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the value of whataboutism

xceed says...

Sadly, he (hopefully not willfully) has missed the point of "Whataboutism" entirely. The issue is not saying "what about..." this other thing about the thing we are talking about, but rather, when you say "what about..." this thing about something entirely unrelated. As an example, from his video, If someone were to say "Jeeze, Bush really wasn't that bad", you would be fully within your rights to say "What about all the people he inadvertently killed?".

It's when you, for example, say "Trump is a lunatic" and the response is "Yeah, but what about how Hillary sold children for sex in a pizza shop" that people have a problem with. The current Republican way of handling anything tricky is to throw out some non-sequitur and hope it sticks, while never actually discussing the original topic.

Again, saying: "Hillary was the best Sec. State ever" and having some one say "Yeah, but what about Benghazi?" is perfectly acceptable and not at all what John Oliver et al. are complaining about.

On another note, the clips he showed relating to how democrats would love to have Bush back, are being interpreted without the understanding that they are being spoken in jest (ie. sarcasm). They don't really want him back they are just attempting levity in that they want to show how much they think Trump is unfit for office by saying that they would even take the buffoon back if they could get rid of him. This is not an approval of Bush, but a lesser of two definite evils thing.

Jon Stewart Goes Off On Chicago Deep Dish Pizza

shagen454 says...

Only thing that bothers me about Chicago deep-dish is how "fashionable" it has become (I'm looking at your SF) when really, it is no-where near as good as a thin, crisp slice of super greasy New York cheese. In SF there are tons of these places masquerading as fine-dining when the corner "New York" pizza shop down the block, playing metal to their pet cockroaches whilst stoned out of their minds make better pie for less.

One "slice" of Chicago deep-dish and I feel like I'm going to fall asleep from a heart-attack.

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