I used to think anti-vaxxers were just morons but she talks about the fear of trusting in a system where certain fringes have exploited FUD to prey upon people who's only thought is the safety of their kids.

And only when the worst occurs, these poor bastards realise that the real danger is contracting the disease, and the FUD is distracting them from it...

Hopefully, this might leads others to reconsider their stance.

With that in mind here's a list of people that make me variously: scared, uncomfortable, upset and sometimes outright angry. I find it deeply unpleasant and sometimes disturbing to have to deal with them and I think life would be a lot better if we just locked them away.

Police
Politicians
Pro-lifers
Anyone who watches X-factor
Anyone who doesn't think the British royal family are murderous tyrants.
People who play music on their phone speakers on the bus/walking down the street.
People that use the term "free country" without irony.
The unregulated hyper rich over class.
Rugby players on a night out drinking.
People that advocate the death penalty.
Hyper nationalists.
Xenophobes, Racists and Homophobes.
The priesthood of amen/the brotherhood of shadow.
Young people in tracksuits/hoodies.
Anyone that uses the word "party" as a verb.
Practising Christians, Muslims and Jews (doubly so if they are raising their children religiously).
Hyper-Atheists.
Chimpanzees! (seriously, fuck the chimps they scare the shit out of me)
People that use the phrase "I just don't give a fuck" and actually mean it.
The Chinese scientists developing the "death robots" (you might laugh now....)

Whilst some are clearly more serious than others, all of the above represent things/traits which deeply concern me. Many of the people on that list I'd label as outright insane and/or seriously dangerous to my health and well being.

Some, were I to be confronted by them unexpectedly, would outright terrify me, much more so than that lady. There's a good chance that by simply responding with concern and a lack of antagonism she could have been talked down, but certainly pulling an incredulous expression and calling her a crazy lady is not likely to diffuse the situation one iota.

As I said before maybe she is a genuine danger to herself and others, such people do exist and there are systems in place to try and deal with it.

The issue here is that your not even remotely in a position to make that diagnosis, nor are any of us here. We don't know how serious her condition is or how likely she is to respond to various forms of treatment. Speculating based only on video's made during episodes (i.e. at her worst) with no context of her medical history just fuels the kind of knee jerk "lock them away" mindset that contributes heavily to these poor bastards getting the way they are in the 1st place.

For all you know a bit of in the community C.B.T. and mentoring might be all she needs/needed. Not everyone displaying psychotic symptoms benefits from or warrants full on institutional incarceration, it often makes things much worse.
She clearly needs/needed further investigation and perhaps having the benefit of her medical history and first hand interaction it might be reasonable to conclude that some form of isolation is needed. But I'd rather leave that down to those who are professionally qualified to make that judgement than bystanders who merely witnessed a few isolated psychotic episodes and know sweet F.A. about her as a person.

It's you that's failing to see the bigger picture here. You want to put her in a neat little box marked "crazy" so you don't have to face the implication that in some fundamental sense you are the same thing. The crazy person sits next to you on the bus and you think "I don't deserve to have to put up with this inconvenience. How dare they make me feel uncomfortable".......

....Do you have the remotest idea of the kind of deep lasting damage that does to a person when virtually everyone they ever meet thinks and behaves that way? How it feels for someone to just condemn you to be locked away without even attempting to understand what your all about?

It's only about 50 years ago that it was standard practice to basically label everything as just various forms of "madness" and lock them all away in the same building. While we've come along way there's still very much a ways to go and the public perception of acute psychotic illnesses is by far the most backwards.

If you'd said maybe she might need institutional treatment, or that you had concerns that the behaviour she displays could escalate to a violent incident (both legitimate concerns) then I wouldn't have reacted with such hostility.
But you didn't do that, you outright declared she that must be forcibly segregated and treated and moreover that she is definitely a danger to herself and others. No grey area, isolation is the only alternative!

I don't want this to descend into a personal attack, you might after all be a really nice person and this is a deeply rooted prejudice common to most people I come across. Much like many peoples homophobia isn't especially malicious it's just an unchallenged social convention (one fortunately that is changing).
But malicious or not the damage done is the same, for crazies, ethnic minorities and homosexuals alike. And I don't think its unfair to say that the "crazies" are the more vulnerable group by quite some margin.

You don't begrudge offering a little time and understanding for say a disabled person holding you up in a door way, why is taking a little step back when confronted with a "crazy" person so different? That postie clearly recognised she wasn't occupying the same reality as himself very quickly, but his response is to pull a face that says "what the fuck is your problem?" and just dismisses her as crazy. She might have calmed down and gone away peacefully in the space of a few mins if he'd tried to diffuse it, but he didn't, he escalated immediately. (because he's mentally ill too, just in a different way)
That's basically like someone getting in your way, you realizing its because they are in a wheel chair and then treating them like an arsehole because they had the indecency to be out in public and get in the way of the able bodied people! Those bloody cripples, they should be taken away for their own protection! (the fact the rest of us don't have to worry about dealing with them any more is just a bonus naturally )

Now obviously this is a somewhat flawed analogy as people with mobility impairments don't have heightened rates/likelihood of violent outbursts (though I'm sure there are plenty twats who just happen to be in wheelchairs). But the fundamental point I'm trying to make about how people treat the extravertly mentally ill stands. If your being directly threatened with no provocation is one thing, but this guy isn't he's just antagonising someone in a clear state of paranoia and delusion/misunderstanding (which he recognises within seconds). He doesn't even attempt to address that he just closes off and becomes passively hostile.
As I said before its understandable, but only in the same way as being frightened of homosexuality, alien cultures, physical disfigurement etc.. It's just cultural isolation, get to know a few people from any of those groups and it quickly starts to sublime into respect and understanding.

She didn't walk up to him screaming she walked up and firmly presented an accusation that the postman knew could not possibly have been true. She became aggressive/shouty only after he became dismissive, before that she was only restless and paranoid. And even then she didn't make any aggressive physical moves we can see. Postie doesn't look at all in fear for his safety to me, he turns his back on her several times and barely maintains eye contact, not the behaviour of someone that feels physically threatened!

How might she have reacted if postie had looked genuinely scared? Maybe she'd have backed off? Changed her attitude? And yeh maybe she'd have got even more threatening or attacked him with a stick too.

We don't know what she'd have done because we don't know her or anything about her other than a few paranoid videos on the internet. Leave the judgements to the people that have done the research, interviews etc. and know know what the fuck they are talking about with regards to this lady's condition and best treatment.

Speculation is one thing, outright declarations of fact is quite another. People are not guilty before you can prove their innocence...

Christ, no wonder he's all hunched back! Poor bastard needs a proper basement.

So they could answer the question:

"The justice dept has the power to do that and they make the judgement calls. My professional, or even personal, opinion on the matter is irrelevant. Our department cannot say where the line might be because we have no power to enforce that line"

Instead of prevaricating for minutes, they could have quite quickly and concisely pointed out who has the power to drop the hammer so that she could move on to them. She probably already knows the answer, but the only way to get it in the public view is to drag it out of poor bastards like that first guy who perpetually looked like a deer in headlights...

And to be blunt, if it costs him a little embarrassment, isn't that worthwhile to have the issue out in public?

Well now you are just moving the goal post. You said that being poor in the First World was better than living like 90% of the rest of the world, which I roundly refuted (with numbers and everything). I never made the claim that being impoverished in the First World was equivalent with being a victim of slave labour.

I also would never encourage someone to imagine that their life is worse than it is (the definition of the 'first world problems' meme). Rather, I was encouraging people to have some empathy for those that do find themselves impoverished in the First World instead of simply looking down on them and saying 'Could be worse, look at those poor bastards in China, so could you please stop whining now. It's killing my buzz.'

Victimization and psychological immaturity might be the cause of some people's poverty (or at least inability to escape it) but I think societal immaturity and economic Darwinism should carry more of that burden.

On the surface it seems cool, but think about it: this poor bastard spends all this time polishing around the outside of the Jade Gate.




Also, there's witnesses.

Wow, that was just fantastic. Not just that there is a guy that can spin something, but that there is a crew that do it. And they are good.

Can you imagine some poor bastard's first day? "Can you spin?" "Can I spin what?" "Oh, boy..."

Jesus, maybe the poor bastard just wanted somewhere to sleep the night!

You want to talk about unfair? This poor bastard died of AIDS from a blood transfusion. He was 35. That's some bullshit.

>> ^probie:

Hope it's better than Funny People. That movie sucked. 40 year old Virgin is the only thing Apatow's done so far that I liked.


You thought Funny People sucked?! Jesus you poor bastard.

>> ^mxxcon:

>> ^deathcow:
How long is it proper to mourn the great leader, how many times should I thrash my hands against the escalator in grief?
Until cameras and gov't observers go away?


I hope so. A part of me fears that these poor bastards aren't faking it.

Bear in mind that this is 0.0001% of the North Korean population, I'm sure most aren't like this.

Yep, those poor bastards, a little ceremony at the end of a grand slam - sure, but use some common sense, Djokovic collapsed after one lengthy rally, and his legs were buckling under him on other points, and while Nadal hid it better I'm sure he was exhausted as well. They should have called in some hot Swedish masseuses imho.

Bachelor film project 2011 from The Animation Workshop.

As long as anyone can remember, the coming of The Undertaker has meant the coming of death. Until one day the grim promise fails and tension builds as the God fearing townsfolk of Backwater wait for someone to die

By: Bo Mathorne, Tue T. Sørensen, Arthur Gil Larsen, Rie C. Nymand, Mads Simonsen, Thomas H. Grønlund, Esben Jacob Sloth, Martin Holm-Grevy

Bo Mathorne - Director
Arthur Gil Larsen - Animation Lead
Mads Simonsen - Technical director
Thomas Grønlund - Animator
Rie Nymand - Animator
Esben Sloth - Art Director
Martin Holm-Grevy - Environment lead
Tue Toft Sørensen - Animator

Music composed and performed by:
Sons of Perdition

Voice actors:
The Tramp: Zebulon Whatley
The Minister: Lucien Dodge
Bubba: Phillip Sacramento
Towns people: Laura Post

Supervisors:
Michelle Nardone - Production supervisor
Katrine Talks - Production supervisor
Jessie Roland - Animation supervisor
Christian Kuntz - Animatic supervisor
Patrick Voetberg - Editing supervisor
Sunit Parekh-Gaihede - CG supervisor
Jared Embley - Rigging supervisor
Thomas Christensen - Sound supervisor
Svend Nordby - Technical supervisor

Consultants:
Peter Albrechtsen - Sound design consultant
Michael Valeur - Story consultant
Andrew Harris - CG Consultant
Mads Juul - Animatic consultant
Saschka Unseld - 3D animatic consultant
Anna Kubik - 3D animatic consultant
Jericca Cleland - Story consultant
Marec Fritzinger - Design consultant
Tomm Moore - Design consultant
Lawrence Marvit - Design consultant
Niels Bach - Background consultant

Thanks to:
Lasse Niragira Rasmussen - Additional animation
Jeppe Bro Døcker - Additional animation
Morten Thorning - Moral guidance
Oliver Kirchhoff - Scripting
Those Poor Bastards - Inspiration
Robert Bennett - Voice work
Lostandtaken.com - Textures
Friends and family

>> ^ChaosEngine:

Imagine the poor bastard who has to follow that...


I brought a horsey. Naaaa --aaaaay.

Imagine the poor bastard who has to follow that...