You know why the lawyer is crying; because the judge doesn't give a shit. The whole tone of that court is bullshit.

Now I'm going to use ad homimen against the quoted person below. Do you dislike the constitution; your comment would seem to put you in that category. This case is clear cut, the Judicial Branch in Nevada does not have the power to call that law what it is; bullshit. The balance of powers is not working, and it is clear in the judge’s tone of voice; "I wash my hands of this."

Read the 8th amendment.

Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Somehow I get the feeling that you would think the ultimatum imposed on Alan Turing was correct and immaculately moral. Read the following excerpt from Wikipedia. Turing’s ultimatum was chemical castration or imprisonment. Bear it in mind that this is the same era where Oppenheimer was persecuted for, what some would say, the same carelessness as Turing.

In January 1952 Turing picked up 19-year-old Arnold Murray outside a cinema in Manchester. After a lunch date, Turing invited Murray to spend the weekend with him at his house, an invitation which Murray accepted although he did not show up. The pair met again in Manchester the following Monday, when Murray agreed to accompany Turing to the latter's house. A few weeks later Murray visited Turing's house again, and apparently spent the night there.[38]

After Murray helped an accomplice to break into his house, Turing reported the crime to the police. During the investigation, Turing acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray. Homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at that time,[6] and so both were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, the same crime that Oscar Wilde had been convicted of more than fifty years earlier.[39]

Turing was given a choice between imprisonment and probation conditional on his agreement to undergo hormonal treatment designed to reduce libido. He accepted chemical castration via oestrogen hormone injections.[40] A side effect of the treatment caused him to grow breasts.

Turing's conviction led to the removal of his security clearance, and barred him from continuing with his cryptographic consultancy for GCHQ. At the time, there was acute public anxiety about spies and homosexual entrapment by Soviet agents,[41] because of the recent exposure of the first two members of the Cambridge Five, Guy Burgess and Donald Maclean, as KGB double agents. Turing was never accused of espionage but, as with all who had worked at Bletchley Park, was prevented from discussing his war work.[42]

Your way of thinking is outdated, outmaneuvered and better suited for the middle ages; also misogyny doesn't suit you.

>> ^fjules:

She got sentenced for life because she refused to have her name on the sex offenders list. Basically, it's her own fault.
"wtf with the crying lawyer?"
Good reason why women can't be lawyers.

"When the gods wish to punish us, they answer our prayers." -Oscar Wilde
>> ^longde:
I am now determined to volunteer and donate 2000 dollars to her campaign. Her nomination will be the best hope for america.

They are guilty of murder, and murder by proxy on two counts.

“When you assume, you make an ass out of u and me.”
~ Oscar Wilde on Assumption

http://uncyclopedia.wikia.com/wiki/Assume

Guess what, they can make you a murder too.

Yeah, the 'personhood' model and the cognitive machine model are each useful levels of detail for the same thing... the best one to use probably depends on what your application is.

I don't blame people, though, for holding views that I think have big costs for society... I think we're all in the same trap of limited human intelligence - them more so than us - and people will change their minds in the end.

Also, the libertarian in me says that society's lack of intelligence only has a cost on us if we let it (to some degree). Turing, for example, as much as I personally admire him for his genius, chose to take certain risks, and he lost the bet.

In January 1952 Turing picked up 19-year-old Arnold Murray outside a cinema in Manchester. After a lunch date, Turing invited Murray to spend the weekend with him at his house, an invitation which Murray accepted although he did not show up. The pair met again in Manchester the following Monday, when Murray agreed to accompany Turing to the latter's house. A few weeks later Murray visited Turing's house again, and apparently spent the night there.[32]

After Murray helped an accomplice to break into his house, Turing reported the crime to the police. During the investigation Turing acknowledged a sexual relationship with Murray. Homosexual acts were illegal in the United Kingdom at that time,[6] and so both were charged with gross indecency under Section 11 of the Criminal Law Amendment Act 1885, the same crime that Oscar Wilde had been convicted of more than fifty years earlier.[33] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alan_Turing#Conviction_for_gross_indecency

IMHO, it's reasonable to say a rationalist in his position wouldn't have been so careless with sexuality. I think we're often more empowered and capable of proactive behavior than we think we are, and viewing ourselves as victims is generally not necessary.



In reply to this comment by gorillaman:
You're better informed on the technology so I'm not going to argue your projections, but I wouldn't and haven't bet on them. It's funny, a basic assumption I've made in directing my life is that with a good diet and exercise, risk management and so on I'd make it to around 100, half that if I want to enjoy myself. If I thought I had a good chance (>50%) of surviving to the next millennium, say, that would drastically change almost every dimension of my life. So to that extent I sympathise with your attitude.

I disagree that calling a human a person is less valid than your input-output cognitive machine, which I absolutely accept to be an accurate description, itself no less valid than as a bundle of quarks and electrons, acting on even more fundamental mechanisms. One emerges from the next emerges from the next. Possessing a de facto consciousness I'm not too concerned with whether or why it really exists; illusory or real one seems to function as well as the other. So it's on that principle I interact with what I blindly assume are other similar minds.

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all my friends are going to be strangers - larry mcmurtry
beasts of no nation - uzadinma eweala (spelling is wrong)

currently im on an oscar wilde spreeeeeee

>> ^rasch187:
"It is through art, and through art only, that we can realize our perfection; through art and art only that we can shield ourselves from the sordid perils of actual existence."
-Oscar Wilde

as for highest ranking comments, look no further: http://www.v
ideosift.com/search?q=&t=c&u=&o=hivotes&vmin=&vmax=&sh=&l=&n=&b=&submit=Search



I would like to see more votes on the second-ranking comment. Its pure gold!

"It is through art, and through art only, that we can realize our perfection; through art and art only that we can shield ourselves from the sordid perils of actual existence."
-Oscar Wilde


as for highest ranking comments, look no further: http://www.videosift.com/search?q=&t=c&u=&o=hivotes&vmin=&vmax=&sh=&l=&n=&b=&submit=Search

"Patriotism is the virtue of the vicious." -Oscar Wilde

Checked out their debut album "Ordinary Riches" today, and I really liked what I heard. Pretty cool stuff, you should download it and give it a quick listen to check it out.

In reply to this comment by kronosposeidon:
Very nice. Her voice reminds me of Feist's. Can't go wrong with that.

Your Camera Obscura video reminded me of a video I'd been meaning to toss into the Sift:
http://www.videosift.com/video/Company-of-Thieves-Oscar-Wilde

* slapstick - kurt vonnegut
* bridge to terabithia - katherine peterson
* portrait of dorian gray - oscar wilde
* junkie - william s burroughs
* the captured - scott zesch
* mutant message downunder - marlo morgan
* all my friends are going to be strangers - larry mcmurtry
* beasts of no nation - uzodinma eweala
* a day in the life of ivan denisovich - alexander solzhenitsyn
* things fall apart - chinua achebe

I've searched for it as well and came up short. Let me know if you find anything.

In reply to this comment by rasch187:
I know this has been sifted before, but I can't find it with the search.

Favourites

1) Season - Spring, nothing better than that fresh smell in the air after shitty winter is through
2) Place in the world - Paris has the most atmosphere
3) Children's book - Matilda by Roald Dahl
4) TV Series - Lost, Spaced, Skins
5) Word - flibbertygibbet
6) Film - Hundreds, but a couple would be Donnie Darko and City of God
7) Curse - prick, cockwipe
Creature - Orangutan
9) Past time - Finding fun stuff for my brats to do so I can do other fun stuff
10)Person - My friend, she's weird and fabulous in equal measure

Which one?

11) Dog or cat - Dogs, cat's are bastards. I have 2, i'm fully aware
12) Sweet or savoury - Savoury
13) Cereal or Toast - Cereal
14) Tan or pale - Tan
15) Shoes or barefoot - Barefoot even when inappropriate
16) Desktop or laptop - Desktop
17) Drive or walk - Drive
18) Drama or comedy - There is more good comedy than good drama around, but when you get a decent drama that would win
19) Sex or food - Sex, burn some calories. Food, stuff my face. Sex, sex sex, more food.
20) Futurama or Simpsons - Easily Futurama

The Sift

21) Your fave personal submission - Lately it would have to be this http://www.videosift.com/video/Colin-Farrell-on-Jonathon-Ross
22) A great comment on one of your vids - Hahaha...this bitch is dumb. She's so dumb that she doesn't realize that his work with the Beatles has given him the "free pass". He could pretty much murder her on stage and walk away, a free man, as long as he followed it up with "And in the end, the love you take is equal to the love you make."

23) Most off the wall member - thepinky by far
24) Favourite user name - Octopussy, fissionchips
25) Your most used channel - Music
26) Personal dumbass moment - Completely missing the point of a post, giving it the large one with a comment about it, hence losing my mojo and making me temporarily want to die
27) Best avatar - Kulpim's old Star Trek avatar
28) Partner in crime - evil_disco obviously and a crush or two
29) Do people offline know of your sift problem- Yeahhh, my friends have no choice but be subjected to whatever i'm interested in at the time
30) Idea for the site - Removing some of siftbots comments would be great

About you

31) Where do you live - Dorset, UK
32) Smoker/non-smoker - Smoker, but barely
33) Left or right handed - Right
34) Hair colour - Dark brown
35) Relationship status - Single with affections
36) How tall - 5'4
37) Children - Two, girl 9 and boy nearly 6
38) Ever had an operation - yes, I have scars and everythin
39) Best feature - Personally i'd go with eyes
40) Use four words to describe yourself - stoner quit, still confused

If you could...what, who, when etc

41) Bring a famous person back from the dead - Oscar Wilde
42) Give 50 grand to any charity - UNICEF
43) Send someone on a one way ticket to the moon -
44) Relive a moment in your life - Finally managing to get my ex to fuck off
45) Have a superpower - Flight
46) Find out one thing you've always wanted to know - Is there life after death
47) Have the opposite gender deal with something you have to - Leaking copious amounts of breastmilk in public
48) Be president for one hour - Check the Area 51 files
49) Delete a period in history - The slave trade
50) Achieve one thing - To be a paramedic

I'm quite sure Schwarzkopf was the leader of the Army that left Saddam in power. And who was the president who decided Hussein wasn't a threat, because he left him in power? Some Democrat, probably. Right?

Bush 41 sought Failin's counsel on whether to get Saddam. Failin' sided with the worthless UN-types who said No. Schwarzy caved in but it wasn't his call to make. And Bush 41 lost the election for acting like a liberal.

How did Powell undermine the Iraq War, exactly?

See above.

Appeaser? You're actually going to call Obama that?

This guy wanted to pull out more than Oscar Wilde out of a vagina, and still does.

I know you enjoy skulking around like a sockpuppet of Sean Hannity, but seriously...an appeaser?

That's what Obama is: member of a racist church, appeaser, voter to the left of Ted Kennedy, no real legislative achievements, cult of personality.

I don't need Hannity or more than 1/4 of my brain to argue against liberal corruption. Report to Olbermann for debriefing.

"Popularity is the crown of laurel which the world puts on bad art. Whatever is popular is wrong."
- Oscar Wilde

congrats