Interesting. I pretty much only use PS3 to play games (which is rare), watch BDMVs, stream NetFlix and as a DLNA device (PlayOn, PS3 Media Server). It would be cool to play SNES/NES ROMS on there. I wish there was a better DLNA interface other than the stupid folders. That's what irks me the most, to be honest.

Let me know what you do with it when you hack it.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
As soon as I got my PS3 I realized it had more potential than playing games...since I'm not even a big gamer I figured I should utilize everything available. Eventually I caught up with the history of PS3's open-source origins. Originally you were able to load linux and install your own files onto PS3 as if it were any ol' computer. Then they decided to take that away with an update (firmware >3.41). Since they were advertising an open sourced system, they couldn't legally take that away without being sued (which they were) so they claimed the updates were optional. Here's the kicker, without the updates you could no longer watch blue-ray nor access playstation network, nor play many of the games.

*enter hackers*
They pretty much found ways to hack ps3, but as far as I know it requires actual hardware that you must purchase. These days it is pretty cheap hardware.

It's hard to pretend like I'm totally pissed about this since I didn't even own a PS3 when open-source was king, but now that I know it did exist, I want a piece of that vintage console.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
You have lofty goals for your PS3. I never thought about it, to be honest, but it sounds like you've got an even better idea for the PS3 - let me know how all that works out. I wish there was a way to change the DLNA interface to something better. Maybe there is somewhere? Would be nice if you could modify that.

And sorry I mean VNC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Yes...the PS3 interface is horrid. I have 50 giggle-bytes (sounds cuter) of music on my laptop...are you saying I have to search through all the folders of music and porn...er...videos? I found a way around this though...I have winamp remote and I use the PS3 browser to log into orbcast which is a front end for winamp remote. That let's me search, so it's a little better. What's a VCN? I mostly want a media server actually connected to my television so that I can easily run programs straight from the source. I like the front end of those moxy boxee foxy roxy soxy and lixy programs. I think some of those I made up though.

Also, the Hulu shows that are on PlayON are the same as the ones on Hulu plus...which exclude a lot of good shows you can watch on the good ol' fashioned internet. They figured since most PS3's are hooked to TV and most computers are hooked up to smaller monitors, people will keep their cable bills if they keep some of the shows via internet only. The PS3 browser, if you haven't notice, won't play ANY Hulu...and that's no accident.

A jailbreak would allow me to potentially have an open source PS3 (just as god intended it). They came up with some bullshit that open source would be a security threat to the playstation network...when really it's all copyright bullshit that companies like Hulu and those clients of Hulu have agreed upon. If I want to run yellow dog linux on my PS3, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Then I wouldn't need to struggle through the PS3 interface. Also, I'd like to load some emulators for SNES onto my playstation...god forbid Nintendo gives rights to sell Super Mario Bros Allstars to Sony.

As soon as I got my PS3 I realized it had more potential than playing games...since I'm not even a big gamer I figured I should utilize everything available. Eventually I caught up with the history of PS3's open-source origins. Originally you were able to load linux and install your own files onto PS3 as if it were any ol' computer. Then they decided to take that away with an update (firmware >3.41). Since they were advertising an open sourced system, they couldn't legally take that away without being sued (which they were) so they claimed the updates were optional. Here's the kicker, without the updates you could no longer watch blue-ray nor access playstation network, nor play many of the games.

*enter hackers*
They pretty much found ways to hack ps3, but as far as I know it requires actual hardware that you must purchase. These days it is pretty cheap hardware.

It's hard to pretend like I'm totally pissed about this since I didn't even own a PS3 when open-source was king, but now that I know it did exist, I want a piece of that vintage console.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
You have lofty goals for your PS3. I never thought about it, to be honest, but it sounds like you've got an even better idea for the PS3 - let me know how all that works out. I wish there was a way to change the DLNA interface to something better. Maybe there is somewhere? Would be nice if you could modify that.

And sorry I mean VNC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Yes...the PS3 interface is horrid. I have 50 giggle-bytes (sounds cuter) of music on my laptop...are you saying I have to search through all the folders of music and porn...er...videos? I found a way around this though...I have winamp remote and I use the PS3 browser to log into orbcast which is a front end for winamp remote. That let's me search, so it's a little better. What's a VCN? I mostly want a media server actually connected to my television so that I can easily run programs straight from the source. I like the front end of those moxy boxee foxy roxy soxy and lixy programs. I think some of those I made up though.

Also, the Hulu shows that are on PlayON are the same as the ones on Hulu plus...which exclude a lot of good shows you can watch on the good ol' fashioned internet. They figured since most PS3's are hooked to TV and most computers are hooked up to smaller monitors, people will keep their cable bills if they keep some of the shows via internet only. The PS3 browser, if you haven't notice, won't play ANY Hulu...and that's no accident.

A jailbreak would allow me to potentially have an open source PS3 (just as god intended it). They came up with some bullshit that open source would be a security threat to the playstation network...when really it's all copyright bullshit that companies like Hulu and those clients of Hulu have agreed upon. If I want to run yellow dog linux on my PS3, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Then I wouldn't need to struggle through the PS3 interface. Also, I'd like to load some emulators for SNES onto my playstation...god forbid Nintendo gives rights to sell Super Mario Bros Allstars to Sony.

You have lofty goals for your PS3. I never thought about it, to be honest, but it sounds like you've got an even better idea for the PS3 - let me know how all that works out. I wish there was a way to change the DLNA interface to something better. Maybe there is somewhere? Would be nice if you could modify that.

And sorry I mean VNC: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_Network_Computing

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
Yes...the PS3 interface is horrid. I have 50 giggle-bytes (sounds cuter) of music on my laptop...are you saying I have to search through all the folders of music and porn...er...videos? I found a way around this though...I have winamp remote and I use the PS3 browser to log into orbcast which is a front end for winamp remote. That let's me search, so it's a little better. What's a VCN? I mostly want a media server actually connected to my television so that I can easily run programs straight from the source. I like the front end of those moxy boxee foxy roxy soxy and lixy programs. I think some of those I made up though.

Also, the Hulu shows that are on PlayON are the same as the ones on Hulu plus...which exclude a lot of good shows you can watch on the good ol' fashioned internet. They figured since most PS3's are hooked to TV and most computers are hooked up to smaller monitors, people will keep their cable bills if they keep some of the shows via internet only. The PS3 browser, if you haven't notice, won't play ANY Hulu...and that's no accident.

A jailbreak would allow me to potentially have an open source PS3 (just as god intended it). They came up with some bullshit that open source would be a security threat to the playstation network...when really it's all copyright bullshit that companies like Hulu and those clients of Hulu have agreed upon. If I want to run yellow dog linux on my PS3, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Then I wouldn't need to struggle through the PS3 interface. Also, I'd like to load some emulators for SNES onto my playstation...god forbid Nintendo gives rights to sell Super Mario Bros Allstars to Sony.

Yes...the PS3 interface is horrid. I have 50 giggle-bytes (sounds cuter) of music on my laptop...are you saying I have to search through all the folders of music and porn...er...videos? I found a way around this though...I have winamp remote and I use the PS3 browser to log into orbcast which is a front end for winamp remote. That let's me search, so it's a little better. What's a VCN? I mostly want a media server actually connected to my television so that I can easily run programs straight from the source. I like the front end of those moxy boxee foxy roxy soxy and lixy programs. I think some of those I made up though.

Also, the Hulu shows that are on PlayON are the same as the ones on Hulu plus...which exclude a lot of good shows you can watch on the good ol' fashioned internet. They figured since most PS3's are hooked to TV and most computers are hooked up to smaller monitors, people will keep their cable bills if they keep some of the shows via internet only. The PS3 browser, if you haven't notice, won't play ANY Hulu...and that's no accident.

A jailbreak would allow me to potentially have an open source PS3 (just as god intended it). They came up with some bullshit that open source would be a security threat to the playstation network...when really it's all copyright bullshit that companies like Hulu and those clients of Hulu have agreed upon. If I want to run yellow dog linux on my PS3, why shouldn't I be able to do that? Then I wouldn't need to struggle through the PS3 interface. Also, I'd like to load some emulators for SNES onto my playstation...god forbid Nintendo gives rights to sell Super Mario Bros Allstars to Sony.



In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Not a fan of Playon, huh? Well, it's probably the PS3's DLNA interface that bothers you the most. Question, how are you using it if you don't have a media server? My configuration is an old PC I was going to get rid of connected to my wireless router via ethernet cable. I run PS3 Media Server and Playon (I also run a VCN so I can access it without having to plug in a keyboard or mouse.).

I don't use boxee or any of the other DLNA units, just the PS3 because I already own it. The interface isn't awesome, but whatever. And playon is great for me because it was a one time fee of $80-90 bucks which is a single month's cable bill, to be honest. And now I only pay for NetFlix, and my Hulu stream is free. You can't beat free.

What's the benefits of jailbreaking your PS3?

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I have playon, I don't like it as much as I like the user interfaces of Hulu, Netflix, etc. However, I do like that you can download scripts for channels. I use it for comedy central, cartoon network, etc. I'm about halfway sure that I'm going to build a media center so that I can use moxi boxee and all the other 'ox-(ies). I just don't know if I want to spend close to a grand doing it. Or $600 at the least.

Oh and check this out: http://www.ps3breakstore.com/

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
I use PS3 Media Server and Playon. Playon costs, but there's a onetime fee only.

GIMMICK! Gaming always has these cycles of little peripherals, control schemes, etc. that at best contribute a few fun experiences, but are always are advertised as revolutionary, incredible things that will forever change way we play games.

Some examples:
Nintendo Power Glove (NES) - worthless as a controller, for any purpose

Light Gun (NES) - Games worth playing that used the light gun: Duck Hunt

Super Scope (SNES) - the Super Nintendo version of the light gun, minus anything worthwhile to play with it

3D/"Virtual Reality" goggles, Virtual Boy (var.) - the next "big thing" is always 3D displays through glasses or head-mounted displays. Reality: the hardware has always detracted from the experience, ranging from mildly annoying at best to instant motion sickness / vomit-inducing nightmare. Good 3D software engines displayed on a flat 2D screen actually *did* revolutionize gaming in a way these likely never will.

Dance Pad/Mat control (Dance Dance Revolution, etc.) - Makes kids exercise! Watch all the fatties lose weight! Sound familiar? Reality: niche appeal, niche market, fatties stay fat

Guitar Hero guitar controllers - Kids learn to appreciate music! They can develop musical talent! Reality: learn to play a faster-paced, vaguely guitar shaped version of Simon!


I don't mean to suggest that some of these things aren't fun. However, I think this sort of thing is guaranteed to have at best a pretty quick flash-in-the-pan sort of popularity. The best ones are instances where the peripheral is designed to work and work well with one given game or type of game, and the cost of that niche input method is just added in to the price of the game it was designed for.

To me, Nintendo was insane to base the entire market viability of the Wii around motion control. Competitors will develop their own solutions (Kinect, for example) and steal away some of the surge of motion control novelty attraction. Once the novelty wears off people will realize that the controllers, keyboard and mouse, joysticks etc. that have been used as input methods for 30+ years have been around that long because they aren't gimmicks, they actually *(&%ing work.

/rant over
//get off my lawn

>> ^gwiz665:
@rottenseed SNES was awesome, and don't forget it.



btw, is there any way to get an SNES emulator onto PS3? Because that would solve ALLLLLLL of my couples gaming woes.

@rottenseed SNES was awesome, and don't forget it.

Thank you for all the advice. I have a list now of things to look for and try out. I've already found the PS3 a good addition to our household as it acts as a media center (I don't have to bring my laptop downstairs and plug it in to the TV). I've also bought a subscription to Netflix and am thinking about doing Hulu plus (any thoughts?).

These features are all amazing to me as the last console I owned was SNES (no joke).

>> ^visionep:

Reminds me of the end of "Spirited Away" at least up until the beat picks up.


It sounds a lot like something from Chrono Trigger for the SNES (and DS) as well.

Its intresting to see console games gradualy coppy and impliment things that have been in pc games for a long time and a shame that we have not seen more arcade games on pc although saying that that is kinda whats hapaning in pc casual where PC has replaced the role that Snes nes, typ consoles used to hold.

Im sure this will be a good console game its a shame it will probably be quite naff and not realy work as a pc game.

I quite enjoyed MW2 as a console game i do think however it would have been far more enjoyable if it was made around pcs , faster aiming , better graphics ( proper hosting ) Free custom maps.

The in thing now is for developers to do multiplatform but not actualy design for each platform so u have a game that only realy works well on 1 of the platforms and is pritty shoddy on the rest.

Its pritty bad how the Guy in this video didnot credit the mod makers that invented gun game and pritty much made out that it was there design team that came up with it. These developer videos are often such bullshit.

Just going to have to wait 4 months or so after this is out so i can pick it up for £10 second hand , GOt to love how publishers are drowning themselfs by producing game after game with limited content and overcharging for it , They claim that piracy is what killed pc gaming ( evan though for multiplayer games its not realy an issue) but whats amsuing is that they are going to be responsable for commiting suicide on the consoles as greed gets the better of them,

Tags for this video have been changed from 'nes, snes, contra, mario, super, animation, metroid' to 'nes, contra, mario, super, animation, metroid, zelda, kirby, mega man' - edited by Sarzy

Ahh yes, my favorite past time, midi music. I picked up my first cd rom drive and with it, the must have cd game of all time, 7th guest. 7th guest was a SVGA game (That sucker was 8 bit color! 256 colors and some how they pulled off transluscent digital video footage over the back ground) that used Midi for all its music. I discovered the game had an easter egg, the 2nd disc had a red book cd audio track of most of the games soundtrack played on the SCC1 roland board. After hearing just how good these midi files could sound, I quickly got into the world of PC Midi. I upgraded my SBpro to an SB16 multi cd, this monster not only supported the proprietory connector for my cdrom drive, but also an MPU expansion connector for a midi daughter board. The first daughter board I got was creatives wave blaster, but it was pretty weak. I figured out if I wanted a really good midi sound, I would need to plunk down some seriouse cash, and it would probably need to be from roland. So I picked up the roland SCD-15 (I still have that thing! but nothing to plug it into now) and while not quite as good as the dedicated SCC1, it was enjoyable. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJlkz6V0VOQ to hear how it sounded)

I picked up the SBlive as soon as it came out and proceeded to knock several megs of instruments into that sucker as well. I even put together a sound font called musica theoria (its hilarious when I google that now). My thirst for playing with midi music now is dried up now, but I have a sizeable collection of chip music, sound tracks from my fav gameboy/genesis/snes/ps1 (the entire final fantasy 7-9 series is chip music) so I can hark back on old memories of how music evolved over the decades.

@GeeSussFreeK, the comments on collegehumor say it's a remix of "Kirby arrives on the scene", from Kirby Super Star on the SNES.

Arg, what is that music from...it is from a video game. NES-SNES days. argggh

I used to love Final Fantasy games, but for me it started going downhill after whatever FF3 for SNES was in the Japanese numbering... 5? 6?

However, I won't fall into the trap of claiming that FF3(6?) was actually better than the more recent endeavors -- the real difference is that I personally grew out / away from them. Some of that stems from my being roughly 10-15 years old when I was massively intrigued with FF2 and FF3, but I don't want to overstate that and suggest that an older player can't enjoy the series. What I really grew dissatisfied with is the leveling system that is so prominently featured in JRPGs, and to a certain extent western RPGs as well.

My specific problem is this: I start out as a level 1 peon, with 100 health points. My level 1 stick of smiting does 10 points of damage, and the imps I am fighting have about 50 health points each. I grind away for a while, slowly being spoonfed a storyline that isn't exactly Pulitzer material.

Pretty soon, I bask in my own splendor at having reached level 10. At level 10, I have 1000 health points. I now have an iron sword which does 100 damage, and I'm now fighting ogres that have 500 health points each.

By the time I reach the final boss (or actually in the case of FF games, only after spending some significant grind time after that point) I'm up to a godly level 100, and I now have a massive 10,000 health points. My heavenly sword of deadliness hits for a staggering 1000 damage, but the drakes I am fighting are up to a beefy 5000 hp each.

What's wrong with this picture? Only the fact that the entire leveling system is completely meaningless. The proportions between my level, health, damage, and enemy strength remain essentially constant. At the end of the game, I'm basically doing the exact same things to win a battle that I was at the start. All of the flashy new skills, spells, etc. that I have access to provide me with very brief moments of new gameplay experiences that merely serve to emphasize how consistent and predictable 99% of the rest of the game is.

My foes are visually much more impressive and intimidating by the end of the game, but those looks can't really hide the fact that inside they are just a level 1/10/100 "angry bag" that functions in basically the same way from start to finish. There are exceptions, but not in any truly profound way.

Practically every RPG falls prey to this problem, but the ones that annoy me the most are those that utilize leveling that results in characters that are statistically orders of magnitude more powerful at their final level than they were at the start. Growing to be ten times more effective in combat after training / battle experience? Maybe, depending on where you place the baseline / "level 1". 100 times? I doubt it. 1000 times? Um, no.

Skills-based leveling limits this problem. Sometimes. But really, I'd love to see an RPG where a max-level veteran is statistically only 3-5 times stronger than a completely fresh noob. But realistically, I know that the only way that system can work is in an open-world sandbox style game, and those seem to be rapidly falling out of favor. A pity, at least to my tastes.