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Starbucks meetup ends with handcuffs for 2 patrons

newtboy says...

If that was the policy, I could agree, but the corporate representative has said publicly that in that region it's their written policy that non customers can't use the rest room or loiter inside, and they set up the manager, unintentionally, to fail with their policies. It's horrific to me that, for following written policy, the manager is now fired.

Crazy that you, of all people, are arguing the manager in a privately owned business doesn't have the right to eject even customers, much less non customers. How can that work? Any place open to the public is now publicly owned? No business may prosecute anyone for trespassing? Even non customers? Or is it just franchise coffee shops? I've seen many a white punk asked to leave Denny's at 2am for no purchase, or for nursing their coffee for hours....I've been one.

The cops have said they asked the men at least 7 times to leave peacefully over a prolonged, disruptive time period, and they continuously refused. During that time, backup and a supervisor were called and had time to show up while the men remained seated, ignoring the police requests/commands.

How hard would it have been to just buy their own coffee instead of causing all this over obstinate refusal to respect the manager's requests because they're waiting for someone? How often would you expect that excuse, if accepted, to end with hours of free WiFi and restroom use but no sales? Seems to me they caused all this themselves, and had dozens of easy opportunities to avoid even being asked to leave, much less arrest, just by being a customer in the store they set up shop in.

Edit: and I shouldn't have said it had nothing to do with race, there's likely a racial component....it's not only or definitively about race.

All that said...please go ahead and boycott Starbucks, if not for this then because they're out of control and a near monopoly.

bobknight33 said:

I agree until your last paragraph. They were waiting for their friend(s) and they were early.

I personally don't like Starbucks. I do have to meet my boss there yearly ( yearly reviews) and often sit waiting 30 -- 40 minutes till my turn. I do not buy anything, never had. The place is mostly full but I am never harassed.

The store clerk was wrong. And the interaction between the police and the men could have been wrong. I do not know how the interaction went down. If they said their piece and disrespectful to the police then then sure escort them out.. But I don't think they were. Cops should have mediated between the store and the men.

The robot-proof job men aren't taking

newtboy says...

We had better hope they are dead wrong, and that they aren't robot proof jobs, because millennials aren't flocking to nursing, it's hard. If robots can't take over most of the work load (they can) then elder abuse will be the norm due to neglect. There will still be a need for human interaction (until the uncanny valley is bridged) but the grunt work can be automated.

Funny that they make this assumption about men's percieved ability to empathize, and ignore historical professional gender rolls that are only recently being challenged. Most of their points became culturally outdated in the 70's imo.

It's sad that the last woman, asking if nursing or men should change (implying men should) clearly still thinks "manly" men can't be empathetic and caring...should she be countered with the equally insulting "pretty" women can't be smart or strong? That thinking belongs back in the 1960's.

The robot-proof job men aren't taking

Vox: How job surveillance is transforming trucking in Americ

entr0py says...

Seems like a great regulation if you want to reduce needless road deaths.

I just wish they would do the same thing with the hospital industry, where doctors and nurses frequently work stupidly long shifts that they know cause accidents.

00Scud00 (Member Profile)

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

C-note says...

Every aspect of the police's behavior in this video is wrong, but what is the most disturbing is how they tell the nurse if what they are doing is illegal the courts will rule on that later after they have what they want and use it against the suspect. This shows the insidious nature of the heinous low levels which the abuse of power operates on.

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

shagen454 says...

If he really received those orders from his supervisor then it's pretty scary still that this fuckface did not have the common sense/decency to question that order when it was obvious the nurse was following protocol but was also stuck between policy & navigating an unfamiliar situation.

I sentence the pig to 6 months in a mental health facility and 2 DMT injections a week to diffuse his ego & expand his consciousness (and maybe he goes to hell once or twice).

Mordhaus said:

So it gets worse.

The person they wanted to draw the blood from is a reserve police officer himself, was not even a suspect in the crash, and only got involved in the crash because the other driver was a suspect fleeing from pursuit by other officers.

So they didn't even need the blood really.

Both the detective and his supervisor are suspended on admin review because the detective said he called his supervisor and was told to arrest the nurse.

Official statements and apologies from Mayor and Chief of Police: http://www.slcmayor.com/pressreleases/2017/9/1/statements-from-mayor-jackie-biskupski-and-salt-lake-city-police-department-chief-mike-brown-on-inciden
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newtboy (Member Profile)

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

Mordhaus says...

So it gets worse.

The person they wanted to draw the blood from is a reserve police officer himself, was not even a suspect in the crash, and only got involved in the crash because the other driver was a suspect fleeing from pursuit by other officers.

So they didn't even need the blood really.

Both the detective and his supervisor are suspended on admin review because the detective said he called his supervisor and was told to arrest the nurse.

Official statements and apologies from Mayor and Chief of Police: http://www.slcmayor.com/pressreleases/2017/9/1/statements-from-mayor-jackie-biskupski-and-salt-lake-city-police-department-chief-mike-brown-on-inciden
t-at-university-of-utah-medical-center

Nurse Arrested For Not Taking Unconscious Victim's Blood

worthwords says...

this is insane. Shopfloor nurse with print out of policy. If she took blood for non medical reasls without consent then she could be arrested for assault and battery.

newtboy (Member Profile)

"All white people are racist"

enoch says...

omg...
LMAOROFL...this is fucking hilarious!
the subtle *comedy is there if you look for it.

the entire room is a bunch of old white folk.was this presentation in a nursing home?
holy shit this is funny.

this little demon piggy is heading to paypal to give ashliegh some cash.
well done ashliegh...well done..



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