kulpims -- you're clearly madder than I am, but I too am astoundingly underwhelmed by what I'm seeing from Obama and team in this whole process of trying to address our economic issues. That's why I was tossing the question to the field, in the hopes of hearing some radical, but insightful ideas. Do you have one?

gwiz665 -- I'm worried about our debt levels too, but I don't think that's our "economic issue" right now. The problem is that our GDP is now shrinking, the economy is shedding jobs, and investors are too afraid to invest. If we don't turn that around, the problem won't be paying off our debt, but finding a way to feed people.

volumptuous -- I love that laundry list of issues, and I think that's a great set of ideas for fixing our "fairness gap" in this country. However, I think balancing budgets by cutting spending and raising taxes would just exacerbate our current problems.

Here's my radical, and hopefully insightful solution:

Immediately begin a program, modeled after the moon landings, to convert us to non-fossil fuels by 2020. We will spend multiple trillions of government money, funding research, and building infrastructure to suit the goal. We will invite foreign investment and foreign talent to assist, but we will maintain the patents on all technology developed.

This would leave us a world leader in the next great new wave of energy production, and leave us with not only a renewed industrial sector, but also a renewed educational and research infrastructure.

Fuck this nibbling around the edges with a sub-trillion dollar plan that doesn't have a central unifying theme.

We should consider a WWII level government program to pull us out of this, only this time we'll leave the war part out.

hey! lets have a music in history thread inspired by how terrible this was
ill start:
after museful consideration i have to say that i agree with homer simpsons assertion that rock attained perfection in 1974 and anything that i can think of is either 1)directly and obviously influenced by something from this era or 2) influenced by something influenced from this era
in 1974 you have: lou reed and the velvet underground, the ny dolls, the kinks, stevie wonder, jackson 5, the rolling stones, frank zappa, patti smith, aretha franklin, david bowie, eric clapton, rod stewart, led zepplin, johnny cash, paul simon, neil young, bob dylan, and the waning days of the beatles... sure really really good things came before, but 74 seems like the perfect blending point of old and new. where the forces that were powerhouses and founding fathers of rock n roll met and mingled with the new wave and poof...

your turn go!

I see a new wave of googlebombing coming like none that have come before.

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>> ^shuac:
Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.


Hey, why is there plastic everywhere in here?

Their early work was a little too new wave for my tastes, but when Sports came out in '83, I think they really came into their own, commercially and artistically. The whole album has a clear, crisp sound, and a new sheen of consummate professionalism that really gives the songs a big boost. He's been compared to Elvis Costello, but I think Huey has a far much more bitter, cynical sense of humour.

>> ^rottenseed:
I was gonna say I dig the ska-checkered vans. Were you a rudie ydj?


That would imply that I was cool enough to know what rudies were at the time No, I was just your standard southern "new wave" misfit.

Is he singing "home" or "house" Hard to tell for my non english ears

I saw a documentary one norwegian tv last night about this "new" wave from seattle, and i decided to try sifting some of my favourites.

I'm unaware of any difference between New Wave and Bee Gees plus a drum machine =)

New Wave? I've always thought this track in particular sounded like the Bee Gees with a drum machine.

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I think the point is the imbalance in the type of role the Muslims stereotype is cast in, as Tom Stall pointed out, they are, more often than most other stereotypes cast as the role of the enemy.

The reason there is not a Jewish version of this video is because Jews in movies can also be sympathetic genocide victims, or intelligent problem solving types, or funny scene-stealers, or that cute guy the cute girls falls for in the latest 3 hankie chick flick sobfest... and yes, Germans in films are for the most part perpetually stuck in 1939-45 invading other countries and shouting 'Mein Furor' but they can also be punk rockers, composers, happy beer-swilling tourists, new wave musicians or esoteric art film directors... its not to say that these groups are not stereotyped in film, but their stereotypes have more variety, and fill many more roles than always being terrorists.

I think Farhad is right in that the Russians are the only group that can begin to compare in the treatment the Arabs have received from Hollywood, they are always baddies perpetually dubbed as 'those sneaky-fucking Russians'. Unless they are played by Sean Connery, then they get to be noble, but they still speak with a Scottish burr.

Shit, I never knew they were American. They sounded like so many other British New Wave bands of that era. Regardless of national origin, I so wanted to bone Astrid Plane. Just one more chapter from that book I've been working on.

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