>> ^peggedbea:
anyhow, its always good to flush your body of toxins

I upvoted your comment/post. But I don't agree that it's necessarily good to have a medical intervention to "flush your body of toxins" rather than letting the natural processes play out. I'm not about to go on dialysis to help flush out my toxins when I'm perfectly healthy. I realize that's an exaggerated parallel and that this massage is probably harmless, but I'd like to see some peer-reviewed studies on the matter. You've made an appeal that massage therapy is not junk science, and controlled, randomized, double blind, peer-reviewed trials are the way to prove that.

I realize that the "blind" part of such trials would be difficult in this case, but you can still have it single blind with a proxy intervention that is known to be worthless. Say you're treating them with magnets but actually do nothing.

manual lymph drainage is, as well as massage therapy, is considered more "alternative medicine" or "complimentary medicine" which is growing more widely accepted by western medicine... im also trained as a mammography tech and my hospital hosts monthly "complimentary medicine" seminars for employees. there are of course contraindications, such as chemo or if youre on a heavy dose of antibiotics, massage therapist are trained to know such contraindications and how to safely deal with them and this video assumes you are a healthy human being.

there is alot of nonsense spewed under the title of alternative medicine; light therapy, color therapy, rieki, quantum touch, etc. it gives us all a bad name as far im concerned. massage theory (minus all the vibrational medicince nonsense) is rooted in an understanding of physiology. im concerned with how the muscles, and all the cells and systems within your body function and work together. manual lymph drainage is alot of common sense. though i cant find any sort of major medical literature about it online. chiropractors will attest to it. however, many people consider them questionable medical professionals as well. i know several oncologists and oncology nurses who believe in its benefits. and cancer treatment centers who will prescribe it.

anyhow, its always good to flush your body of toxins, and lymphnodes are where toxins live.

massage has also proven to reduce scar tissue and improve muscle tone and circulation, breast massage is great post cosmetic breast surgery.

oh, furthermore, my current theory for why the mainstream medical community is reluctant to fully embrace massage therapy is because of all the nonsense "bodywork" junk that is not rooted in the science of physiology. and for a long time it has been more profitable to prescribe medication and treat the symptom rather than to prescribe prevention and treat the human.... thats slowly changing.

>> ^spoco2:
I'm upvoting because it has caused me to look up lymphatic drainage.
And it would seem to be something that is always talked about with the terms "which is believed by proponents" and "according to proponents".
So, therefore does not seem to have core medical backup with it.
Also, it seems that it may actually be dangerous in cases where a patient has cancer as you may be pushing the cancer cells through the body rather than them possibly being killed off by the lymph nodes. And also, it would seem, if you're getting chemo, it might be a bad idea as it pushes it through too quickly.
Or something.
I tend to like seeing a real medical practitioner come out with 'yeah, it works' or 'as far as has been ascertained it's at least harmless'.
So... yeah.
Plus it looks like she's trying to twist her boob off.
Oh... and they are spectacular.

Yes, MG. This is definitely an area for a lot of people to be rightly pissed. As well as same-sex marriage, DADT, neocon-style stance with Israel, and other issues where I greatly disagree with him.

But I, as well as everyone else I know who supported, organized, donated, and voted for him, knew these things as much as two years ago. And not one time did I ever meet a supporter who thought of him as "the messiah" or that he was perfect. Only his most ardent opponents tried to pin that nonsense on us.

What most of us thought was here is a guy who we agree with on a lot more than we've ever had in our lifetimes, and someone who holds a lot more honesty and progressive policies than I expected from a candidate in 2008. And almost definitely a guy who wouldn't start an illegal war with a country that posed no harm to us or our allies, wouldn't rape our treasure and our constitution. And wouldn't allow our rivers, lakes and air to be poisoned by the toxins of the highest bidder.

And as you may have noticed, the netroots have already lashed out at him over some of his cabinet picks, his Rick Warren invitation, and his no-show on Prop-8. We've already been holding his feet to the fire, and will continue to do so.


So trust us, we've got this covered. The "lefties" will never be the suckers that the right has been these last two decades. We don't believe in Reagan's 11th commandment. If and When Barack fucks up, we'll be the first to scream about it.

That's awesome. I love how he extracts common resources and puts back beneficial elements to the environment rather than toxins and pollution. And byproducts are inevitably some other energy source he can tap into.

I firmly believe this is the future of mankind. We cannot continue with our conventional polluting and inefficient powerplants. The only way we can survive as a race is by giving something back when we take from the environment. Big ups to that guy.

>> ^imstellar28:
Education isn't a commodity like milk, because it has varying levels of quality. However, the analogy with milk is still valid. I can sustain myself in many ways--be it mcdonalds, frozen dinners, milk, vegetables, fruit, or gold-laced packages of caviar. To force an education on me which is more or less expensive, or of higher or lower quality than I would have chosen is economically inefficient.

Ahh, see, that's the problem. I don't want to force you to buy something more expensive, I want to force everyone to pay "their share", and get everyone something as close to gold-laced caviar as I can. People like Bill Gates will pay a lot, people like me will pay a moderate amount, and people who're scraping by pay nothing.

Bill Gates and I are both still capable of spending additional money, out of our after-tax income to buy fancier platinum-laced caviar from an exotic fish, but it doesn't excuse us from our responsibility to others.

You don't make everyone eat the same food, or live in the same size house, so why would you make everyone learn the same way?

I wouldn't, within reason. I'd do my best to make it impossible for people to choose diseased or spoiled food, indigestible items, toxins, and some forms of particularly unhealthy foods (trans-fats, say).

Dropping the metaphor, I think gifted children, children with mental disorders, children from broken homes and "average" children all need different environments -- and while I think parents should be driving that choice, I don't think the costs should be the determining factor.

If I can teach my children with online video lectures, .pdf class notes, and electronic text books--why would you deny me this cost-saving option?

...because they're only cost-saving if you already own a computer and internet connection. If the cost of providing that, plus the license fee for electronic books is cheaper than buying the printed book, I'd happily make it mandatory.

Bureaucracies get a bum rap, but there's no reason they can't be organized in such a way that they encourage cost-savings, or even decentralized cost-savings (e.g. only the "gifted" school uses them). Corporations are able to do this at least some of the time.

Likewise, if I aspire to be a manual laborer--say a carpenter--because it runs in my family--why would you force me to achieve a higher level of education than is economically relevant? If I want to be a doctor, why are you sending me through economics, calculus, and chemistry? Shouldn't I be free to learn these things on my own time--and focus on advancing the skills relevant to my career?

As a student, I often said "I know I want to be a programmer, why do I have to learn history?"

What do you think my teacher said to me? "Because the damned Department of Education forces us, at gunpoint, to teach you things we know will be irrelevant to your life?"

There's a value to educating people in a broad range of subjects, because it makes them more well-rounded individuals, and you never know what might come in handy in your life.

They might even change their mind about carpentry, and decide they want to be a doctor.

It is true you have less "dollar-votes" than Bill Gates, but do you think Bill Gates is going to be buying that much more milk than a typical family? Or that many more loaves of bread? He will be spending money--perhaps on luxury items which you wouldn't buy anyways--

That's why I'm happy to take a big share of his income in taxes...

but he will also be investing the largest portion of his income in small business--like the grocer, shoemaker, or car salesman who just opened business in your neighborhood. That is because all those millions of his dollars aren't just sitting in his closet--they are in a bank, which is giving out loans to business owners like your neighbor, or maybe even yourself.

Sure, but why should he get to choose not to help pay for the education of the people in his community/state/nation? He benefited from it, and benefits from the labors of those educated employees he hires, or those educated entrepreneurs he loans money to.

Doesn't he have a debt to society, since society has given him so much?

There is no such thing as a community. Can you go outside and touch the community? Can you tell me where it is, or what it is currently doing? The community is an illusion--the only thing that exists is the individual. It is individuals that make up the community, and to forsake the individual for the sake of the community is to lose all bearing of what really exists.

I can't touch happiness either...or libertarianism.

Here's the real separation of our beliefs: you hold the individual supreme, I hold the good of society supreme.

There are many different "societies" or "communities" to choose from, families, neighborhoods, nations, book clubs, sports teams, political activist groups, armies, gangs, companies, online communities, etc., but I think people are most moral when they put the needs of the group above their own.

That's why I so happily support judicious trampling of "individual rights" when I think it's truly for the good of the whole (though I don't think "the right to never pay taxes" is really a "right"). I think certain individual rights are vital to the functioning society (e.g. freedom of speech, freedom of religion, habeas corpus, protection from illegal search & seizure, etc.), but I think certain restrictions of behavior, above and beyond the libertarian triumvirate of stealing life, stealing money, and breaking contracts are vital too.

In the case of schooling, I think it's a vital part of society, and we all have an obligation to provide for it, whether we "choose" to or not.

Blankfist:

Is it really "stupid" to want to keep christianism and creationism out of our public schools?

Is it really "stupid" to want to keep public schools integrated?

Is it really "stupid" to want to prevent corporations from abusing their workforce, or dumping their toxins into our water and air?


And you can seriously piss right off with your retarded notion of "you need the state to teach your kids". That type of attitude has zero bearing on our society, and I am glad your ilk are as marginalized as you will always be.


Jeffersonian ideas weren't only about self-reliance. They were also about the seperation of church and state. "States rights" would kill that idea, and that is exactly what Ron Paul would love to see.

>> ^BillOreilly:
McCain handled himself very well, and said exactly what needed to be said.
All you potheads need to grow up and look at yourselves in the mirror, and make some changes.

Of course he said what he needed to say. He's a fucking puppet. That's fine if studies show that marijuana is harmful to your own body. So are cigarettes. So is alcohol. Fuck...so is driving. But these are all legal. Why isn't marijuana?
A) Because cigarettes, alcohol and other legal drugs and pharmaceuticals are taxed
B) Because there is such a stigma to marijuana that a candidate open on the issue of legalizing marijuana is committing political suicide.

In a perfect world there would be actual testing on marijuana. Barring there's no negative long term effects (other than the inhalation of carcinogens and toxins), there should be no reason marijuana should be illegal.

Here's an update for anyone who might be interested. Maceo's BUN and creatinine levels are down. What does that mean, you ask? Well, it means his toxins are lowering and he's gaining his strength. He looked ready to come home tonight.

I'm constantly saying to the idgits who parrot the idea of some band-aid for the health care system in the US..... this Obama (scary motherfucker), in serious tone, spewing what the uninformed mob-monkeys want to hear, blah blah blah...

America eats shit. Her citizens can't afford, and the nation can't afford, the kind of health care nightmare that comes with her diet-sick, dying, killing themselves with food-fuck universal health care-only for people that teach heir children to, and who themselves become healthy, by taking the toxins out of their diets completely......But first, destroy the purveyors of the shit making it not so lazily available.....replace conv. stores with vegetable coops-soda pops with the juices of the hundreds of fruit trees the govt. subsidies, are used to plant alla Ladybird Johnson style, above the fatted plains....

3 day work week, wage-slavery becomes a thing of the past-people have time to educate themselves, fuck more, and play more.

My "I have a dream" speech would include many radical changes to the National psyche....and a wholesale bitch-slapping for all the motherfuckers, who have systematically dumbed-down this place in the last 75-100 years......

seems that those particles are traveling at a high rate of velocity and the distance is staggering. I've often seen skies of this magnitude when light is exposed to certain elements..Could this be toxins from lead paint or any other burning chemical that is legal in China?

all drunk on snake mayo....and immune to all manner of toxins- honey badger tattoo.....!

Just for some perspective, the FDA's limit on mercury in drinking water is 0.002 mcg/ml (2 parts per billion by mass, or 0.18 parts per billion by moles), which is less than 1/1,000 of the level detected in the blood of dentists in this video IIRC. It's the kind of environmental toxin that bioconcentrates up the food chain because it accumulates in the body.

Part of the reason Norway and Sweden banned dental amalgam was because they did a study that found it is the source of a large percentage of the mercury in their sewage system. One man's sewage system empties into another man's fishery (the Ocean). It's better that the mercury remain sequestered underground than continue to pollute the Ocean. Continuously dumping mercury-contaminated sewage into the ocean for the next 4 billion years is not good policy. Mercury levels in the ocean are concentrated via the food chain. One fish eats many smaller fishes, and much of the mercury they contain is retained, so each level of the food chain has like 100 times the mercury level of the next lower level. (That's why you should never eat shark, btw. They're many steps up the food chain the original microscopic plankton, through multiple paths of various lengths)

“It looked like a classic controlled demolition, said Mike Taylor of the National Association of Demolitions Contractors in Doylestown, Pa.

“If there’s any good thing about this it’ that the towers tended not to weaken to one side, “said Taylor. “They could have tipped onto the other buildings…”
The collapse of the WTC Towers mirrored the strategy use by demolitions experts. In controlled demolitions, explosives are placed not just on the lowest three floors but on several consecutive floors..the explosions at the higher floors enable the collapse to gain downward momentum as gravity pulls the full weight of unsupported higher floors down into lower floors ion a snowballing effect.
It cascaded down like an implosion” Says Taylor.

-New Scientist, 12 Sept. 2001


Analysis of dust samples
heavy Metals
Murcury
Asbestos
the cocktail was extremely alkaline +/-15)


The government (EPA) assured no health risks-(falsehoods, lies)
The NIST ruled out controlled demo as a possibility and DID NOT INVESTIGAT based on this premise....

7 yrs later, and nobody gives a fiddlers fuck enough to re-open the case and leave it to public scrutiny??? Even if we could, too late to prove anything based on evidence, which has all nut been conveniently destroyed.

People are still dying from the toxins they breathed in that day.

returned to this post to see hwo chime in-
As always, JAPR showing the ass.....

Teflon can be bad for you too, just cooking with it near birds can kill them (they happen to be hyper sensitive to the toxins). From what I understand, when you use Teflon you should cook at lower heats (I have no idea of the limits in degrees) and you shouldn't cook every meal with it.

For baking I've always been partial to glass, its hard to stain and can be cleaned with a plastic scourer. Anything stubborn just needs to soak for 30 minutes then it'll come off with ease.

EDIT: Seems I was beat to the punch on the Glass suggestion by a minute.

I've made that same comment before as a joke, but the reality of the situation is that global warming isn't about the temperature outside your window at any given time. Shifts of even a couple of degrees from established norms in certain areas of the globe can have serious implications to the natural processes that occur there.

Think about homeostasis in your body, we're endothermic which means our body temperature remains the same because for us to function properly at the basest levels we need to remain at about 98.6F. If you were to shift that temperature several degrees up or down, like when you have a fever of 103F, you feel horrible and sick. Imagine it weren't a transient virus or bacterial infection, but a permanent state caused by abusing your body over the years. I don't know how long the human body could last at a permanent feverish state, but it certainly wouldn't be pleasant.

The science about the effect of carbon dioxide and other pollutants has been proven in the laboratory, there's no denying that if you pump the atmosphere full of it, heat has a much harder time escaping; simple greenhouse effect. Think about the amount the human race pumps out every minute of every day and then think about what possible effect that might have in 100 years from now. You might be dead, but somebody is going to have to pay for it. Nobody is saying there will be "The Day After Tomorrow" apocalyptic events (that's just shock value for entertainment), but crank the heat up a few degrees and you'll have major climate changes, rising sea levels, changes in rain fall and deserts forming where there were none, etc. etc., and then what will we do? Guaranteed, the cost in manpower and material to cope with those kinds of events over time will be far greater than the immediate short term cost of tightening our belts, learning to live without being grossly excessive, and developing new technologies to reduce our impact.

We're making changes to this planet that it has never gone through. There's absolutely nothing natural about the path humanity is following and the high impact technologies we've developed over the last 200 years. On the grand scale, we're behaving like bacteria, multiplying in exponentially greater numbers each year, consuming natural resources and excreting toxins... what happens when a human body is completely overrun by bacteria? They die. Is it so hard to believe that if we shit all over our planet without a care in the world, it won't begin to die as well? Then where does that leave us?

Just think about it.