On the one hand, having a guided experience like that from somebody that knows the "proper" way of doing things is a very good thing.

On the other hand, I hate snobbery when it becomes sort of evangelical to the point of "saving people from ruining their meal". Maybe they like "candy sushi" rolls, dipped into soy sauce mixed with wasabi to the point of being salt bombs. I do. AND I like good nagiri the "proper" way also.

I'm not a wine snob but I have several wine snob friends who recommend me wine and they've never let me down. I'm not jealous of someone's refined tastes, I'm happy to let someone else do all the hard work of honing their taste and using their experience to help me purchase something that will impress a woman and let me indulge in my refined tastes. My happiness is a testament to other people's wine snobbery. Thank you, snobs. True wingmen.

i am gonna call bullshit.
i am not disputing that study he referenced nor am i going to defend wine snobbery (cuz thats just being an asshole).

but i have known a few people who could tell you the varietal or appellation just by taste.

hell,twenty years ago i was running a ballroom at this very affluent country club and every year one of the main partners would come down from canada and every year me and my boss would try to trick him with a wine tasting.

we even blindfolded his ass.
and every single time he would nail it.
sometimes even by vintner!
the man was impressive.

wine snobs are just trying to keep themselves relevant,but wine is fairly easy once you know the basics:
1.the things that raise the price of wine (not make it better in most cases) is storage time and name of vintner.
2.wines can be broken down into basic categories:
dry-semi dry
sweet-semi sweet
and of course white or red.(and i guess blush/rose)

dont get all caught up in intimidating processes that are unnecessary and frankly..useless.

drink what you like,and you dont have to break the bank for a good wine.

*promote my hometown homie and the sate i grew up in,though without all the snobbery,elitist rich inbreeding.

Yeah, I refuse to pay a premium for a placebo, Not because I feel I am immune to all that subconscious fuckery, but because I'd hate to think I am in any way subsidising wine snobbery.

Also, Champagne vs sparkling wine. They both stink. Idk how anybody puts their nose in a glass of either, regardless of price.

I half agree with both points of view. First of all, doing it your own way is fine, it's not doing it 'wrong' or being rude. So long as you're not talking with your mouth full, you're golden.

But if you see it as time honored suggestions for how to enjoy the experience more; that's both useful and interesting. I'd love it if we could have conversations about how to enjoy food without any snobbery.

But honestly for some people the joy of superiority is most of what they get out of it. For them these rituals are not about the food, it's about identifying the lower class who don't know what the tiny fork is for. Or in this case, when to eat the ginger.

It's not the learning the "proper way" to appreciate whiskey at its best that's the problem, but the snobbery and scorn poured upon people who like to drink it in ways that the self-appointed cognoscenti don't approve of. It's my single malt, I'll serve it over ice or with too much water or mix it with Mountain Dew or pour it over my cornflakes if I want to.

Less snobbery and more information would have made for a better video.

Ok, so it'll cost 20 trillion dollars to replace all the roads in the country... How much would it cost to repave all those roads? I suspect that would also be more than the annual federal budget, yet all those roads still exist.

Apparently it takes a shitload of energy to melt ice, but how much energy does it take to prevent ice from forming?

Skepticism is absolutely the correct position here until we begin to see functional systems in real-world situations but, if you're going to spend the last 3 minutes of your critique video puffing on about how you're doing the real investigative journalism that we all need, then maybe you should perform a proper investigation and reveal your facts and findings like an intelligent adult.

The punk kid in this is no Dirk Benedict, but man!, I'm enjoying this web series.
I liked Dragon Age: Redemption as well. I think the lower expectations I have for web series, as compared to film or television, are allowing me to let go of some snobbery and just enjoy these fun little shows.
...on the other hand.. it could be that the small cast and the intimate, 'travel along with us on this journey' setting allows for richer characters - and I do love a good character!

This video brings out my un-closeted chagrin at the myriad of stupid human tricks we're subject to on the internet and a sinking realization that the future has only more of the same banality in store, and it makes me sad.

It's a fucking string there Presto the Largenificent!!

And that's not snobbery you are sensing Fade, it may very well be a cultural malaise that sets in when one doesn't get out of their own hemisphere often enough. Wouldn't sweat it. Never been to France but I know I'd get tired of their bullshit really quick.

Well, I am on the West Coast, and I suspect a bias against the South. That whole West Coast elite snobbery has some basis in fact.

Glad to hear lots are saying no.

The election is today, so we'll know soon enough.


>> ^Edgeman2112:

>> ^bareboards2:
But what about the gay marriage amendment that has garnered so much early support?
It is great to read that when the voters are educated about the effects of the laws on hetereo-couples, the support wanes.
But dang howdy. Wasn't it 66% support at first? On just the face of it?

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I live in NC. This is some backwoods stuff for sure. Most people here are rational and not the stereotypical southern derp derp type.


That's news to me. It seems alot of people are saying no to it.

As an American raised on British comedy (Python, the Goodies, Douglas Adams, Terry Pratchett, Eddie Izzard, Ricky Gervais....) it appears that the strain of snobbery still runs deep in the English psyche. There seems to be a sense of entitlement among the upper class that its fine to be horribly rude to those you consider to be less educated. While the Cambridge-Oxford educated Python's took the upper class to task for this, I wonder if Ricky Gervais, who has working class roots, has affected this as a social climbing technique. He is very funny, and obviously very intellegent, but he is unbelievably cruel to Karl, and other people he considers to be friends. The woman and last man that Karl talks to treat him with the contempt that I find offensive.

@blankfist

Eventually we could all be working for the big corporations, and with less competition they could lessen benefits such as health or vacation pay, they could easily lower wages, and they could then extend the expected work week from 40 hours to something like 100 hours. If that sounds farfetched, I can tell you from first hand experience I've seen this exact thing happen to an industry I know very well. And when I say big corporations, I mean major parent companies that buy large businesses. For instance, let's take the advertising industry. One parent company could own almost all of the major companies in that industry, so if you complain about the 100 hour work week and loss of vacation benefits, your chances of receiving another job in that industry are cut to almost zero. I've seen it. And they do illegal shit like tell women not to get pregnant.

That is exactly what's happening. Wages began stagnating in the 70's. At the time, women were moving into the work force so the impact on families was offset by an extra income. And today, it's out of control. It's been researched and it's been documented. And it's visible if you look at all the personal debt families have. Americans take less vacation time than other industrialized nation. The US is also the only industrialized nation who does not mandate vacation time. I read something the other day (disclaimer: i don't have a good grasp on economics, it was a complicated paper and i'm a bit dyslexic/dyscalculic so I've got to reread it a few times before I'm totally confident I understand it, and then research it for accuracy) and the idea of it just fascinated me. It was something like, wages used to increase as labor's productivity increased.. like it was inherently built into the market. So maybe technology eliminated the need for as many people, but the remaining workers were more productive, so their wages should have been going up. But the mid 70's saw an abandonment of this principle in favor of higher profits and the consequences of that have been devastating for working people ever since. Like, they broke a rule of the market and it's sent tremors through almost 40 years and now everything is fucked up and the worker is more and more screwed everyday.

now, regulation: we've been peeling back regulations for decades. and it seems to have worked antithetically to your hypothesized outcome. why do you think that is? which regulations are you talking about, specifically?
I don't disagree that it should be fairly simple to start your own new business. And I don't like or trust government either, but I want some kind of assurance that this new business is not polluting my air, water, community, that its employees are not being exploited and are paid a living wage and that sanitary practices are being followed. What sort of system do you propose to keep new restaurants from serving rat poo infested soups made by 5 year olds? ..... maybe, eventually, the free market would take care of this sort of violation but after how many people eat there and get sick? And after how many child chefs burn their little fingers on hot stoves?

And when people feel they pay into a nanny system, they feel less generous to help those in front of them. I know, I see it every damn day in LA.

this statement is a motherfucking cop-out. i'm not saying that you dont "see" it.. i'm just saying people should know better. The "nanny-system" obviously, isn't taking take care of those in front of them. This is where i see a major downfall in individualism. "I would help, but something else is already helping you. I'm looking out for #1!! I already gave to charity this week.. see where my pay stub says 'FICA'?"... And "someone else is already doing it" has become the operative ethic of the gen-x yuppie class. It is an excuse for petulance and cold heartedness and snobbery. If we lived in nomadic, tribal hunter/gatherer communities, they would be the first kicked out of the clan. ... and John Winthrop would have thrown them off the arabella. Shame on them.

I spend a great deal of time with the "nanny-system"... personally, professionally and academically. There are atrocious disparities. My most functionally impaired clients also happen to my poorest clients. At first, I thought this was a coincidence. It isn't. Not at all. Diagnosis doesn't have as much to do with prognosis as the financial and social status of the person living with the disability. (e.g. parents can't afford to make the home handicap accessible, so the wheelchair can't make it through the front door, so person with the disability spends 30 years crawling around on the floor, which solves the problem of moving from room to room, but creates 100 other problems in its place. the body is so malformed at this point, employment placement for the disabled adult is impossible, i could give you 500 other examples) This is a sin.

In a lot of ways, I agree... government is too bulky and convoluted here to be as effective as it needs to be. The apparatus is too cumbersome and the funding and political/community support for such services is far too small. It doesn't have to be this way. Nationally, we've tabled charity and efficiency as a virtue, in favor of strength and might and greed and pride. Social Services could be reworked, in a vastly more effective and efficient way if only we had the political and social will to do it. We could do it for a lot cheaper as well, I think. I won't go on my diatribe about how disability services needs to function, mostly because its full of jargon and boring.

But, I think we mostly agree on a lot of things, namely, corporations are fucking us all and the government is providing the reach around. every 4 years half of us orgasm when our candidate is elected by popular vote. only for the pounding to commence again the following January.

>> ^triumphtigercub:

Spare me the snobbery. This maybe not capital A Art to some of you who think Art must meet some aesthetic criteria of a higher brow nature, or be didactic or appealing to your particular sensibilities. I don't give a rat's ass what conservatives think is art... even the prettiest blond Jesus is art, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. This has more to do with how deep the stick is up your particular ass. The performance exhibited the skill and talent of the dancers, and the production overall had its own beauty and appeal even if sexually explicit and vulgar (especially the second linked video, thank you). There was quality, production, and expression and for that, it may well be art.

If you really believe all that, I have some art to sell you. By strange coincidence I recently happened to empty my left nostril.

Spare me the snobbery. This maybe not capital A Art to some of you who think Art must meet some aesthetic criteria of a higher brow nature, or be didactic or appealing to your particular sensibilities. I don't give a rat's ass what conservatives think is art... even the prettiest blond Jesus is art, but that doesn't mean I have to like it. This has more to do with how deep the stick is up your particular ass. The performance exhibited the skill and talent of the dancers, and the production overall had its own beauty and appeal even if sexually explicit and vulgar (especially the second linked video, thank you). There was quality, production, and expression and for that, it may well be art.