Turning? Ezra Levant has always been just a tad Bill O'Reilly-ish.

Edit: Misunderstood your comment. I thought you were saying Ezra Levant was turning into bobknight when you were aiming that at enoch. I hope that was at least somewhat tongue in cheek. While we often complain about Americans not paying attention to Canada, I hardly expect them to be at all aware of Ezra Levant and the fact that he works for Canada's equivalent of Fox News. And who cares, all Canadians left, right, or centre (see what I did there) should be outraged at the prosecution of this case. And what makes appearances worse is that the CC who prosecuted this case was a women which makes me wonder if she had her own agenda, I hope not.

Retro edit for victory! Yup, that's "TOTALLY OUTSIDE THE FRAME OF YOUR DUMB COMMENTS EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME".

* "DUMB EVERYWHERE ALL THE TIME" = "tongue in cheek".

Feel free to be specific, and not just coy and vague. Which parts were intended as 'tongue in cheek' - was it linking to right wing activist blogs? I am truthfully and honestly unsure, because we don't know each other - for some people, quoting CHS would be a joke, similar to quoting Anne Coulter, and for others it's a valid source. I still don't know which, if either, opinion you hold.

Trust me, I will happily and heartily chuckle at your wry, irascible tongue in cheek wit, if you can tell me which parts you thought you were being tongue in cheek about, and what your serious arguments are.

As to whether Christina Hoff Sommers is a feminist or not, I would guess that it's not as easy as just calling yourself a feminist. I can call myself a conservative, but the evidence is against me: I never vote conservative, I typically espouse progressive views, and I usually criticize flaws in conservative thought and policy, comparing it unfavorably to progressive thought. I think a reasonable person would have to say that I'm either being disingenuous if I call myself a conservative, or that I'm very very bad at it.

I don't get to decide what CHS calls herself, but as a rational person I have to look at her argument and see if it's based in feminism or in something entirely different, and make up my own mind about it regardless of labels.

As for the rest, I'm not sure, again, which parts you say are just straw manning it up and which parts we agree on. I thought we had some disagreements but you might have been tongue in cheek about all of it, for all I know.

For example, I thought we were in agreement on this: "so the situation is not some cut and dried situation,and there are extreme elements of any social movement,but those elements should not invalidate the message" - so I didn't comment on that part. It makes sense to me, and unless you were being tongue in cheek, we're in agreement.

I thought we came to an agreement (?) on the prevalence of rape and the need to look at the whole picture, but also agreed (?) that there are several other disheartening factors at work in the so-called justice system.

I thought, however, that we disagreed about your entire first point (both about how making discrimination illegal should eliminate the wage gaps, and about how no serious economists cite it). This is where I thought CHS was a poor rebuttal - regardless of her right wing activism, she's certainly not an economist; she's a philosopher by education, and not a particularly credible source on the economy. Again, if you were being tongue in cheek when quoting her I'll just erase that part and assume that we agree.

As for contradictory evidence, I can't swear that I'll be influenced by it, and I certainly won't accept it uncritically - we all have a hard time breaking down our own biases. But I'll happily and gratefully read it, as I assume you will too.

Yep, and then I'll melt them with my laser eyes.

Really not that weird that you're a US citizen; you share your countrymen's inability to realise when someone is being tongue in cheek.

The "they're all liars" statement was meant as a throwaway, tongue in cheek comment. I apologise if that wasn't clear. For the record, I agree with you re: Sanders.

Not sure what you're referring to with "it doesn't matter". Are you confusing my reply with someone else's?

Congratulations, you've managed to recognise an obviously tongue-in-cheek comment by applying basic reading skills. Oh no, wait... you didn't.

You want credible sources?

Here ya go:
correlation of gun ownership with suicide and homocide
How right-to-carry impacts the crime rate (hint: it's not good)

Understand, I don't want to ban guns. I have friends who hunt and shoot a lot, (I've done it myself a few times and quite frankly, shooting is fun).

The problem is that it's simply way too easy to get a gun in the US. You know why you have "armed thugs" breaking into your house? BECAUSE EVERYONE HAS A FUCKING GUN. In other 1st world countries, most break-ins are unarmed, because as Jim said, most people just want your TV.

Now, it may be that the ship has sailed in the U.S. because you failed to do anything about this for so long. But it would absolutely make sense to make it just a bit more difficult for anyone to have access to a gun.

http://videosift.com/video/Black-Man-Vs-White-Man-Carrying-AR-15-Legally#comment-1872048
...damn. this comment is sooo unbelievably succinct, Lantern, it hurts..

Do you realize what this comment implies?

Did you forget to check that /Sarcasm box?

No?

Because I find it EXCEEDINGLY difficult to believe that YOU, @lantern53, genuinely ACTUALLY care to investigate the close ties between racism & Law Enforcement/"Criminal Justice"?

Ironic cause yer a cop. /s [see tongue in cheek.]

You don't care one bit about the suffering of "others" who you can't relate with.

You live inside a happy little bubble that protects you from dealing with "other people's problems"..

Get it?

You know good and well racism is ever-present.

You've even admitted more or less in your recent comments to me "racist isn't ending anytime soon, so get over it Genji"

You know exactly how police "became institutionally racist", Lantern.

You're a police officer, and yet you disparage black people & culture repeatedly & intentionally as in the manner/style that a racist or white supremacist, etc would.

You see the same events, unfairness, racism, abuse of authority, etc. etc. etc

You just choose to ignore that reality, because it doesn't match up with your little fox news bubble.

"I've got boot straps! Why don't you just use yours?!"
Lantern said to the Shoeless man..

Hence why you NeoCon-artists [see, it's like when you say Lib-tards. hokey, isn't it.] are ruining the country.

So, when you can't refute the points of fact I made, you just make pithy comments? Got it.

I stated an opinion. There's no hubris there. Jesus, I even qualified it with phrases like "I see no reason" and "I don't believe".

"I see no reason for Texas to secede, so I don't believe it's warranted"

does not equate to

"there can be no possible reason Texas should ever secede, and I am the arbiter of whether it should or not"

If you can provide me with a legitimate reason for Texas to secede, I'd consider changing my opinion. Right now, the only arguments I've heard for Texas to secede have been essentially thinly-veiled racism and right wing propaganda.

And we haven't even touched on the fact that the vast majority of Texans don't actually want to secede

edit: just in case you didn't realise from the or the fact that I flat out stated it to @newtboy, my original post was tongue-in-cheek

I'm assuming this guy is the Prime Example of someone who should never have children. Not only is he off base with much of this, just the plain fact that these are the thoughts he has, labels him as someone not fit to mentor children.

And yes, I understand that much of this is shock, trolling and tongue-in-cheek humor but he is weaving some personal insights and bias in there as well.

you are alright my man.
hope you didnt find my tongue and cheek response too dickish.
i was going for irreverant rather than douche,but as per usual,you arise to the occasion and prove why i have so much respect for you.

stay awesome bud!

i'm pretty sure we've never seen ninja be himself. he's known as a satirist and a performance artist as well so i'm quite sure there is loads of tongues in cheeks with die antwoord. i'm not necessarily a fan but i can def. appreciate the quality of their extremely cheeky and cheesey music (hyper machismo personalities and lyrics mixed with all of the chaviest rave sounds and s. african interpretations of electrobass) and their videos, which are some of the best music videos coming out right now.

love them or hate them, they're different and at least somewhat interesting.

I know, why not give moderating powers wholly to the sifters who swing the lowest-hanging sack of hollow, worm-ravaged nuts inhabiting the most struggling of fruit-bearing trees in the orchard at any-given-time as an homage to all insect species of the entire planet? That's an easy-out and it saves on the effort and drain of pesticide costs, yeah??

This said in the spirit of tongue-in-cheek, powers to play here commensurate with efforts to enhance and expand the video content rather than involvement lopsidedly focused upon popping-spit and clicking up or down (as always, more down please) would be best bestowed quickly to keep the rabble form thinking too fondly of themselves..The preceding message is to most of you "P's" who chime-in incessantly, frequent the place, but contribute very little eye-soul-essence candy.

We love you anyhow, go find some cool shit for us to watch why dontchas??

Who are you? Anyways my problem is good people all over the place get killed, often in horrible ways. You wanna improve you or your families lives in the wrong area of the world, you get two to the back of the head in an alley. Live in the wrong neighborhood, driveby, you die in the street waiting 20 minutes for the ambulance. Black and resisting arrest, you get shot in the back and cuffed while the cop that flees to another state gets dragged back and doesn't serve time.

So all this horrible shit happens to good people in the world. Why can't something horrible happen to this guy? My comment was a bit tongue and cheek and sometimes I just like to shout. Honestly though I would LOVE to see one day someone with a fucked up opinion in America get killed in the most brutal way imaginable. Someone who isn't black and doesn't think it's right for the state to treat them like second class citizens. Someone who has had every advantage in life and is pissed off for no appreciable reason at all.

Everyone get's to complain, some get killed. I'd like to see just one, JUST FUCKING ONE guy who's shitty opinion everyone doesn't like get it fucking good.

@bcglorf of course I wasn't seriously suggesting that. Did you miss the smiley to denote "the above is tongue in cheek"?

What I was doing was highlighting the ridiculousness of your argument that you can simply declare "tribal" pakistan a separate state.

Besides whether I think arizona and pakistan are comparable is irrelevant, I have no drones. But the USA have established this precedent, they will have no moral defence against it when someone who doesn't like them eventually gets their hands on drone tech. They can "declare war in all but name:" on the USA and strike civilian targets to get at people they feel mean them harm.