Back in 2014 I worked for a company in Naples FL that is owned by Jack Roush. The job was mostly road testing new cars before they started hitting dealer lots. We would travel on specified routes for 8 hours. There was day and night shifts. I mostly drove nights. The routes were on Interstate and city roads. Every test vehicle had a Black Box.

We had three 2015 Vipers. The thing I liked the most with that car is that it felt like you were sitting in the hand of God. I cannot tell you how hard it was to keep to the speed limit. It was so hard that I got written up just for "touching" 100 mph for 2 seconds.

Me and Viper https://ibb.co/DWTx0Wy

In 2014 I road tested new cars before they hit the showroom floor. Got to drive the new 2015 Corvette Stingray from Florida to Las Vegas. They did a 15 min emission test and then spent a day off in Vegas and then back to Florida.

I loved the scenery in this video and it took me back to my trip out west, all expenses paid in new Corvette.

I did lose $25 gambling. I paid a hooker $25 and then she ran off with my money. I knew it was gamble to start with. Hookers don't usually push shopping carts.

Back in 2014 I had a job driving Over The Road Test Vehicles.

After putting 25,000 miles on a car I would drive it to Montgomery AL to the Hyundai plant where they would disassemble the vehicle and inspect it. Then they would just recycle it.

When flying into or out of Montgomery Regional Airport you can't miss the plant because they have Hyundai in big letters on the roof. Visible on Google Earth too.

In their showroom they have actual cutaway engines you can look at. Those damn things don't look like any engine I recognize. Amazing.

This video shows what the cars looks like when testing. We only drove them to get the required amount of miles on the vehicle for the manufacture. No test tracks or courses like the video shows.



That was a fun job for me. Got to drive the 2015 Corvette Stingray from Florida to Las Vegas and back to Florida again before they were ever hit the showroom floor.

The Dodge Viper and Dodge Challenger with the Hellcat engine were also nice treat.

Was just watching the old Mythbusters where they took an actual driving road test while intoxicated or talking on a cell phone. But, being actual driving, they legally had to stay under the .08 BAC limit even though it was on a closed course.

Really cool to see this place, where they can test things at mild/moderate/high levels of impairment, other types of intoxication, etc.

However, I did have one minor complaint, sort of the same as in the Mythbusters episode: it would be nice to see additional tests where the driver isn't ever expected to look at a video camera and/or respond correctly to questions. Ie., what if you're talking to somebody on the phone hands free, or talking to a passenger in the car, but you're not expected to devote a lot of attention to that ALL the time. In a real scenario, you can keep your eyes on the road and pay attention to driving while also listening to someone or even talking to them a little bit. If you see something in the road that requires your full attention, it seems like your brain should be able to do a reasonable job of prioritizing the driving (more important) over paying attention to the conversation (less important).

I'd wager that on average, people in that sort of scenario are slightly impaired compared to drivers putting 100% of their attention on driving, but not by a big margin. Probably lower than a lot of other distractions, some of which we deem acceptable (hard to legislate things like "driving while preoccupied" angry/sad/whatever).

Everywhere I've lived there's a two second delay after the light turns red before the cross light turns green. In multiple reviews, I'm getting a 3 count before the cops light turns green. He may be cutting it close on the yellow but he's also completely through the intersection before the green light comes. The law around here, as l was instructed by the person giving me my road test for my license, is that as long as you're in the intersection before the light turns red, you're good.

Maybe the law is different there, but the traffic judge seemed to agree.

Well, don't forget about peer review. That's the crucial thing that sets science apart from religion. No hypothesis becomes a theory until it's been road tested like a motherfucker. Since religion relies on "revealed wisdom," it can't possibly hope to keep up.

For instance, did you know that Galileo might have been wronged back in 1632 when he was ordered to stand trial in Rome for heresy?...and that this was revealed to the Pope...in 1992??

That's correct, it took 360 years for the Vatican to admit that the earth is not the center of the cosmos. Granted, there wasn't a lot of peer review happening in 1632...but it did happen eventually. More importantly, it happened in spite of religion, not because of it.

So with religion's impressive track record of getting it wrong, and more impressive foot-dragging, why should they be the authority about the age of the cosmos? Or condom use? Or homosexuality? They have proven themselves quite unable to do so.

Science is the one with the winning track record, fuckers.

atheos - without god

It's a metaphysical position, a denial that any deity exists. The redefinition of atheism is simply an attempt to shift the burden of proof by turning atheism from a positive to a negative claim. To say you lack belief is simply an obfuscation of your true position. If you are unwilling to say God does not exist, you are an agnostic and not an atheist. There is no inbetween; you have a belief about the existence of God, which is that either you don't believe it, or you don't know.


>> ^shuac:
It's less a re-definition and more of a course correction. Compare atheism to similar words:
amoral = without morals.
atypical = without type.
apathy = without pathos. More specifically, without empathy or sympathy.
agnostic = without gnosis (greek: knowledge).
So let's talk about what theism is, since atheism is without it. Theism, as I understand it, is the belief that at least one deity exists.
So there you go. I credit the internet for this course correction, since most popular dictionaries usually define an atheist incorrectly by claiming it is someone who believes there is/can be no god. You're free to do that too, shiny. Your comfort level at being wrong is well road-tested, clearly.

It's less a re-definition and more of a course correction. Compare atheism to similar words:

amoral = without morals.
atypical = without type.
apathy = without pathos. More specifically, without empathy or sympathy.
agnostic = without gnosis (greek: knowledge).

So let's talk about what theism is, since atheism is without it. Theism, as I understand it, is the belief that at least one deity exists.

So there you go. I credit the internet for this course correction, since most popular dictionaries usually define an atheist incorrectly by claiming it is someone who believes there is/can be no god. You're free to do that too, shiny. Your comfort level at being wrong is well road-tested, clearly.

>> ^choggie:
Westy....In the U.S., pharmaceutical abuse combined with drink drive kills more people than anything else on the road. Were it simply drink drive(not at all advocating it), the numbers would drop drastically.
Factor out the people too fucked up and too stupid to live, speeding is not a major cause of accidents. Stupidity and lack of skill and awareness in combination with vehicle type and condition of the same, more likely the culprit.

I live in a county(not a country) of nearly 7 million people, a good number of whom are driving illegally with the inability to afford insurance or to properly maintain their vehicles, many of whom are from our 3rd world neighbors to the South (Mexico) where driving rules are as sketchy as the motorists abilities or familiarity with U.S. motoring decorum...FACTOR IN CELL-PHONE ADDICTION which more than likely kills more dumb-asses than speeding!!
A solution to the problem??? Mandatory courses akin to the training and skills needed for professional drivers-A road test that involves navigating a variety of hazards, an obstacle course if you will. Dis-allow the majority of idiots who need not be on the road to have fucking licenses , and the shit polices itself...AND, there's more room for me, who wants to go as rapidly or as slowly as I have the skills and desire to as I will.



I dont think better training will do the trick , the fact is driving a car within the speed limit is ridiculously easy , driving a race car or a car at high speed is an almost compelaty different skill to driving within the speed limit. there was a sudy in the uk that found drives that did the advance driving stuff were more likely to have accidents because they were overconfident. obviously this might be different if everyone had to take an advanced test. because at the moment Manny of the people that do advanced tests will be doing it cos they r boy racers , or people that want to show of.

but yah drink driving using phones and all these things should have much higher penalties maby a ban for a week and a fine the first time you are cought.

driving slower would definalty help , but i think giving space is far more important than say 15mph , especially on a motorway.

If you have space between you and other people there is far more time and space to react + its just harder to hit things if your not near annything.

I can't make much sense of either of your comments.

>> ^sallyjune:
Oh my, you are talking about mass meta-programming, first you have to take over a radio or television station, or stage a series media events-Mobs do not form until mobilized with a common purpose-Start with traffic fine protests in the US, everyone has to drive, and the bulk of the fines are exacted from the poor, check-to-checkers. Uhhh, over 60% I'm guessing, and most of these are non-white. Profiling is alive and well, check any large US county's jail on any given night- Blacks, Hispanic, Asian, a few whites.

Stop feeding parking meters.
When it is safe to drive, drive. Traffic signals and warning signs are for people who do not know their terrain. In turn, license only drivers who can pass a rigorous, professional, road test. Require re-certification every 2 years. Eliminate red light cameras, replace them with people who give a damn about safe roads, where alcohol is not blamed for a fatality on the news, without mentioning that the combination of PharMaceuTicalS and booze, and the interaction of the two, was the real culprit. Hold the pharmy folks accountable. In kind, hold the Education systems and the medical establishment responsible for allowing sick people who don't know how not to eat the poison the major agri-businesses and food manufacturers crankout, leach, boil, fortify, and shit out, fill the beds-Oh, eliminate insurance companies altogether. Make their operation a criminal act, use Rico to bury them all.
It goes on, and on, and on like this until your brain explodes.

Oh my, you are talking about mass meta-programming, first you have to take over a radio or television station, or stage a series media events-Mobs do not form until mobilized with a common purpose-Start with traffic fine protests in the US, everyone has to drive, and the bulk of the fines are exacted from the poor, check-to-checkers. Uhhh, over 60% I'm guessing, and most of these are non-white. Profiling is alive and well, check any large US county's jail on any given night- Blacks, Hispanic, Asian, a few whites.

Stop feeding parking meters.
When it is safe to drive, drive. Traffic signals and warning signs are for people who do not know their terrain. In turn, license only drivers who can pass a rigorous, professional, road test. Require re-certification every 2 years. Eliminate red light cameras, replace them with people who give a damn about safe roads, where alcohol is not blamed for a fatality on the news, without mentioning that the combination of PharMaceuTicalS and booze, and the interaction of the two, was the real culprit. Hold the pharmy folks accountable. In kind, hold the Education systems and the medical establishment responsible for allowing sick people who don't know how not to eat the poison the major agri-businesses and food manufacturers crankout, leach, boil, fortify, and shit out, fill the beds-Oh, eliminate insurance companies altogether. Make their operation a criminal act, use Rico to bury them all.

It goes on, and on, and on like this until your brain explodes.

Thanks. Discarded.

In reply to this comment by Bullard:
This is a dupe http://www.videosift.com/video/Messing-with-Drivers-Ed-Instructors

>> ^MarineGunrock:
That's a VERY misleading title, Krupo. You should be ashamed!


Yes. I should, except for the accurate part.