>> ^Quboid:
>> ^Fletch:
. I suspect about 90% of cops aren't bad - and I suspect about 90% of people aren't bad.
That said, how sad is it that a cop not hassling a protester has become so rare to be noteworthy?


In my experiance police are really just bad. I think your 90% figure is close to 100% wrong. I'm not a criminal, But I've had to deal with them from time to time, many times about things that I wasn't the instagator of, and a few where it was me that f'd up .. They escalate all situations as soon as they show up! They lie anytime it suits them, they will put their lies in writing and play god with peoples lives and futures, based on their judgement of situations. They are power tripping Aholes who think that civilians are the enemy scum, there is nothing more imporatant to them than THIER safety and that THEY are shown respect.
Hell, if they are shown enough respect they might actually let crimes be forgiven (by them....our overlords).
And as it has been pointed out already, a video of a cop doing nothing evil is on the top 20 list of the sift. Yay.

6:20-6:30 he says Trayvon circled his car. Sounds very intimidating if true, but he never made mention of it that I remember in the 911 call and I think it's something you would note that this guy is outside your car circling it and reaching into his waist band.

Immediately following that he sounds like he's spit balling to me. He couldn't remember which of the TWO streets he was on in his neighbor hood.....

And in the 911 call you can hear him say "he's running" and then exit the vehicle and what sounds like fast-walking/running for a bit due to the wind and his breathing. He makes no mention of getting out to get an address that I can recall in the 911 tape.

8:40 ish, his recounting is much much slower than the time it took place on the 911 call. And I don't recall them asking him if he still wants a police officer.

8:50ish he brings up the "Are you following him?" question from dispatch and then telling him they don't need him to do that.

From the 911 he says he doesn't know the address of where he is. Matches up with his not seeing a street address. But there's two streets in his neighborhood it looks like on google map...so ...seems hinky to me. It's not an overly complex place to just give them landmarks to get to him if he had to.

Then he gives them his address and asks for the officer to call him so he can tell him where he's at.

11 and on sounds made up to me. At 14, someone coming out and him having a coherent conversation goes against witness testimony talking about him being in a daze and seeming out of it when they were talking to him.

So yeah, I think he's mixing enough truth with lies to make it really hard for someone to say otherwise. The tone of this video makes him sound somewhat reasonable, but on the 911 call he was muttering stuff under his breath and talking about assholes getting away and never getting caught...and lots of things not coming up in the 911 call that are in this video...again paint him as the victim when I think anyone else in the situation would have stated they were being circled and driven further away or not exitted the vehicle.

And on top of him perjuring himself along with his wife about how much money he had being off by 150k+ intentionally.......and the website he setup himself with graffiti on OSU black student center....and then all of his myspace accounts that he couldn't delete the content of making him sound like a thug himself and beating charges......

Can't help but feel his true nature came out the night he shot Trayvon and the rest of this is just his act to remain free. Good guy, whose not at all on a power trip or at all over-reacting like his past shows he does when he was brought up on assault charges against a cop, who just wanted to the right thing and protect his neighborhood.

As for trayvon looking around......everything in that video looks the same. He was probably f-in lost if it was getting dark....all of the houses/apartments/condos are the same color and mostly the same shape for most of the video.

Public schools aren't allowed to expel someone for truancy, they can fail you but not expel you. Not on that fact alone and I say as long as she was turning her work in who cares if she was there or not. When I went to school I regularly missed 20-30 days a year due to a chronic illness but I always did my work my parents would pick up my make up work I completed it and I never failed a single grade and had honors classes in junior high and high school.

>> ^MilkmanDan:

I don't see how this is a criminal / court issue at all.
If the school wants to kick her out, that would be their decision (it'd be a dick thing to do, but up to them). She is old enough to drop out, so the idea that the government can get entangled with "excessive truancy" is completely ridiculous.
If she isn't completing schoolwork, tell her that she may fail courses and therefore fail to graduate. But from the side that we're hearing here, it sounds like she is keeping up just fine.
Whatever the whole story is, it seems to be that it should be an issue between the school and the student. Judge needs to stop power-tripping.

I don't see how this is a criminal / court issue at all.

If the school wants to kick her out, that would be their decision (it'd be a dick thing to do, but up to them). She is old enough to drop out, so the idea that the government can get entangled with "excessive truancy" is completely ridiculous.

If she isn't completing schoolwork, tell her that she may fail courses and therefore fail to graduate. But from the side that we're hearing here, it sounds like she is keeping up just fine.

Whatever the whole story is, it seems to be that it should be an issue between the school and the student. Judge needs to stop power-tripping.

>> ^Fletch:

I didn't need any more reasons to hate cops. They are nothing but militarized, above-the-law goons nowadays. They are under-trained, shoot/tase/spray-first, hyper-testosteroned thugs whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for the city/county/state they work for. Police forces everywhere are rife with power-trip blowhards who simply can't function without a daily dose of "yes sir", "no sir", "anything you say sir". People who desire to become cops are often the very people who shouldn't be allowed to become cops because their reasons have little to do with "public service", and more to do with desiring power and longing for the respect they couldn't earn as a civilian.
Remember when a college degree was required to become a cop? They'll take anybody nowadays, as long as they can write tickets. They are nothing but paid witnesses, and absolutely worthless when it comes to "protect and serve".
O'Donnell is spot on.

(good book, btw)



"If you want something done right, you gotta do it yourself."

Some police forces now do extensive psychological profiling before hiring to eliminate exactly this kind of person. The problem is that almost everyone starts out normal, but after a few years on the job, they see the world differently. They become psychologically damaged by the job. They divide the world into "Police" and "others", and cease to see people as people, but as criminals. This division creates all sorts of hostility and misunderstanding, which combined with their incredible legal powers, results again and again in what you see here. If police could just admit that it's a severely traumatic job psychologically and accept help, the world would be a much better place.>> ^Fletch:

I didn't need any more reasons to hate cops. They are nothing but militarized, above-the-law goons nowadays. They are under-trained, shoot/tase/spray-first, hyper-testosteroned thugs whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for the city/county/state they work for. Police forces everywhere are rife with power-trip blowhards who simply can't function without a daily dose of "yes sir", "no sir", "anything you say sir". People who desire to become cops are often the very people who shouldn't be allowed to become cops because their reasons have little to do with "public service", and more to do with desiring power and longing for the respect they couldn't earn as a civilian.
Remember when a college degree was required to become a cop? They'll take anybody nowadays, as long as they can write tickets. They are nothing but paid witnesses, and absolutely worthless when it comes to "protect and serve".
O'Donnell is spot on.

(good book, btw)

I didn't need any more reasons to hate cops. They are nothing but militarized, above-the-law goons nowadays. They are under-trained, shoot/tase/spray-first, hyper-testosteroned thugs whose primary purpose is to raise revenue for the city/county/state they work for. Police forces everywhere are rife with power-trip blowhards who simply can't function without a daily dose of "yes sir", "no sir", "anything you say sir". People who desire to become cops are often the very people who shouldn't be allowed to become cops because their reasons have little to do with "public service", and more to do with desiring power and longing for the respect they couldn't earn as a civilian.

Remember when a college degree was required to become a cop? They'll take anybody nowadays, as long as they can write tickets. They are nothing but paid witnesses, and absolutely worthless when it comes to "protect and serve".

O'Donnell is spot on.

(good book, btw)

Talk about confirmation bias, check your own. I don't lump. I am very close to and have seen many instances of very admirable police officers. What I said was a) I understand her feelings; and b) police often abuse their power. You didn't ask, but yes, it does come from my own personal experience, from things that have happened to me, that I have witnessed first hand, and that have happened to family and friends. If you don't have any such experience, then check your priviledge too.>> ^hpqp:

tsk tsk on gross generalisations based on confirmation bias. For every case/video of a cop abusing their power there are thousands of cases of them just doing their jobs. I despise power abuse as much as the next person, especially when it's coming from someone who is supposed to represent and uphold the law, but I cannot stand the anti-cop bias which lumps them up as some giant, corrupt entity.
>> ^messenger:
She's really making an ass of herself, and I don't know the situation here in particular, but man, do I ever understand what she's feeling, mostly that cops so often go on power trips and act with absolute impunity.

tsk tsk on gross generalisations based on confirmation bias. For every case/video of a cop abusing their power there are thousands of cases of them just doing their jobs. I despise power abuse as much as the next person, especially when it's coming from someone who is supposed to represent and uphold the law, but I cannot stand the anti-cop bias which lumps them up as some giant, corrupt entity.

>> ^messenger:

She's really making an ass of herself, and I don't know the situation here in particular, but man, do I ever understand what she's feeling, mostly that cops so often go on power trips and act with absolute impunity.

She's really making an ass of herself, and I don't know the situation here in particular, but man, do I ever understand what she's feeling, mostly that cops so often go on power trips and act with absolute impunity.

I work in government and this is unfortunately the way it does work. If we didn't have the media and other social news outlets, government corruption would be far more corrupt than it already is.

This is a *terrible display of the power trips that some people in government think that they can (and sometimes do) get away with.

Then don't stand behind, stand in front of the cop,

Also what was said before she started taping?

Oh as for the cop feeling unsafe. Fuck that he has a gun, teaser, body vest and 2 other cops are there. Yea he "feels" unsafe, it took all of 2 seconds to get the girl under his control.

He is either insecure or oh a power hungry power trip. I'd say power trip.

"All across America"... there is what 15 girls at that 'ball'... what a power trip for the fathers... ugh...

If you want to remain a virgin thats fine... but the idea that your somehow 'more' pure or better than anyone else because of it... Gezzz what a mind-job.

You really do hear in their own words what it's all about... All about giving young girls confidence through self-righteous bullshit...

@5:18 the cop says the guy's making a mountain out a molehill. Um, pkb?

Man, power-tripping transit cops. Is there anything they can't do... which we could consider, you know, productive and useful. What a country.

OMG, 7:27, his logic is so backward. They make me feel unsafe with their madness.

And then they give him a hard time over his lisp?

The comedy comes in at 10:20 when you hear the guy's bbm ding's going through. They're bbm'ing for backup? Wow.

Good description of the zaniness at http://www.youtube.com/user/maxlightrail Glad the ACLU of Maryland is involved to represent him.

cops are like everyone else...some good, some suck really hard. same with doctors, plumbers, accountants, housewives, boyfriends, etc.
Altho...some professions which enable power trips, seem to attract more than their fair share of dooshbags. Congress for example...or lawyers, CEO's, presidents...hell, basically any position of power attracts those who seek power, and revel in its use. Let's face it...those attracted to power are often wield it in an incredible self-serving (ego boosting) manner. That being said, there are really good people in law enforcement who deal with an amazing amount of dooshbaggery on an every day basis, and i can empathize with their situation. but this girl wasn't the creme de la creme of dooshbaggery. she was just a wee bit dumb, or trying to go to jail.
cute tho.