to

>> ^bareboards2:

Sooooo.. why hasn't my funny funny troll on blankfist gotten any upvotes? @rottenseed? You like a good troll.... where's your upvote?
This is a serious question -- why not a single upvote, guys?
>> ^bareboards2:
And by "ole softie", I am of course referring to your penis.
rimshot
Oh! Except you can't!!
booyah and doublerimshot
>> ^bareboards2:
You stopped yourself because you know it is actually the best vagina monologue EVAR.
You ole softie.
>> ^blankfist:
Worst. Vagina. Mono--
Oh, nevermind.

Sooooo.. why hasn't my funny funny troll on blankfist gotten any upvotes? @rottenseed? You like a good troll.... where's your upvote?

This is a serious question -- why not a single upvote, guys?

>> ^bareboards2:

And by "ole softie", I am of course referring to your penis.
rimshot
Oh! Except you can't!!
booyah and doublerimshot
>> ^bareboards2:
You stopped yourself because you know it is actually the best vagina monologue EVAR.
You ole softie.
>> ^blankfist:
Worst. Vagina. Mono--
Oh, nevermind.