"Nedal" music; a subgenre of metal music themed around the animated character Ned Flanders from the television series The Simpsons. -wiki

There are only 5 good westerns (westerns I like and would recommend), spaghetti or not, these 5 should have a "subgenre" with a respectable name.

Spaghetti western makes me think Bud Spencer & Terence Hill - laughable movies.

It's a difficult thing to really justify or demonize because sex is a head game, a dance but also a match of submissiveness versus dominance; it can become violent and abusive through the ebb and flow of permission and denial. One moment I'm smacking her ass during sex, after a year of smacking her ass, she needs to be spanked before sex even begins, and now 10 years later there's whips and clamps and shackles. It all started with a mildly amusing smack to the ass that over time became a mutual fetish.

All of that extreme abuse porn is a matter of course, just like the secret fetish in a relationship starts with something innocent then leads to something semi-professional. This is the end result of a fetish that started with Deep Throat in the '70s opening the world to oral sex. Now it's facial abuse. She doesn't need a deep throat, now she just needs to undergo a hazing.

Will regulation change an industry piloted entirely by desire and sex starved user demand? Or would the culture simply evolve around the regulations?

Japan blurs out genitals, so what happens? The culture evolves around the restrictions and now we have a thriving bukkake subgenre. You want cum in eyes? Niche. Cum in hair? Niche. Cum on teeth? For real though, the focus is on teeth. We don't even need genitals now! Just pick a spot on the body and then ejaculate in mass! What a phenomenon.

Niches form and when they trend, that's when you end up with a popular site like facial abuse.

But hazing porn exists in the reverse and is also quite popular. Pegging? Come on, where's my face sitting fans? Hey now, there's also a lesbian variety of big assed Brazilian women who abuse skinny blond girls. I don't know what they're saying, but clearly it means something along the lines of dig that white caucausian nose further up my brown latin pussy. One woman is empowered, the other not so much, but she likes it, so... empowered? But who watches it? Men? Surely not women. Well, I know several women who watch the shit out of lesbian domination porn.

I had the absolute pleasure to sit with some really open lesbians and watch lesbian domination porn where the women wrestle each other, and the winner gets to fuck the loser in humiliating and abusive ways. I mean... the topic of empowerment is tough here. If you do porn just own it. Damn. Come on, it's just sex. People just like giving each other a hard time and they're always worrying about the next generation, even though they know humans are all dirty, filthy, sex craved fiends.

I think the most abusive porn I've watched (was sort of forced to watch) was a man having his penis hit with a hammer by a very mean woman. He liked having his penis hit with a hammer for some odd reason.

I've already taken a look in the vast siftverse for some new tunes and found much non-electronical thanks to you.

Oh and I have edited my last post a bunch of times, I hope you are not too confused by that.

This is also one of my favorites: http://soundcloud.com/epikurmusic/kepos

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
I'll keep an eye out for them then. I know a few have gone through my playlists.

Tag search gets a few, just not the obvious tag - http://videosift.com/tag/8bit

Just noticed... you're getting rather close to gold these days :

In reply to this comment by luxury_pie:
Hey thanks for the link. Though the song didn't exactly hit my taste... hairs? (you know, in the ear) :
I don't like most of the electronica / d'n'b songs with vocals in it. Very often it just doesn't add anything to the experience, IMO. Although this song was quite ambient and "easy listening".

But I'm always looking for a good electronical tune (no matter what subgenre), preferably with all kinds of influences. I would open a big bucket of power points for somebody who can give me a really good electronica - klezmer sound.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Do you like electronica, and particularly d'n'b?

This one's on 9 and I quite liked it:
http://videosift.com/video/seba-Paradox-feat-Robert-Manos-move-on


Perhaps not quite as much as the violin one that you found in Beggar's canyon, but 1000 times more than the death metal one :

I'll keep an eye out for them then. I know a few have gone through my playlists.

Tag search gets a few, just not the obvious tag - http://videosift.com/tag/8bit

Just noticed... you're getting rather close to gold these days

In reply to this comment by luxury_pie:
Hey thanks for the link. Though the song didn't exactly hit my taste... hairs? (you know, in the ear) :
I don't like most of the electronica / d'n'b songs with vocals in it. Very often it just doesn't add anything to the experience, IMO. Although this song was quite ambient and "easy listening".

But I'm always looking for a good electronical tune (no matter what subgenre), preferably with all kinds of influences. I would open a big bucket of power points for somebody who can give me a really good electronica - klezmer sound.

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Do you like electronica, and particularly d'n'b?

This one's on 9 and I quite liked it:
http://videosift.com/video/seba-Paradox-feat-Robert-Manos-move-on

Perhaps not quite as much as the violin one that you found in Beggar's canyon, but 1000 times more than the death metal one :

Hey thanks for the link. Though the song didn't exactly hit my taste... hairs? (you know, in the ear)
I don't like most of the electronica / d'n'b songs with vocals in it. Very often it just doesn't add anything to the experience I am looking for. Although this song was quite ambient and "easy listening".

But I'm always looking for a good electronical tune (no matter what subgenre), preferably with all kinds of influences. I would open a big bucket of power points for somebody who can give me a really good electronica - klezmer sound.

Here's a set that describes my taste most accurately at the moment: http://soundcloud.com/berlin-kreuzberg-institut/bki-21-robosonic-dj-mix-fusion-festival-2010

In reply to this comment by oritteropo:
Do you like electronica, and particularly d'n'b?

This one's on 9 and I quite liked it:
http://videosift.com/video/seba-Paradox-feat-Robert-Manos-move-on

Perhaps not quite as much as the violin one that you found in Beggar's canyon, but 1000 times more than the death metal one :

>> ^dag:

looks funny - and does seem to be a subgenre. Just rembember, Greatest American Hero did it first.



Hang on. George Constanza's anwering phone message was based on a real song! I did not know that.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

looks funny - and does seem to be a subgenre. Just rembember, Greatest American Hero did it first.

@Abel_Prisc

Yeah, it's not that I have a problem with unrealistic things...it's the degree to which they seem to pass things off as possible or realistic. Obviously it's a subjective judgement on my part, but, for example, look at Star Wars. I think it's very obvious that it's more science fantasy than science fiction. They don't care to tell you how hyperdrives work, or where lightsabers come from, etc. With Fringe, I just feel like they're trying too hard to explain the technology and make it seem real when it's clearly not.

I wish I had a good example off the top of my head to illustrate what I mean, but it's been a while since the show's last season ended. Basically, I'm willing to accept the alternate universe thing, but I don't need details beyond that...I don't need some BS explanation about how the portals work, etc...I think it takes away from the best parts of the show when they fill things in with that stuff.

Take the X-Files...a similar show. Their "explanations" of the crazy shit was always MUCH closer to reality...much more bordering on the possible or the slightly exaggerated. Sure, it wasn't amazing all the time, but I dunno, most of the episodes seemed more plausible. For this reason, I usually prefer to read hard sci-fi, but if I read something that's more fantasy, I want the author to know what he/she's about, not try to pass fantastic stuff off as plausible. Embrace the impossibility of the story, y'know? ...it's fine...people will accept it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_fiction#Subgenres

I know my explanation of my gripe is a little lengthy, hopefully you have some sort of attention span.

I definitely agree about the Emmys, and by no means should anyone take my comments as a reason to avoid the show...I love it despite its flaws.

you left out the pacifist, feminist, social anarchist variety.
therefore, i find this poll sexist, classist and thereby oppressive.

the entanglement of lanuage used to describe political leanings is too much. to the point of near meaninglessness.
it's like musical genres, with all the subgenres and subgenres of those subgenres and then when genres mix. it's too much language. language is a useful tool but in the case of modern political discussion, i find it serves as a divisive force.

like just reading the words on the poll alone, i already wanna fight with that voluntarist guy and the national corportatist guy. why? because of the language used to describe his world view.

Interesting to see we have so many electronica fans here. I'm definitely for it.

I only rediscovered electronica a three or four years back, basically when I found pandora. I do remember being shocked when I stumbled over the Wikipedia page listing all the subgenres of electronica. How in the hell can there be ~200 defined subgenres? That question haunts me almost as much as the fact that there is not only a genre for viking folk metal, but there are enough such bands that someone can make a 10 best list. Has the whole world gone mad?

There's a whole fetish subgenre centered around injecting your scrotum and penis with fluids in order to fill them up. I've mostly heard of people using saline solution, but apparently this guy wanted something more permanent. As I understand it, the people who do this get enough kicks out of it they don't really care that it means they can't have sex. Of course with saline it's a more transient transformation, but it seems to be something people get quite addicted to. Go figure.

I declare this to be a *geek *artform. This from the *cooking subgenre, seeing as how it's in a supermarket and all.

Man, this is a long sequence. The sound of the falling packets is crazy hypnotic though. I love it.

it's a very tedious way to analyse great music, but i think i would say dubstep earned the right to be called a genre because it's the catchiest name, but there are subgenres such as grime, halfstep, darkstep, newstep etc... and well grime is kinda its own genre now too. And it is totally unlike twostep, even if it sounds like twostep sometimes, it's not. There's a different motivation for making it, and that comes through subliminally somehow.

however, i wouldn't call dubstep mature, nobody really agrees what it is, and in this video they make the point that it's so early there are still many possibilities. The best thing about my best dubstep party ever was there was so much variety, and it was all good, no "ahh that's shit, that's not dubstep" kinda feeling. I like the attitude of "very very good sub bassline, and then anything goes on top of that". I loved it when a tune from about 2005 brought shouts of "OOOOLLLLLLLLD SKOOOOOOL!"

Technological innovation? How about Burial rejecting the sequencer and even the metronome, making all his tunes in soundforge by looking at the waveforms? How about technological DEinnovation? How about the innovation of a club spending all their money on a sound system and none on lights and interiors? Sound system technology has seriously increased in the last 10 years and it's affordable now for smaller underground clubs. That's a big deal.

Anyway you didn't answer my question so i guess you never went to FWD... it really has to be felt (not just seen or heard) to be believed, and that's perhaps the best thing about it. It's a secret, just for the people that bothered to find out

Well, let's rephrase and elaborate. My argument was indeed kinda fuzzy
The point of what I commented is that I see Twostep as 1. the main subgenre that 2. now (seems to - not yet convinced become(s) more mature (like when e.g. rave developed into gabber (with the distinctive distorted beats) or when trance became warmer (e.g. with Out of the Blue by Ferry Corsten, which was based on technological innovation in the genre)) under the - I think - wrong name of dubstep (they should stick with twostep and when being more specific e.g. say "dark twostep", "light twostep", etc.)!