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Jack - Michigan - Republican Voters Against Trump

newtboy says...

I'm not a big Biden fan, it was his turn last election when he gave up his candidacy because he was sad, leaving us with Clinton v Trump, but what you're saying is asinine on a Bobknight33 level.

People who voted for Obama, then voted for Trump because the DNC screwed Sanders out of HIS turn because THEY decided it was Hillary's turn don't have the same issues this time, and know clearly who Trump is now, not just bombastic but massively criminal (most convictions of any administration ever, maybe more than all who came before), petty, ignorant, inept, incompetent (120000+ dead from his incompetence), unpatriotic (let Putin put a hit on our soldiers and does nothing), racist, con man and constant liar. No Bernie bro is voting for him again. No such backstabbing has occurred this time, no DNC party politics, Biden won the primary fairly.
What's your beef?

No matter what, Republicans will blame democrats for Republican failures and take credit for Democratic progress. They always do. They will pile on any Democrat any chance they get, always do. That's not a reason to stick with Republican failure. Jebus Christ. So incredibly lame an argument.

Is that the best you've got, reelect Trump and end America or else some infantile morons will blame Biden for the horrendous Trump administration's failures? The desperation is palpable. Americans for the most part have more brains than that....Trump voters excluded.

It's far more likely that the Republicans are fading into oblivion and losing any majority anywhere. The people won't just forget Trump, the worst president in our history, nor will they forget how every Republican fell in lock step with him (except Romney).

StukaFox said:

Yet the Dems run the most insipid candidate since Dukakis and not because he's the best candidate, but because it's his turn.

The worst part is the DNC is looking at a truly momentous election where they could lay the foundation for a generational political shift in the US the same way Reagan did in 1980, but they utterly fail to understand why some of the same people who voted for Trump in '16 voted for Obama two elections earlier and have decided to play party politics instead.

The worst thing that could happen to the Dems right now is to win this election. The GOP is going to blame them for the wreckage left by Trump, pile on Biden every chance they get, and exploit the DNC's blindness to push the Dems into political oblivion.

Mueller Explains He Was Barred From Charging Don

newtboy says...

Trump's presidency? It certainly is a sham.

No surprise you can't understand plain English. Being in a cult of personality has destroyed your less than stellar brain.
You describe Trump lying under oath as him being smart to not implicate himself but don't realize that means you admit the truth is he's a criminal.

Mueller said exactly what he means, DOJ rules did not allow him to even consider criminal charges, but congress can...here's 400 pages of evidence about multiple high crimes that does not in any way exonerate the president. Congress has a duty to examine and act on that evidence. You hear that as "total exoneration, case closed".

What about the other three scandals that were exposed today? How will you excuse today's undeniable criminality, unpatriotic incivility, and his admission that his presidency is illegitimate?

One, perjury by dozens of official Trumpees about the racist census changes that prove they were designed to give "Republicans and non Hispanic whites an electoral advantage" and hurt the Democrats, and would have that effect according to studies they also hid and lied under oath about. Proof of the racist conspiracy going back to 2015 was uncovered, contradicting their testimony that the order came directly from the DOJ based on questions first raised in 2017. Gonna just wait until 10am to hear the party line in court, then whatever new lie they tell will be your answer I expect.

Two, the constantly shifting denial of the official Whitehouse orders to hide the John McCain and barring of sailors from the ship from events because the Biggest Loser throws a childish temper tantrum when he hears or reads the name. Gonna blame that on a subordinate and deny responsibility for those under him acting incredibly, offensively unpatriotic and disrespecting the military on his behalf in his name purely to stroke his ego...."with good intentions" (keeping Trump's ego unbruised), and just ignore the reason they had to do it too I expect.

Three, the accidental admission that Russia actually got him elected. That you'll call an intentional misunderstanding of a poorly worded tweet by the fake news lefty media not a Freudian slip or confession I expect.

Thanks for the opportunity to shine more light on more daily proof he's illegitimate, unfit for office, and surrounded by unscrupulous and lawless sycophants.

bobknight33 said:

What a sham

What kind of person would say it like this

Muller: “If we had confidence that the president did not commit a crime, we would have said so"

What he really said ..we do not have any evidence to charge Trump.

This was just a ploy to push the ball back in Nancy Policy lap to try to get her to push forward impeachment proceedings.

They Don't Know What To Say!

newtboy says...

Is she really that dumb, or just hoping her audience is?
Hitler wasn't a nationalist because he killed "his own people"?!? She means he deported and killed those people he scapegoated as sub human unpatriotic cretins, rapists and murderers, to help him consolidate and energize his white German nationalist movement?

National Socialism (German: Nationalsozialismus), more commonly known as Nazism (/ˈnɑːtsiɪzəm, ˈnæt-/),[1] is the ideology and practices associated with the Nazi Party – officially the National Socialist German Workers' Party
The term "National Socialism" arose out of attempts to create a nationalist redefinition of "socialism"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

*facepalm

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newtboy says...

You misread. I'm blaming radicals for drinking mountain dew, which hypes them up to the point of being ready for race war. It doesn't make radicals, it energizes them.

Sadly, no. The right has abused and ignored their constitutional duties as a party, handing supreme power to one man over and over while ignoring and actively hiding his multiple crimes and appearances of crimes and actively obstructing the investigations at every turn.....advancing their cause so no investigation should be undertaken, no charges levied, and certainly no punishments for what are real, treasonous felonies....dozens of convictions about subversion....collusion....but you still believe they are the patriots?! You still claim they care about the constitution, as they wipe their asses with it?! Explain.

Come on, Bob, it's ok to admit they aren't perfect and that you don't support at least some of their crimes. I wish you would consider how you would feel if Obama stayed a third term (which Trump hints might be his plan often) and/or bypassed congress to add trillions to the deficit while cutting the military by over half (note, Obama increased military funding consistently, contrary to the lies Fox and Trump tell you).

Democrats want to save the union, granted some of their ideas are poorly thought out, republicans from the top down are itching for a civil war because your side believes the other side isn't armed and will be easy to eradicate.....they're wrong, and totally unpatriotic.

Bob, it's not "one proud American", it's tens of thousands who aren't proud, anyone who MAGAs is saying America isn't great now, and right wingers want to completely reimagine the country as not a melting pot, not a place of refuge, not a place of fairness and opportunities, but a place where rich get richer and the poor pay for it, and where white privilege is codified law, nothing else really seems to matter any more than as a rallying cry, or Republicans would have funded the wall when they had total control.

Um....when republicans step out, it's quite often with a gun or swastika, when democrats do it, it's with an egg or a paper peace sign. Hardly the same thing.

Also, tell that to Senator Stewart Smallie (among others)....he was good enough, he was smart enough, and dog gone it, people liked him, but because of one non G rated joke as a comedian, he resigned....never in million years would republican resign for any such thing, one became president by bragging about actions similar but 100 times worse. Democrats actually hold themselves to their own standards, not Republicans, not anymore, not one tiny bit...

Good people on both sides. Yeah....except good people don't stand with Nazis and white supremacists....EVER.

Edit: again, since you persist in your insistence that the left is worse than the right, I ask you to list the left wing terrorists of late....because we can list quite a few right wing terrorists since Trump was elected, including multiple mass murderers and multiple mail bombers.

bobknight33 said:

Blaming Mountain Dew drinkers as radicals.
Brilliant logic buddy.


Nope. We have folks that believe in the Constitution and see it being ignored by 1/2 people and the Democratic party is right there trying to tear it down. Flaws and all, this is still the greatest country in the world and your side wants to destroy it.

So when 1 proud American snaps, Its understandable, not tolerable and they should be punished.

When your side steps out, all is OK. They are advancing the cause. No punishment should be taken.

Unprecedented Partnership between Fox News and Trump

newtboy says...

NONE!!!! *facepalm
The president has multiple intelligence agencies that give him totally unbiased, non fluff, non sycophantic information, the best information possible in the world using the most expensive high tech equipment and professional intelligence gatherers. He ignores these to listen to a pure political propaganda machine that makes watchers less informed that watching nothing at all, one that's owned by a foreign entity....one who's programming is clearly designed to direct one single person's actions.

Only an unpatriotic moron would even suggest that's ok. You aren't saying that's ok, are you?

Also, when 99% of your actions are infantile and ill advised and designed to benefit you personally while harming millions who can least afford it, 90% negative would be news being overly generous, (50% negative would still make Fox propaganda....and they aren't near 50% negative no matter what some biased blogs from 2017 might claim), if those numbers were correct they would still need to find that hidden >9%.
Fox "reporting" was 99.99999% negative against Obama, and worse for Clinton....they are not news, they are biased opinion masquerading as a news channel and should be removed from the air like Trump threatened to do to media that lies (of course by "lies" he meant negative stories about him, not falsehoods).

The GOP’s Corrupt Bargain with "Reckless," "Erratic" Trump

newtboy says...

Bronte, a Republican Trump appointment

Yates-fired for warning about Flynn's crimes and refusing to implement the illegal Muslim ban, not for legitimate cause, not for malfeasance

Comey- the Republican man who personally handed Trump the presidency by publicly claiming Clinton was still under criminal investigation (she wasn't, and there was no new evidence) and hiding that Trump was under investigation for treasonous behavior with the Russians, a man who Trump praised lavishly until he wouldn't politicize the FBI into Trump's weapon, he deserved far worse than firing.

McCabe- another Republican Trump appointment, fired for working hard on the Trump Russia probe

Rosenstein- another Republican Trump appointee accused of not illegally politically interfering in the Trump Russia probe for Trump, not crime

>1/2 of your swamp clearing was Republican muck brought in by Trump himself. Hilariously you forgot all the other Trump chosen cabinet members removed for criminal actions, convictions not accusations....more than any other administration except Nixon after Watergate....with many more pending.

If you want to clean the swamp, you would vote Democrat, the comparison of criminal convictions by administration is startling.

https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2017/1/11/1619079/-Comparing-Presidential-Administrations-by-Arrests-and-Convictions-A-Warning-for-Trump-Appointees

But in your mind, the only crime is not being an unpatriotic criminal for Trump's personal gain. You should be leading the #derpstate

bobknight33 said:

Cheeto man 2020

The man is doing what he promised.
Swamp cleaning
Boente - Resigned -10/27/17
Yates Fired - 1/30/17
Comey Fired - 5/9/17
McCabe - Fired - 3/16/18
(Stepped Down 1/29/18)

Only Rod Rosenstein left…

And possibly whoever the AAG and DOJ signatores were

Bernstein Promises Bloodshed If Dems Try To Impeach Trump

newtboy says...

Lol. Quote CNN, it's "repeating what lying disgraced fake news CNN says". Don't quote CNN, it's "I don't hear that on CNN".
Anything to be dismissive, eh Bob?
Sorry, I think for myself. I understand that's a foreign concept to you....but you really should try it sometime.

So, you watch a right wing crybaby claim the right is too infantile and unpatriotic to accept a likely legal future, and claim they (you) are going to throw an adult tantrum if you don't get your way, and your answer is "the crybabies are from the left". *facepalm.
Funny, I don't recall those leftist crybabies threatening revolt and armed insurrection when Clinton was investigated unfairly by unambiguously anti Clinton investigators for years on end, then impeached over being a good lawyer with a good vocabulary ("is" doesn't mean "was").

24/7/375 anti Trump reporting, because he's a disaster 24/7/365. It's not propaganda if it's true.

Trump polls dropped to 60% disapproval. Duh.

I agree there...only the fake stories help worried conservatives in their resolve, because only fake stories support Trump. Honest reporting turns adults against Trump.

All the antifa protest, huh? Funny, I haven't heard about them except as a distraction or subject change mentioned by you in some time.
#walk away is not real, Bob, except the part describing conservatives #walkingaway from Trump. Hanging your hat on liberals leaving Democrats and joining Republicans because Democrats are too nasty, are overtly racist, and are hyper supportive of Russia simply isn't going to go well for you.

Bob, you represent what's wrong in America....1/4 of us have lost touch with reality and decided that any fact they don't like can just be dismissed as a lie, no matter how factual it is, and an industry has grown to sell you stories that reinforce that mindset. (No one said Murdoch isn't smart). You are firmly in that willingly self blinded group, still supporting a undeniably disloyal, honorless, petulant fraud and consummate liar and fooling yourself that you're in a majority. 36% (his approval rating) isn't a majority, 60% (his disapproval rating) is.....but unflattering numbers are fake news, right?

bobknight33 said:

Funny I don't see this kind of language your using on any CNN or late night clips .

The Crybaby's are from the left. Day after day night after night doom and gloom and wipers of hope that they finally got dome dirt on Trump. Day after day they end up with egg on their face.

CNN and Lanny Davis -- recent prime example CNN going with the lie -- even after Lanny Davis corrected them-- FAKE CNN

24/7/365 anti trump propaganda and still Trump polls # stay steady.

All the media fake stories about Trump helping Conservative get stronger in their resolve.

All the Antifa protest and hard left stories just are just turning liberals away from the democrat party.

Democrat represent everything wrong with America.

McCain defending Obama 2008

newtboy says...

Yep...that seems like a bit of 'please don't throw me in that briar patch, Br'er Fox.' imo. If he could get banned for outrageously disgusting, intentionally provocative, unpatriotic, but technically allowed comments, it seems it would verify to him that liberals (which he believes we all are here) are all poised to censor and silence any voice that disagrees.
I prefer to allow the ugliness of the right to show itself publicly, hiding it does nothing to oppose it and only let's it fester, hidden safely in the dark.

It is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you will not be imperiled in a hundred battles; if you do not know your enemies but do know yourself, you will win one and lose one; if you do not know your enemies nor yourself, you will be imperiled in every single battle.
I prefer the former to the latter two options.

The problem is, much of that awful stuff contradicts the other awful stuff and none of it is consistent. If he genuinely believes it all, there's something seriously wrong. The only belief I can pin down is that belief is fluid and constantly changing, and anything goes if it supports the cause/talking points of the day.

ChaosEngine said:

It’s funny that, aside from bob himself, no one has proposed (or even mentioned prior to this thread) banning him.

Personally, I think he’d love to be banned. It would fit his martyr complex perfectly.

I agree with you here. I don’t think he’s a troll; I think he genuinely believes the awful stuff he says.

The Mueller Investigation Is Not A Witch Hunt

newtboy says...

As usual, you're absolutely wrong on all counts.

Manafort was convicted of repeatedly committing felonious frauds with the express purpose of hiding his massive financial ties to Russia and hide the fact that he is a foreign agent working for them and has been for years if not decades.

Paying out of your pocket to women to not say anything in order to help your campaign for president, which Trump did repeatedly (according to his personal lawyer who has released tapes of them discussing it) without disclosing it as a campaign contribution is absolutely a crime, as is making a personal contribution in those amounts.

Lying about it can also be a crime, which is part of why he cannot testify. He knows he'll also be asked about them and all the other women he's screwed and paid, and he doesn't know what they can prove, so has no idea which lie to tell. He also cannot testify about his finances without admitting many more felonious frauds. No blue dress needed when you're talking about an admitted criminal fraud and consummate liar like Trump, and btw, making a blue dress dirty wasn't a crime either....hiding it and lying about it under oath was....and Trump lies 3 times per sentence. He will never survive any interview under oath....he just isn't capable of honesty.

These are high crimes, felonies, not even misdemeanors. If Clinton had 1/10 the ties to Russia you would call her a Putin stooge and be calling for her head, and you know it. If her administration had 1/10 the convictions you would be frothing at the mouth for impeachment and be irate there was any obstruction to the special council or delay in getting her testimony, and claiming the convictions were absolute proof of her guilt. The smoking gun will be found, huh.....now that the multiple decades of investigations are over and she's been cleared of any crimes, and there's no accusations of actual criminal activity forthcoming (if you say pizzagate I'm going to assume you're actually mentally deficient and stop talking to you)...NOW the smoking gun will be found. *facepalm

If there's a log of smolder and smoke on the Clintons, there's a blast furnace on Trump. His entire upper echelon is either convicted of high crimes against the state, fired, both, or at odds with him for unpresidential actions and for trying to politicize the justice system like a despot. So much for his "I have the best people" lie, eh?

You are so blatantly hypocritical it would be funny, if only there weren't tens of thousands of you willing to say any kind of ignorant nonsense if you think it distracts from the overtly and undeniably criminal administration you support. That's pretty damn unpatriotic of y'all.

bobknight33 said:

Unrelated to Russian collusion or campaign fiance.

Paying $ out of you own pocket to women to not say anything is not a chime.

Low level stuff of unimportant main stream media drama.

Michael Jackson - Billie Jean ( cover by Donald Trump )

newtboy says...

Lol....yeah, you get your news from Twitter, Facebook, and Trump himself and I'm the one who buys the lies. No surprise you and the walk away people won't admit it, you've never admitted to being duped even though it's a daily occurrence. Funny they didn't disavow these memes until well after they were debunked, and they still claim the spread through conservative media is somehow proof of a mass exodus from the Democrats, even though every example they have is either stock photos or well known long term conservative activists and most retweets are Russian bots.

BTW, not from MSM......https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/walkaway-campaign-stock-photos/
And
https://videosift.com/video/Stephen-Examines-The-Conservative-Walk-Away-Memes

You're doing the Russian's work for them, trying to hand America to Putin. I expect you to respond "that's better than a liberal".

Edit: The funniest part here is there is a huge walk away movement happening....lifelong Republicans walking away from the Republican party because some are intelligent enough to see it's been co opted by unpatriotic morons who seem intent on dissolving our system of government and international standing in favor of Russia, who they still remember is our enemy, not NATO.
Oops, looks like you bought more Russian lies.....Again.

bobknight33 said:

Oops. Looks like you bought the msm lies.

Pussy Riots in World Cup Finals 2018 game.

vil says...

For people who have some form of freedom its difficult to understand how important freedom is. For people living in Russia this must look like unpatriotic showboating. I am not sure pussy riot has enough of an audience to matter.

A Closer Look: Trump's Michigan Rally Goes Off the Rails

Phooz says...

This is the downfall of The United States... if you don't agree with us you're fake news... if you don't agree with us you're unpatriotic... if you don't agree with us you're unchristian... if you don't agree with us etc. etc. etc..... we're the best you're the worst... we're the smartest, you're the dumbest...

It's all talk with no actions...

Chris Hedges On F On Fascism In The Age Of Trump (Nov. 2017)

newtboy jokingly says...

Then you don't think it's time to turn against Bannon just because he now admits publicly that the numerous 2016 meetings with Russians and Trump's sons and son in law were unpatriotic and treasonous? Clearly he must be an anti Trump libtard who knows nothing about behind the scenes meetings angry over losing the election....oh....wait....

Hard to think Trump has "only the best people" anymore, isn't it? Seems he has only the worst people so far, with so many convicted of crimes against the nation while serving his administration, and many others thrown out for utter incompetence.

bobknight33 said:

I did not "blindly support the bankrupting idiot baby"....

Lt Gen Silveria Addresses Racism Incident at USAFA School

newtboy jokingly says...

This so called general should be fired for this unpatriotic, disrespectful insertion of his personal politics at his job, on camera. Protest this imaginary racism at home on your own time.

eric3579 said:

That is how you lead. Refreshing considering what we are use to seeing as so called leadership.

Arnold Schwarzenegger Has A Blunt Message For Nazis

JustSaying says...

Am I my father's keeper?
How the fuck can anyone bear responsibility for anything that happened before their birth? If you're not around to even form an opinion, you can't bear any responsibility.
That said, even if you're around, there's a reason we consider children and adults to be very different when it comes to responsibility.
Therefore it wouldn't matter if Arnold mentions it or not. He spoke his mind and said clearly what he thought. It doesn't matter what his Daddy would've thought or who he was. The Nazis of today are the problem, not the ones who are dead.
And of course, those who are unpatriotic enough to sympathize with Nazis, like your PotUS, Mr. Trump. A proven racist. A traitor to the american people.

bobknight33 said:

Exactly.. But if he did mention it he would add another dimension of condemnation to the Unit the White party.

That being said I am glad you agree the sins of the father stops at the father.. You do agree to that correct? Lord help me if I'm wrong seeing how much of a leftest nut you are. Answer?



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