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Who do you blame for the election results? (User Poll by newtboy)

enoch says...

blame?

i don't know if i would use such a charged word to describe a very and nuanced question.i think there is plenty of blame to go around,and it is never quite as simple as the media soundbytes we are all subjected to on a daily basis.

who do i blame most?
democrats..hands down.

but there are other factors that all served to produce this circus of an election cycle.

1.the failure of the left to actually understand just how frustrated and angry the working class had become.those people may be politically unsophisticated,but they are not dumb.

this really had very little to do with republican vs democrat.this was a large portion of the american population that had simply become fed up with a system that they finally understood had thrown them overboard decades ago.many of the people who voted for trump also voted for obama..TWICE..because they wanted to see "change" and what they got nothing,zip,zilch,zero,nada.

they simply refused to play charlie brown to the democrats lucy.

2.the DNC and debbie wasserman shultz,may she burn in hell for eternity.
this woman singlehandedly secured the nomination for clinton,while blocking a sanders nomination.

remember laurence lessig?
well,don't feel bad if you don't,because wasserman and the DNC kept changing the rules of application so lessig couldn't even get on the primary ballot.

the DNC basically said to the sanders supporters "sanders? fuck you! you get hillary and will like it".

3.the ultra left liberals,for being so sensitive and touchy (don't get mad,you guys are way too soft skinned) that they restrict their interactions in these weird,singular echo chambers.where everybody is agreeing with each other and nobody is challenging anything,no critical examination.

so when trump won.
they damn near lost their minds in shock!
because anybody who may have shed some actual light on the situation was already blocked or on ignore.

4.the republican party,who hated trump but allowed him to fan the flames of dissent with his bombastic speeches,emotionally charged rhetoric and divisive language.

they let this go on for almost a year,and while publicly denounced trump,privately sought a way to capture his thunder.

want carson?.....nope
cruz?...nope.
kasich?..nope.

because just like the left,they too,had misjudged just how pissed off people were in regards to our political system,and their plan backfired.

5.the democratic party for allowing such a shit candidate,and just like the republicans,not fully understanding just how pissed the electorate was.

6.the corporate media,who sought solely to profit from the election by giving us all this mish mash of reality tv,wrestling and days of our lives.they didnt report the issues,they fed the drama.

and every political pundit,every pollster,every opinion news mrs mcprettyface,got it FUCKING WRONG.

7.bernie bros who stayed home in protest,but this entire election was a protest vote.

so,
yeah..a lot of mitigating factors went into trumps win.

i didn't think he was going to win but i knew it was going to close,but i sure as fuck was not surprised.i was actually laughing at loud.

would you look at that...
my fellow countrymen just hit the nuclear option.
i didn't want a trump victory..no sir..but i have to admire the audacity of my fellow citizens to hit that shiny red button.

fuck you washington!

we live in interesting times my friends.
interesting and terrifying times.

and really...what would clinton have given us?
more of the same?
more wars and regime change?
more tax breaks for the super rich while children starve and more people become homeless?

i may find my fellow americans choice horrifying,but i have to respect it.
either way kids...something is gonna change.

I'm Not Scared of Donald Trump

Baristan says...

I agree with every thing he said.
I'll never vote Hillary. I'll never vote Trump.

Every election there is always some BS floating around about why we have to vote for an R or a D. The Supreme court one has been used several times before.

Enough is enough quit succumbing to their will continuing the rigged game. Never vote for anyone with an R or a D next to their name on the ballot. They are private clubs which control who can become the next president. Doing so will keep us stuck with the same shitty system we have today.

I would rather vote for Roseanne Barr or any other completely unqualified horror from beyond than continue to support the reality TV show we have today.

Voting for a third party is the only way my vote is not thrown away. If I support Clinton or Trump I lose this election and the next one as well.

Ripping apart soda cans with electromagnets in SLOW MOTION

eric3579 says...

Really cool science stuff although i find the presenters scripted over reaction annoying. I can watch reality tv if i want to see people being completely phony. end of rant.

The Single Most Uncomfortable Moment in TMNT.

ulysses1904 says...

I can be forgiven for thinking it's a non-sequitur that has been edited in for effect, the basis for reality TV shows.

Editing <> Reality

newtboy said:

The look on the kid's faces....priceless.

Coulter predicts Trump's rise to much laughter

Januari says...

I don't think anyone who ever thought it was (IS) ridiculous that a reality TV clown like Trump would be the nominee for president is an idiot.

The reality is in the general election Trump really is an awful candidate. Within the GOP his bigoted, misogynistic, USA cheer-leading really touched a nerve with the exact group you'd expect it too.

I think the sad surprise is that there are so many more of them in the GOP then we realized.

The Death Of National Geographic

newtboy says...

Yes.
"Story of God" with Morgan Freeman is NGTV's big production this month.
Right now, it's border wars, followed by 4 episodes of rocky mountain law, then drain the Bermuda triangle (at least a little bit about nature), then area 51:the CIA's secret, then bigfoot:the new evidence. It's all low quality 'reality TV' and conspiracy theory these days. So sad.

ant said:

I used to subscribe and read NG back in the 80s. What about NG channel on TV? Did they get bad too?

A Visibly DRUNK Sarah Palin's Response to Elizabeth Warren

newtboy says...

Irrelevance, perhaps. Anonymity, sadly not.
Instead, she's just announced her new 'court room' 'reality' TV show, I believe ironically called "the court of common sense".
I'm not sure how she'll have the time since she's busy raising all those bastardized grandchildren.

Lamanite said:

I'm glad this hypocrite cum dumpster has slid into irrelevancy.

Phreezdryd (Member Profile)

Limmy's Show - steel vs feathers

artician says...

I want to watch Lemmy's show now.

I've never understood the fascination with people wanting to watch other people act more ignorant than normal (all of reality TV), but there's something different about the tone in this that just kills me. I feel like it's the same philosophy as reality TV, but something about that presentation, the subject and patient, sad, lack of mockery and silent sympathy that accompanies Lemmy's confusion that ropes me in. Too tickled not to say something positive about that.

Clinton Campaign:Whatever you can get away with just do it

shagen454 says...

Yeah, I feel like Bernie's campaign isn't as strong due to people letting the mainstream media tell them that he isn't going to win. Then people start looking at the fact that they don't want a racist, misogynist, arrogant, homophobe, reality-TV celebrity who is also just a straight up 1 percenting rich prick as their president, so they vote for Capitol Hillcake Clinton.

People also forget that Bill Clinton helped deregulate Wall Street (which helped cause the market crash in 2008) and you better bet that Hillcakes is sharing that same bed with Wall Street while Bill takes his Wall Street allowance and sneaks off for a 2am blowjob from a fancy $3k/hr escort.

All of these people are straight up hustler/villains except for good old Bernie.

newtboy said:

I agree it's not so much a reflection of Hillary that some underlings do this, but it is a reflection of each candidate how they handle it when it comes to light. As far as I can tell, she has done nothing about this...which is the same story for almost every other candidate that's had a supporter cause a 'scandal'. Oddly, the only one I've heard publicly rebuke a supporter and fire them was Cruz, who's campaign has been one of the worst, least truthful, and most vitriolic of any besides Trump.
Things aren't looking good for us politically, the only good choice is rapidly evaporating in favor of a 'the lesser of two evils' kind of choice.

why is the media ignoring the sanders campaign?

VoodooV says...

the problem is the primaries. Primaries are just simply a shitty system. End of story. The primaries are run by the RNC and the DNC and they don't give a fuck about your vote. The RNC wants anyone but Trump. Trump will not get the nod unless they make some behind the scenes deal that we never hear about. The DNC wants Hillary and it doesn't matter how popular Bernie is.

The RNC/DNC are private organizations and there is no law whatsoever that they are beholden to us.

As the founders warned...parties are bad. I'm not going to tell you that they're equally bad, because that's stupid...but they are both bad.

Reince Priebus and Debbie Wasserman Schultz are the problem and both organizations need to be dissolved, but the Constitution does protect the right to assemble. The person is supposed to matter..not party..not money. Maybe an amendment could be created banning political parties somehow, but insanely difficult to enforce. A lot of shit would go away if we got rid of money in elections though and made them 100 percent publicly funded. It's so much bullshit that we spend so much money on elections in the Internet age.

Just give each candidate their own website...no fancy ads or graphics..just a fucking open source free wiki site where each candidate can put whatever they want on it so people can visit and judge for themselves. Elections are not fucking reality TV shows. This should be a no-brainer.

Kid really sells Bogan Gate

How did Donald Trump get where he is? A Canadian POV

dannym3141 says...

I don't want to defend Gordon Ramsay, but describing him as a sweary loudmouth who owes his stature to reality TV is a bit of a stretch when he's got 15 odd Michelin stars and is a world renowned chef separate to any TV work he does.

Matthew, We're Going to Play The Sticker Game

gorillaman says...

As I understand it, he didn't hear anything from the producers after the first season. So it doesn't look favorable.

I like his build videos better than the show, though, and other assorted youtubery. He's been doing that a lot longer than he was a six-episode reality TV star, anyway.

But I would like to spend more time with Jamie the blacksmith...

mxxcon said:

Did his show get cancel or just delayed until the next season? I quiet liked it.

Armenian girl sing "Fifth Element" Opera live on The Voice.



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