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Well, they have done an excellent job gaslighting truth, common sense, and reality. Opting for fascism instead of the democratic idealism. Replacing freedom with oppression. It's a LOT.

“ my solution would be every able bodied Jewish man and woman join the French (or Polish, Russian, British) army and fucking fight…”

I agree that’s the noble thing to do, but I can’t condemn the ones that choose to seek safety in numbers with Jewish Palestinians as exclusively invasion minded aggressors. My 6 million tag was maybe a bit sharp, but you also know that the Nazi’s took Paris and as much as it sucked to be French or European under Nazi occupation, you also know adding Jewish to that carried a lot of extra consequence and danger to your family.

My POV is agnostic of everything save Isreali people today having a right exist as a nation. Which at this point from my POV leaves 1947 as somewhat academic.

It’s your insistence that Jewish people, and the existence of Israel, have always fundamentally been invaders that I was objecting to as it is so intensely at odds with factual history.

You gave a brief nod on not being a scholar of Palestinian history, but then proceed to just count all Jewish refugees as good as Zionist aggressors from day 1(or close enough), and the local Arab population as nothing but pure, kind caring victims of these invaders.

I will state again, that is ahistorical propaganda and NOT what actually happened. And for my POV, its enough generations back as to be Academic, but for your POV it is fundamental because without being able to writeoff Israel as invaders from day 1, nuance enters the calculus and suddenly the conflict is flooded with shades of grey because lots of parties all contribute to the bloodshed, and many with reasonable motivations from both sides yet too.

Please find me any reputable sources to refute the reality of 1920-1940s Palestine:
-Mass Jewish immigration fleeing European oppression raised tensions between Jewish and Arab Palestinians.(as one must expect)
-Arab palestinians were already chaffing and resisting British colonial rule(as one must expect)
-These tensions led conflict, initially more ‘civil’ with the Arab majority trying to refuse all business, sales and trade with all Jews.
-Escalation followed throughout that time, but in drips and drops and NOT a ‘surprise the Zionist army has arrived’! style of aggression

The violent escalation was a fight here, a beating there. Little individual fights, escalating into deaths. Retaliations slowly grew, with each side exchanging small escalations.

-the culmination of this was eventually all out civil war, and the Jewish side immediately accepting a UN mandated 2 state solution

-this culmination coinciding with the end of WW2 and revelations of the true extent of the holocaust can’t be ignored, it certainly shaped the Jewish mindset in the conflict.

-Their mindset was pretty clearly not inaccurate either, as the immediate response of all neighbouring Arab nations was a declaration of war on the new ‘state’, with bold claims of how quickly the Jews would be swept into the sea. The confidence was so high, a call was sent it for ALL Arab palestinians to abandon and flee the entire region of Palestine to better enable the complete cleansing of the land.

The above is all pretty much inarguably factual, and I’d bargain you could get an Arabic and Israeli scholar together to more or less agree on those facts which is saying alot.

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Propaganda from both sides would like to declare that the Arabs harboured deep Nazi sympathies, and thus Israel was pure and true in all it did. Or from the other side, more or less your narrative of Zionist bad guys launching invasion from day 1(ish).

Both though are just sprinklings of half truths, with anti-British resentment naturally breeding some leanings towards the axis, and even genuine Nazi cleanse the Jews believers. And absolutely Zionists featured prominently within the Jewish population. Neither of those partial truths though make the propaganda of either side true, but instead just an incomplete and intentionally biased picture.


Again, please find me sources demonstrating I’m terribly wrong on all that, but the only ones I can find are clearly biased and the accurate accounts paint the picture above, the propaganda very, very clearly copies the real story more or less with just deletions of inconvenient bits

Jesus you’re a moron.

You’re also 100% wrong….as usual.

Maybe don’t get your news from Tyler Durden (He’s the anarchist terrorist nutjob from Fight Club you idiot)…and maybe learn to read.
None of what you claim is in the article you linked.
Every detail you got wrong.

No election was overturned.
The primary is being rerun because of possible interference, no ballot harvesting was proven. The ACCUSATION was ballot stuffing, not harvesting…and it also wasn’t proven.

The person accused of ballot stuffing didn’t win the primary…so you’re wrong on that point too. WTF you brain dead slug?!?
That said, those caught appearing to submit multiple ballots to ballot boxes (something a family member, a police officer, an ELECTION OFFICIAL or a caretaker may do, so may be no crime at all) need to be investigated and prosecuted to the fullest extent to determine IF there was a crime, and if so given the max sentence…right after all the Republicans caught cheating in 2020 and 22 are.

Cheating democrats lose every time…look at Clinton…democrats don’t like cheaters. Only cheating republicans win, not honorable candidates, cheating by ballot harvesting, ballot stuffing, voter roll purging, gerrymandering, double voting (like Trump famously and publicly instructed Republicans to do in 2020), threats of physical violence, actual physical violence, etc, and they are protected by your party of criminals like you just protected MAGA fraud Santos from expulsion for being a total 100% fraud in every way possible AND a fugitive AND an illegal alien (there’s no way he legally immigrated while he was a legal fugitive from Brazil)…repugnacans (repugnant republicans) like yourself think only morons follow rules and the law or tell the truth if it doesn’t benefit them, even when under oath.


In your state it was proven that the Republican filled out thousands of registration cards with his office as the address, and voted using those ballots. He also had staff collect thousands of ballots from nursing homes and fill out any race not voted on for republicans. He’s just one of dozens of republican candidates that were caught cheating elections.

Also….it’s without…not with out.

Oh shit!! Sydney Powell has pleaded guilty to election interference and 6 other charges and agreed to testify against Trump this morning. So now the main architect of the fake elector scheme admits they illegally tried to steal the presidency through multiple frauds directed by Trump himself.

Her trial started tomorrow. She must now testify fully and truthfully or she’s going away for decades.

She has the goods, she was instrumental in multiple election fraud schemes for Trump and has the evidence. This is what’s known as a “death knell” (you probably say “death knell”) for Trump and all his codefendents. They should have taken the plea deal for probation like she did…now that offer is likely off the table, they’ve got the #1 perp who has all the evidence, they don’t need the little fish now, or Trump…they can go away for decades now. 😂

EDIT: Trump changed his tune now saying “I’m willing to go to prison to bring democracy back to our country” apparently not realizing he’s admitting he and MAGA are the biggest threat to democracy our nation has ever known. It also ignores that he’s taking tens of millions from his cultists fighting his inescapable future of going to prison to help repair our democracy. He’s at least finally come to the realization that he will spend his final days in a cage….now you just need to realize it.

But yeah…all from reading cereal boxes, so just pretend it isn’t happening.

Bonus- Huckabee Sanders’ “lecterngate” scandal is getting bigger. Now, on top of stealing $19000 for a girls trip and covering it up with a fake lectern purchase, she’s also caught red handed attempting to change public records in a felonious attempt to falsely claim the GOP was reimbursing the state (but emails proved that it was changed well after the theft was discovered.)
There’s also now a bipartisan investigation into anything her back room changes to FOIA covered up, because it’s now clear even to Republicans that she was just hiding her own theft and criminality by removing government transparency.

She’s likely going to be removed from office and charged, just more MAGA criminality.

😂 100% projection, little Bobby.. 😂

I give you vetted legitimate professional sources, they aren’t random internet trolls broadcasting nonsense from daddy’s basement. Yours always are these random idiots that made a talk show in daddy’s basement that get 100% of their “information “ from Trump’s lying mouth or the toilet (hard to tell the difference). Never once have you provided a rational or legitimate source of information, you don’t know them when you see them. The closest you’ve ever come was Fox, and even you now say they’re completely full of shit since they once reported on Trump and Jan 6 honestly.

Cereal boxes don’t often report on the verified daily court failures of a disgraced failure of an ex president, Bobby. If you could read, you might know that.

Please, oh PLEASE…tell me exactly what I’m wrong about. Be specific. I ABSOLUTELY KNOW FOR CERTAIN YOU WON’T ANSWER THIS, BECAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW ANYTHING I SAID IS WRONG, JUST THAT IT DISTURBS YOU HEARING THE TRUTH ABOUT YOUR CRIMINAL MESSIAH.

Today’s Republicans are lessor.
Less educated. Less moral. No ethics. Less truthfulness. Less humanity.
The educated, moral, and ethical Republicans have all left the party, it’s nothing more than idiotic cultists today, all crooks like Santos or proud racists like your last nominee for speaker who says he’s “David Duke without the baggage” and has gone to speak with the KKK and other racist organizations as a friend to them.

Your leader is a rapist who thinks he won one election against Obama, thinks Jeb Bush was president, thinks Biden might get us into WW2, and pretends he doesn’t understand that going to court to lower his appraisal value for taxes, under oath swearing they’re worth far less than the appraised value, then valuing his properties at 30000% of their appraised value under oath when applying for loans is a crime. That’s all just in the last week.

Biden and Fetterman are both totally lucid, rational, and grounded in reality despite one having a slight speech impediment….they both are insanely greater than dementia Don with his lumpy full diapers handing over top secret military classified documents to try and make a friend….for nothing more than a billionaires company, that billionaire then put the nuclear submarine specifications online for our enemies. He should be shot 20 times for that, it’s absolutely treason with no excuse.

😂 Hunter, not Joe. 😂
Sucker. That’s the best you’ve got? Quit now in shame. Hunter isn’t a politician, Trump is.

“Tool and Propagandist” Says the guy who still unflinchingly supports a serial rapist, pedophile, convicted charity thief who stole from the needy including disabled vets to the extent he’s permanently barred from any involvement with any charities, and repeated multiple million dollar fraud and thief who tried to foment a coup and sold classified state secrets, even repeatedly handing top secret highly classified military secrets to foreign powers, sometimes for cash and sometimes for nothing more than attention. 😂
I don’t post ridiculous fantasy propaganda claiming it’s news, then pretend I never did that when invariably it’s proven to be nonsense slander you made up or intentionally “misunderstood” and just refuse to acknowledge you’ve ever been wrong when, in fact, you’ve almost never been correct, not even a little bit. I provide statistics, facts, and reliable references where those facts and numbers come from, you offer at your best random internet trolls making up nonsense to trigger your hatred of the “other”…also called propaganda.

Yes, Hunter had a drug problem 5-7 years ago after his brother died…and he went broke…this is not news, it never was.

Trump has a current rape problem, a lying (slander) problem, multiple felony bank and tax fraud problems, felony business fraud problems, serious treason problems, election fraud problems, Trump also pays for sex (WAY more than Hunter ever did and every time he gets some) and is also broke….but Hunter isn’t running for public office.

If Hunter could access the fund (and I’m not saying he did, you are not a credible source of information, and you don’t use credible sources), it wasn’t hers.
My parents set up a trust they (and I) couldn’t access, good thing too, I would have had nothing by the time I went. Parents raiding their children’s college fund is not abnormal, especially in Trump’s economy when this allegedly happened.
Hunter’s children can go to any college they are accepted at thanks to Joe.

It seems you have no evidence of what he did with it if he took it, just guesses. Maybe he gave it to her mother for safe keeping. Maybe he spent it on her. You don’t know, in fact you don’t know if any of this is true. Your sources simply aren’t a bit credible.

I guess you’ve abandoned the utterly ridiculous lie about him being paid billions by the Chinese and Ukrainians, because there’s not a person in history that could survive $2 billion in crack and hookers, and he wouldn’t have had a low balance if they had. Another of your dumb lies destroyed by the next even dumber lie. 😂

Your story is Hunter told his bankers to liquidate what they can and he loves them both? 😂

Funny you don’t want to talk about Trump running away from court like a coward instead of standing up to the judge and prosecutors like he swore he would, or dropping his dumb lawsuits that will still cost him millions like a coward because he’s terrified of being deposed and knew he would come off looking like a criminal idiot.
Funny you don’t want to discuss him getting tossed from the Forbes richest men list because he’s actually in debt and his net worth was always nothing but self reported lies 2000%-10000% contradicted by what he reported on his taxes, there was never a scintilla of truth to his financial status, never.
Funny you don’t want to discuss the fraudulent loans he took, sometimes from criminal elements or hostile powers, always under fraudulent statements of his net worth or his collateral’s value.
Funny you don’t want to discuss the thousands of contractors he ripped off, never paid, and often drove into bankruptcy by not paying his bills, or their children who didn’t have a college fund because Trump stole the money. 😂

You really need to stop the “Hunter” stupidity. No matter what he’s done, he’s not running for office so it’s meaningless and is only a good opportunity to compare his problems with Trump’s abject criminality and disgustingly abusive sexual behavior including repeatedly paying porn stars for sex while married, lusting after his young teenage daughter publicly, sexually abusing young teenaged contestants at his beauty competition, and treating all others with distain and hatred if they aren’t groveling at his feet, even those he hired.

To remind @bobknight33 in a place where he can’t erase it and pretend he doesn’t know what a baby criminal his MAGA daddy is, Trump, coward that he is, walked away from two retaliatory lawsuits today, one against Cohen for revealing the payoff to a porn star to hide his affair and humiliating sexual performance because he was absolutely terrified of being deposed by someone who knows his secrets, and the other against the judge hearing his NY fraud case Judge Engoron, and then he ran away in shame after saying he would show up in court every day to stand up to the judge and DA, but instead fled to Florida after 2 1/2 days of grumbling in his seat. 😂
Trump claims he will refile against Cohen after he wins his criminal cases, so never. Cohen will be filing if he hasn’t already to recover maybe millions for defending the frivolous lawsuit and he will win.

Trump was tossed off the Forbes richest Americans list, citing a $650 million loss on Toth Senchal, the closure of all of his New York businesses, and the absurdity of accepting his own valuations for his properties like $650 million to $1.5 billion for Maralago he himself said wasn’t worth $20 million last year in court in an effort to try to avoid taxes. Truth is he may be exceedingly deep in debt well beyond the true value of his holdings…in debt to hostile foreign powers and criminal organizations.

Republicans have finally realized rules they put in place make him ineligible for speaker…you might think they would have looked into that before floating the idea but no. You people are so inept and incompetent.

Again he’s been exposed showing top secret highest classification level military secrets to foreigners for no reason beyond braggadocio. This time exposing nuclear submarine specs including payloads and stealth capabilities to an Australian who instantly told everyone he knew and some he didn’t…making the military secrets public knowledge. That’s treason…you know the penalty for treason, don’t you? String him up! 😂

Big daddy T is having a very bad really terrible day/week/month/year. Couldn’t happen to a more deserving person.

😂 😂 😂 😂
Oh poor Bobby, that one must have hurt for you to erase it off your page so quickly. Hilarious it’s still a top 5 comment but gone because you can’t stand the truth.
Poor baby. Bad man make Bobby cwy hurt. 😂

Now even CNN spinning Truth-- What is going on. Oh they dont want Biden to run in 20204 because he has become a Joke.

Only a government mole would say such a thing hoping to embarrass or shame people out of telling the truth!

What you don’t realize is we already know….moles (and gophers) also aren’t real, having been replaced worldwide by government controlled bioengineered cyborg rodents after 9-11 to keep track of may-be-terrorists who already know how to successfully avoid surveillance by “birds”.

Nice try…we’re on to you little fuzzy buddy.