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Mike Tyson vs. Canadian Reporter

dannym3141 says...

"Some people would say" -- does not necessarily indicate future tense.
I would say (see?) it is often used to more politely present a point.
Other people would say (again..) that he is referring to what people might say to tyson if they were present in the interview, and so he is saying what they would say if they were present.

For all any of us knows, two or three people asked him to ask the question and he's completely accurate and right. As i already stated, i'm interested in that question even if you aren't, so he's completely right in his statement, other people WOULD say that. Me - and probably others. Though you don't address any of that in your reply.

I don't understand what you mean in your first paragraph about the public - i never said that you had interviewed them nor that you should (??). What we are discussing is the value of mike tyson's endorsement, and an endorsement is for the listeners, the public. So what i am referring to is the viewing public of a TV show on which mike tyson has appeared and offered his personal endorsement to.

In fact, you specifically said that he has a duty of care to his audience to explain his sources, so it seemed to me that your primary concern was the public's full understanding of the interview... is that not the case? I think you may have contradicted yourself here - i asked you what that duty of care was, and that's a hard question to answer without referring to the "public thought". Perhaps that's why you didn't bother addressing it in your reply. I'm doing my best to keep the discussion going, but i don't understand what this paragraph refers to or what it means.

Finally the legal battle that you linked to me. As i already reminded you, we are not his judges and it is not a courtroom, so it is utterly irrelevant to the case. Furthermore, the world is bigger than one country and this is an international website with a plethora of opinions. In exchange i'd like you to read the introductory paragraph about protection of sources which finishes with several particular comments about the united states, and one addressed directly about the US - the land of the free and home of the exiled whistle-blowers. Please remember as you read that this refers to a legal setting, and really has nothing to do with the example in this video about which you incorrectly assert that he has a duty to expose his sources. Which you still have not made clear. However i wanted to make clear that i think protection of sources is imperative to combating corruption which is absolutely rife in this day and age of illegal wars, illegal detention, worldwide spying and tracking of individuals by the NSA and Great Britain's intelligence agencies, expenses scandals, etc.

You haven't answered even half of the questions i posed to you in my first comment, i'm all ears. Or eyes. Whatever.

MrFisk said:

I never said anything about what the public thought, because I never interviewed them and, quite frankly, I don't care.

My issue is the reporter predicted the future.

"Some people said ... ." (past tense, showing action happened)
"Some people are saying ... ." (present tense, but isn't all present tense past tense by default?)
"Some people would say ... ." (future tense)

And I don't think journalists should predict the future, even if they don't attribute their sources. Good journalists report the facts, which means they're limited to reporting on events that have already happened, not what would or could or will potentially happen.

And as for protecting sources (real, or even imaginary):
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/us/james-risen-faces-jail-time-for-refusing-to-identify-a-confidential-source.html

Mike Tyson vs. Canadian Reporter

MrFisk says...

I never said anything about what the public thought, because I never interviewed them and, quite frankly, I don't care.

My issue is the reporter predicted the future.

"Some people said ... ." (past tense, showing action happened)
"Some people are saying ... ." (present tense, but isn't all present tense past tense by default?)
"Some people would say ... ." (future tense)

And I don't think journalists should predict the future, even if they don't attribute their sources. Good journalists report the facts, which means they're limited to reporting on events that have already happened, not what would or could or will potentially happen.

And as for protecting sources (real, or even imaginary):
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/03/us/james-risen-faces-jail-time-for-refusing-to-identify-a-confidential-source.html

dannym3141 said:

I'm utterly unconvinced by your assertion that the public did not think his rape conviction devalued his endorsement. Why do you think that? Because you did? As soon as i understood the story (there's no description) my immediate reaction was, "well if an ear biting rapist ex-boxer endorses you...."

I'm not saying that the broadcaster definitely had heard people saying that, but i think it's naive to think that his rape conviction went unnoticed by everyone who heard about his endorsement - i noticed. I take the way people act very seriously and mike tyson has shown himself to be a dangerous and troubled individual so my ONLY reaction to the endorsement news is "why should i care what that person thinks, given his record?"

Furthermore what responsibility are you referring to that requires him to name the persons who suggested the question to him? I thought media people have the right to protect their sources? This isn't an investigation and we're not his jury, so why would he need to name his source?

I think you're dead wrong on this one, for example if he had said "Some people are saying this is mike tyson's big come back! What do you have to say to them?" I don't think you'd be demanding that he name his individual sources.

Now if mike tyson were on tv to give his opinion on who was going to win the next football/baseball season then i'd say his past wasn't relevant. But if he's going to offer his endorsement to what seems to be a political interest, then his character and therefore his past is the only relevant issue. Mike tyson had a good opportunity here to talk about how his life has turned around, and what he believes in now. He's a very eloquent man when he wants to be, and he could have knocked that question out of the park, made a viral hit, made the endorsement 10x stronger. But you know what he did instead? He acted like a thug and spat abuse at the guy, swearing and being childish and making his endorsement 10x weaker.

Am i going crazy here? Surely publicly presenting your approval to something requires us to place a value on your approval, and allows your character to be questioned? And i can only see good reason to protect the anonymity of the person who wanted the question asked (even if it was the interviewer!) judging by tyson's childish, aggressive reaction! I mean i liked mike on charlie sheen's roast too, but this isn't a comedy show and that question was fair. Mike could have knocked this one out of the park if he had thought about it.

My cock is between these sizes- When fully erect and hard (User Poll by BoneRemake)

BoneRemake says...

re·tard
verb
verb: retard; 3rd person present: retards; past tense: retarded; past participle: retarded; gerund or present participle: retarding
riˈtärd/

1.
delay or hold back in terms of progress, development, or accomplishment.
"his progress was retarded by his limp"
synonyms: delay, slow down, slow up, hold back, hold up, set back, postpone, put back, detain, decelerate; More


I have said before and before and before, you never learn. you are in a state of arrested development.

Again, this is all my opinion, which you so fantastically love to shit all over.

So take your hormonal cry baby attitude and quit nit picking at shit you obviously have no grasp on.

* return

Bionic arm gives cyborg drummer superhuman skills

Zawash says...

From the article:
For Barnes, the device needed to be able to take cues from the human body. The lab designed a prosthesis that uses a technique called electromyography to pick up on electrical signals in the upper arm muscles. By tensing his biceps, Barnes controls a small motor that changes how tightly the prosthetic arm grips the drumstick and how quickly it moves, vital skills for a drummer.

The researchers then added another layer of complexity: a second, autonomous drumstick on the robot arm (see photo). This second stick, controlled via its own motor, uses a microphone and an accelerometer to sense the rhythm Barnes is playing, as well as music from any nearby musicians. An algorithm then produces a new beat with a complementary rhythm and melody, modelled on the music of jazz greats like John Coltrane and Thelonious Monk.

With this extra artificial intelligence, human and machine combine to make Barnes a kind of "superhuman drummer", Weinberg says.

ChaosEngine said:

Sweet, but how does he control it?

Mike & The Mechanics - The living Years

eric3579 says...

Every generation
Blames the one before
And all of their frustrations
Come beating on your door

I know that I'm a prisoner
To all my Father held so dear
I know that I'm a hostage
To all his hopes and fears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years

Crumpled bits of paper
Filled with imperfect thought
Stilted conversations
I'm afraid that's all we've got

You say you just don't see it
He says it's perfect sense
You just can't get agreement
In this present tense
We all talk a different language
Talking in defense

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye

So we open up a quarrel
Between the present and the past
We only sacrifice the future
It's the bitterness that lasts

So don't yield to the fortunes
You sometimes see as fate
It may have a new perspective
On a different date
And if you don't give up, and don't give in
You may just be O.K.

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye

I wasn't there that morning
When my Father passed away
I didn't get to tell him
All the things I had to say

I think I caught his spirit
Later that same year
I'm sure I heard his echo
In my baby's new born tears
I just wish I could have told him in the living years

Say it loud, say it clear
You can listen as well as you hear
It's too late when we die
To admit we don't see eye to eye

Into The Mind Of Reginald D Hunter - Cambridge Union Society

chingalera says...

Awesome set, this kid's union society moment carved in stone (kids' so damn nervous about hosting the best guest ever, being the class clown that he is!) WHO do think can relate better than anyone who tries to 'speak-out' being tense or intimidated approaching and encountering social media as a greenhorn?? Uhh, ME!? Chinagaloggie loves to talk about assholes and idgits, and they STILL follow protocol that enhances their own asshole....Imagine the levels of chagrin and the energy fed the universal grid encouraging one so-inclined to re-engage??

Everyone can be their own worst enemy and their best friend's nightmare.


*edit
Oh, and their own girlfriend (Rosy Palm and her five sisters) or their best friend's friend's wet dream


Oh, I'm great at parties btw...

Monsanto Prevails in U.S. Supreme Court

Payback says...

"to make"?
"until"?

Your tenses are out of date.

chingalera said:

It's by design to make all humanity into an unthinking, automatomatious slave-class with no will or mind of their own until the planet has been thoroughly and completely controlled.

Truck drifting into a garage

jack reacher-never call a girl a hooker in a local bar

9547bis says...

Cruise did kinda OK in this movie.
However from the scenes and lines you can guess that Reacher is supposed to be a much more tense and menacing figure than Cruise can portray. His I-m-the-coolest-guy-alive vibe works against him here.

George Carlin - Who's to say what's funny?

So You Think Your Job Sucks?

Drachen_Jager says...

You say that like it's past tense CrushBug. When I was in the Army this was a drill we practiced. You come away without too many holes if you do it right.

How to Justify Science (Richard Dawkins)

Stormsinger says...

Nope. The scientific method is the epitome of pragmatism. It does not claim to find "The Truth", it claims to find "the model that most reliably predicts measurable results."

It neither pretends, nor needs, to be more.

[edit to standardize the tenses]

renatojj said:

Even though I agree with him, I'm not quite satisfied with his answer.

There must be better ways to "justify" (whatever that means) the scientific method other than for its pragmatism.

Star Trek Into Darkness - International Trailer

xxovercastxx says...

I'm not a Star Trek fan, but neither do I dislike it. The problem here for me isn't what they've done to the franchise, it's what seems to be happening to every movie.

Why is everyone a "badass"? Why is everyone talking in the Batman voice? Why must every tense scene be accompanied by the focus character yelling, "aaaaaaaAAAAAAGGGH!"? Why is every tense scene followed by an exchange of quips? Why does everything have to be destroyed?

The Formula is tired and overdone. I would like to see movies with character development, acting, and interesting stories again. Even summer blockbusters should have room for that.

Fletch said:

So many Debbie Downers. Must be a new hipster thing to rip on new Star Trek, kinda like every SNL vid/thread has some boorish dolt who has to tell everyone that they haven't watched SNL for years because it hasn't been funny since the 70s.

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