In 2000 I considered myself far left, yet I wasn't greedy when I voted for Ralph Nader. I didn't like the policies of Bush, and I didn't like the policies of Gore. But I liked the policies of Nader.

And it's well-known that if people had not voted for Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party, Gore would have won Florida. So quit blaming Nader and the people who voted for him.

>> ^chilaxe:
Rove was never a genius. His management of Bush's 2000 campaign caused Bush to lose, except that the far left got greedy and voted for Nader instead of Gore. Add any of Nader's votes to Gore's votes in the battleground states and Gore won by a long shot.

Below is a couple paragraphs about Christopher Booker, taken from an article titled "The patron saint of charlatans is again spreading dangerous misinformation".


For several years he has been waging a similar war against "warmist alarmists", by which he means climate scientists. Nine days ago, for instance, he attacked Michael Mann for publishing a paper that shows (alongside scores of other studies) that global temperatures do indeed follow the famous hockey-stick pattern: a moderate long-term cooling trend terminating in a sudden upward bend. Mann, Booker told his readers, had been "selective ... in his new data, excluding anything which confirmed the Medieval Warming". But Mann's paper, published in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, uses every uncluttered high-resolution proxy temperature record in the public domain. How did Booker trip up so badly? By using the claims of unqualified bloggers to refute peer-reviewed studies.

Under their guidance he routinely mistakes weather for climate and makes claims about the temperature record that bear no relation to the studies he cites. My favourite Booker column is the piece he wrote in February, titled "So it appears that Arctic ice isn't vanishing after all". In September 2007, he reported, "sea ice cover had shrunk to the lowest level ever recorded. But for some reason the warmists are less keen on the latest satellite findings, reported by the US National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration ... Its graph of northern hemisphere sea ice area, which shows the ice shrinking from 13,000 million sq km to just 4 million from the start of 2007 to October, also shows it now almost back to 13 million sq km". To reinforce this point, he helpfully republished the graph, showing that the ice had indeed expanded between September and January. The Sunday Telegraph continues to employ a man who cannot tell the difference between summer and winter.

But for the Wikipedia Professor of Gibberish, this patron saint of charlatans, even the seasons are negotiable. Booker remains right, whatever the evidence says. It is hard to think of any journalist - Melanie Phillips included - who has spread more misinformation. The world becomes even harder to navigate. You cannot trust the people who tell you whom to trust.

Full article can be found here.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/sep/23/controversiesinscience.health

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I'm not sure if that woman was one of them, but there's a section of the McCain base that believes the birth certificate provided by Obama is a forgery because a printed version was never presented - or something along those lines.

There's even a lawsuit in the works from Phillip Berg. He's the guy behind the Obamacrimes.com website. When the case is immediately thrown out of court and he's calling for appeal after appeal, it really shows how delusional people can be..

I'm sure this woman just hear hannity or limbaugh mention this though and now thinks it's seriously an issue.

Trying to calculate the odds of those two hands being dealt is really irrelevant, and it misses the significance of the video. At the time the video starts most of the X to 1 possibilities are canceled out, because neither player would be continuing unless they had good cards.

The significance of the hand is how extremely lucky both players were.

When the last card was turned over (an Ace of Diamonds) it was the best possible card for both of them. For Mabuchi it gave him the extremely rare hand of four aces, there was only one possible hand that could have beaten him, unfortunately the AD also gave Phillips that hand. A Royal flush is the rarest hand in the game.

As Mabuchi sat there after the river was turned over he wouldn't have been thinking there is only one hand that can beat me and that would make this a 1 in X billion event therefore the odds of me losing are 1 in X billion. If Phillips hadn't looked at his cards the odds would be 1 in 2162, but as I said most of those possibilities are cards that Phillips would have already folded.

Read Richard Hayes Phillips latest affidavit in the lawsuit against the Ohio Secretary of State.
http://moritzlaw.osu.edu/electionlaw/litigation/documents/Lincoln-ReplyAff2-9-17-08.pdf

Regarding the destruction of the 2004 ballots, I recommend reading this:
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2249.shtml

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As if having the middle name Hussein would link him to Saddam, somehow. I guess William Jefferson Clinton was related to Thomas Jefferson...or maybe George Jefferson? Ronald Wilson Reagan was related to Wilson-Phillips, the pop trio. And George Walker Bush is related to Walker, Texas Ranger. Or Satan.

This comment is too elite for you to understand, peon. Now go get John Kerry a baguette! Zut alors!

My favourite voiceover moment of his was for some dodgy Ryan Phillipe movie, can't remember which one, but he said, "When you kill people... they die." Who's gonna take over from him now I wonder, probably some inpressionist, although that'd be lame

i want to hug utah phillips today.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pine_tar_incident

From Wikipedia:

"In Major League Baseball lore, the Pine Tar Incident (also known as the Pine Tar Game) refers to a controversial incident that took place in an American League game played between the Kansas City Royals and New York Yankees on July 24, 1983.

Playing at New York's Yankee Stadium, the Royals were trailing 4-3 with two outs in the top of the ninth and U. L. Washington on first base. In the on deck circle, George Brett was heard remarking to a teammate, "Watch this baby fly" as he shook his bat. He then came to the plate and connected off Yankee reliever Rich "Goose" Gossage for a two-run home run and a 5-4 lead.

As Brett crossed the plate, New York manager Billy Martin approached home plate umpire Tim McClelland and requested that Brett's bat be examined. Earlier in the season, Martin and other members of the Yankees (most notably, third baseman Graig Nettles who, as a member of the Minnesota Twins, recalled a similar incident involving Thurman Munson) had noticed the amount of pine tar used by Brett, but Martin had chosen not to say anything until the home run. According to Nettles' autobiography, "Balls," Nettles claims that he actually informed Martin of the pine tar rule, as Nettles had previously undergone the same scrutiny with his own bat while with the Minnesota Twins.

With Brett watching from the dugout, McClelland and the rest of the umpiring crew inspected the bat. Measuring the bat against the width of home plate (which is 17 inches), they determined that the amount of pine tar on the bat's handle exceeded that allowed by Rule 1.10(b) of the Major League Baseball rule book, which read that 'a bat may not be covered by such a substance more than 18 inches from the tip of the handle.'

McClelland signaled that Brett's home run was nullified and the game over. An enraged Brett stormed out of the dugout to confront McClelland, and had to be physically restrained by Kansas City manager Dick Howser and his teammates. (As one commentator stated, 'Brett has become the first player in history to hit a game-losing home run.') Despite the furious protests of Brett and Howser, McClelland's ruling stood. The Royals protested the game ('TAR WARS!' blared a New York Post headline), and their protest was upheld by American League president Lee MacPhail. MacPhail (who coincidentally had once been the Yankees' chief executive) ruled that while the bat was illegal, it didn't violate the 'spirit of the rules.' He added that the bat was not 'altered to improve the distance factor,' and that the rules only provided for removal of the bat from the game, not calling the batter out. Baseball writer Bill James concurred, saying that, unlike other sports, 'in baseball, when you hit a double, that's a double.'

MacPhail ordered the game resumed with two out in the top of the ninth inning with the Royals up 5-4. He also ruled that Brett was to be ejected for his outburst.

On August 18 (a scheduled off day for both teams), the game was resumed from the point of Brett's home run, with about 1,200 fans in attendance. Martin symbolically protested the continuation of the game by putting pitcher Ron Guidry in center field and first baseman Don Mattingly at second base. Mattingly, a lefty, became the majors' first southpaw second baseman since Oakland's Gonzalo Marques [1] a decade earlier; there has been one only lefty middle infielder in a big-league game since (Thad Bosley, in 1987).[2]

Before the first pitch to Hal McRae (who followed Brett in the lineup), Martin challenged Brett's home run on the grounds that Brett had not touched all the bases, and maintained that there was no way for the umpires (a different crew than the one who worked July 24) to dispute this. But umpire Davey Phillips was ready for Martin, producing an affidavit signed by the July 24 umpires stating that Brett had indeed touched all the bases. An irate Martin continued to argue with the umpires and was ejected from the game. Yankees reliever George Frazier struck McRae out to finally end the top of the ninth, twenty-five days after it had begun. Dan Quisenberry then got New York out 1-2-3 in the bottom of the ninth to preserve the Royals' 5-4 win.

The bat is currently on display in the Baseball Hall of Fame, where it has been since 1987. During a broadcast of Mike & Mike in the Morning, ESPN analyst Tim Kurkjian stated that Brett used the bat for a few games after the incident until being cautioned that the bat would be useless if broken. Brett sold the bat to a collector for $25,000, had second thoughts, repurchased the bat for the exact same amount from the collector and then donated the bat to the Hall of Fame.


The winning pitcher for the Royals was reliever Mike Armstrong, who went 10-7 that year in 58 appearances, notching career highs in wins and games. In a 2006 interview, Armstrong said a angry Yankees fan threw a brick from an overpass at Kansas City's bus cracking the windshield as the Royals were leaving for the airport after the make up game. 'It was wild to go back to New York and play these four outs in a totally empty stadium' Armstrong said. 'I'm dressed in the uniform, and nobody's there'. Mike was still pitching baseball as recently as 2006 at age 52 in the Athens Area Men's Baseball league in Athens Ga, where he still has a fastball in the mid 80's."

Basically, this was a totally unprecedented event, in that (a) a super-old, completely outdated rule was dug up by an opposing manager, (b) it was upheld by the umpire, (c) the ruling was overturned and the game was resumed later on in the year. This has become the most famous event in George Brett's career, something he doesn't mind at all, considering that before this, he was most famous for suffering with hemorrhoids during the playoffs.

I know he doesn't care. We ALL know he doesn't care. But what makes this special to me is that someone spoke to the President's face and held back no punches. Even with the shitty reply Bush gave, he still had at least one person tell him to his face that his actions were not well-received.

Bush thinks history will judge him the most worthy of Presidents, who stood in the face of terror and never backed down. This one man let the President know that history will judge him as the worst President, who stood in the face of terror and showed it HE COULD BE MORE TERRORIZING. And for that, alone, I applaud this one man. As isolated as the incident was, at least there was one.

>> ^Biminim:
It makes no difference whether or not one person stands up and criticizes the man. He just doesn't care. Nor will he care. I've worked with people like him, as I'm sure many have, and he is one of those semi-sociopathic folks who really cannot begin to internalize any criticism, for to do so would lead him to contemplate many other things in his life that reflect poorly upon him. In the February, 2000, issue of Harper's Magazine, an article by Joe Conason and Kevin Phillips titled, "Notes on a Native Son," laid it all out regarding George W. Bush and his lifetime of failures from which he was rescued by his father and his father's wealthy and influential friends. Every single achievement of Bush's--Yale, Harvard Business School, the oil business, being an owner of the Texas Rangers, governor of Texas, the U.S. Presidency--has been made possible by the connections and influence of his father and his father's friends. He has done nothing on his own. He has nothing of which to be proud. How could you be proud if you had never been able to accomplish anything, anything, in your life without the shadow of your father looming over you? Some say that is one of the reasons why he blundered ahead with the Iraq War--so that he could escape his father's shadow, do something his dad didn't do, and be successful on his own terms. Well, he failed.
Look at how he chuckles, hitches up his shoulders, looks down at his supporters in the front row. He doesn't give a shit. That's why he won't apologize for anything. He'll never apologize, never say he's sorry, never admit to a mistake. That kind of person never does.

It makes no difference whether or not one person stands up and criticizes the man. He just doesn't care. Nor will he care. I've worked with people like him, as I'm sure many have, and he is one of those semi-sociopathic folks who really cannot begin to internalize any criticism, for to do so would lead him to contemplate many other things in his life that reflect poorly upon him. In the February, 2000, issue of Harper's Magazine, an article by Joe Conason and Kevin Phillips titled, "Notes on a Native Son," laid it all out regarding George W. Bush and his lifetime of failures from which he was rescued by his father and his father's wealthy and influential friends. Every single achievement of Bush's--Yale, Harvard Business School, the oil business, being an owner of the Texas Rangers, governor of Texas, the U.S. Presidency--has been made possible by the connections and influence of his father and his father's friends. He has done nothing on his own. He has nothing of which to be proud. How could you be proud if you had never been able to accomplish anything, anything, in your life without the shadow of your father looming over you? Some say that is one of the reasons why he blundered ahead with the Iraq War--so that he could escape his father's shadow, do something his dad didn't do, and be successful on his own terms. Well, he failed.
Look at how he chuckles, hitches up his shoulders, looks down at his supporters in the front row. He doesn't give a shit. That's why he won't apologize for anything. He'll never apologize, never say he's sorry, never admit to a mistake. That kind of person never does.

If Howard Phillips of the Constitution Party had not run for President, Gore would have ended up with more votes than Bush. So don't blame Nader.

You know who I blame? The MILLIONS of people who voted for Bush. Especially those who did it twice.

You know who else I blame? The idiot old fucks who accidentally voted for Pat Buchanan because the ballot was "too confusing." If it's too confusing, go home and sit on your hands, Grandma.

I also blame this entire ridiculous country for its elections that have no runoffs, even if the tally is split by one vote.

But I never blame Nader, because he doesn't deserve to be blamed.

>> ^chilaxe:
Whenever Nader complains about Bush, keep in mind without Nader, Gore would have easily beaten Bush. I think Nader needs to indicate he understands how wrong he was in order for his current predictions to be credible. Not even the Green party supports him anymore.

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