In reply to this comment by wraith:
A question that always bothered me and that has almost nothing to do with this video: Why do so many African Americans think they have to go to Africa to find their roots? In Europe, in all countries except France, 99% of African people are really first or second generation immigrants from one of the dozens of Nations in Africa.

They have relatives living there.

I understand that.

African Americans have their roots as much in "Africa", as I have my roots in....I don't even know...Germany? France? Russia? Hungary?

I don't even know where my ancestors lived three hundred years ago.

And I don't care.

I don't get it.


I live in England and we are full of Americans & others who's ancestors came from here returning to trace their roots. Same in Scotland, Ireland, Wales and everywhere. It's not a black phenomenon. I as an official negro have no desire to return to my 'homeland'. But it's a pretty common unremarkable and universal human desire.

>> ^chingalera:

7 civil men...ladies couldn't make it. Two Negroes though, uppity ones!? What do want, it's 63'?


You obviously missed the fact that the moderator says he is joined by 7 men, when there are only six. I was NOT referring to the all male panel. Jeez, it gets SOOO tiring having to explain everything to those who actively look for a controversy.

7 civil men...ladies couldn't make it. Two Negroes though, uppity ones!? What do want, it's 63'?

>> ^direpickle:

>> ^chingalera:
Herbaderba herp herp derp berbergergerherba
What?


Ya, he forgot house negros, and "foot massage" negros. Dem boys some fine actors.

Yeah, take that Will Smith and Oprah. God forbid you guys can become superstars and multi-millionaires. You have to "stay genuine", and never change, even if it means staying dirt poor or mediocre. Conforming to some vague notion of "blackness" is more important than personal achievement.

And fuck Obama too, and Ursula Burns, and any other black person with talent, drive and determination, who happens to have charisma and appeals to other races. And god forbid someone undergoes personal transformation and change to succeed, especially in a society where the chips are stacked against them on day 1. No, it's better to know one's place.

Yeah, Barack, Ursula, Will and Oprah, even though you guys are actually transforming what it means to be african american and black by kicking down barriers, so that black kids can feel they can do anything and be anyone, FUCK YOU.

Will, you should still be rapping about Philly with the other ol' skool rappers on tour on the c-circuit. Oprah, you should still be doing "who's the father!!" shows and competing with Jerry Springer and Maury. Ursula, wasn't middle management enough? And Barack my man, you did much more good as a community organizer.

C, your premise and line of thinking is ridiculous. Can you explain to me what role is acceptable for a black man? You castigate Will Smith for being weak then complain about Samuel Jackson and Denzel Washington? These guys aren't flava flav for gods sake.

Please forgive me for not seeing your sarcasm, if that's what this is. >> ^chingalera:

When it comes right down to it, who really gives a fuck why Will Smith back-slapped a reporter, or why the reporter decided to kiss him. All that really matters is that Will Smith, one of the whitest black men in America, will never get any revenue from me, as I plan to download the film from many of my friends around the world who won;t shed a tear when Hollywood dies.
He can join the other list of sell-out negroes in Hollywood who have taken the $Bait$ and become masters of a weak stereotypical representation of the African-American male.
There's the ultimate hero negro: Denzel Washington, Jim Brown, (AKA, The Victim of Society Negro
The Superhero Negro: Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Laurence Fishburne
The Historical Hero negro Cuba Gooding Jr., Denzel Washington, Will Smith
The Sidekick negro-Sam Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Don Cheadle
Cop/Psychologist/Social Worker Negro-Sydney Poitier, Whoopi Goldberg
and then there's the , "Only African-American female to ever win an Academy Award for best actress getting ass-raped negress, Halle Berry
Fuck Will Smith, he's another total sell-out.

When it comes right down to it, who really gives a fuck why Will Smith back-slapped a reporter, or why the reporter decided to kiss him. All that really matters is that Will Smith, one of the whitest black men in America, will never get any revenue from me, as I plan to download the film from many of my friends around the world who won;t shed a tear when Hollywood dies.

He can join the other list of sell-out negroes in Hollywood who have taken the $Bait$ and become masters of a weak stereotypical representation of the African-American male.

There's the ultimate hero negro: Denzel Washington, Jim Brown, (AKA, The Victim of Society Negro
The Superhero Negro: Wesley Snipes, Samuel L. Jackson, Laurence Fishburne
The Historical Hero negro Cuba Gooding Jr., Denzel Washington, Will Smith
The Sidekick negro-Sam Jackson, Morgan Freeman, Don Cheadle
Cop/Psychologist/Social Worker Negro-Sydney Poitier, Whoopi Goldberg

and then there's the , "Only African-American female to ever win an Academy Award for best actress getting ass-raped negress, Halle Berry

Fuck Will Smith, he's another total sell-out.

If you had a little more empathy, you would see why people are so upset and angry. Anyone with a darker skinned kid is upset and concerned that murder can be so easy to commit and get away with.

And you're completely wrong when you say noone is looking at Zimmerman's side. For god's sake the guy killed a kid and he's walking free. The police and state attorneys were on his side from the start. They already said: "We can find no reason to arrest or charge Zimmerman".That's the problem. If they had arrested Zimmerman from the start none of the protest would have happened.>> ^Darkhand:

>> ^NetRunner:
I think this is part of the issue. The left's position isn't "off with Zimmerman's head!" it's "we demand a real criminal investigation!"
The people we're most mad at are the Florida police for looking the other way. I don't know if Zimmerman is guilty of a crime or not, but I'm pretty fucking sure that him shooting and killing an unarmed kid warranted more action from the police than what happened.
I don't understand why that isn't everyone's reaction. Why is the right fighting that...at all? Why has this turned into another partisan political spat?
Do you guys think killing people isn't a big deal?
>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
But you've all tried Zimmerman, convicted him, and are demanding his head on a platter based on jack-squat except a bunch of what can only be described as OPINION PIECES.

I'm not a birther but I feel the same way Winstonfield does too. Until the police say "We can find no reason to arrest or charge Zimmerman" everyone needs to be patient. Have Rallys and Prayer Vigils for the family but being so angry about it doesn't solve anything.
Killing people is a big deal and if Zimmerman wasn't defending himself then he needs to be tried and convicted as a criminal.
Let the prosecutor do her job and if she doesn't THEN hold her accountable. I feel like we've hit the "fast forwarded button" skip a year and George Zimmerman was released and the mayor presented him with a key to the and gave a speech about how Zimmerman is a great citizen for "stopping a dangerous negro".
People act like I'm defending Zimmerman when it will always seem that way because nobody else is looking at the other side of the case. Until this video came out we had no reason to NOT believe Zimmerman over what was in our individual hearts.
Now Zimmerman needs to pray that the hospital took photos of him or something looking really beat up or can explain away why in that video he looks perfectly fine.

>> ^NetRunner:

I think this is part of the issue. The left's position isn't "off with Zimmerman's head!" it's "we demand a real criminal investigation!"
The people we're most mad at are the Florida police for looking the other way. I don't know if Zimmerman is guilty of a crime or not, but I'm pretty fucking sure that him shooting and killing an unarmed kid warranted more action from the police than what happened.
I don't understand why that isn't everyone's reaction. Why is the right fighting that...at all? Why has this turned into another partisan political spat?
Do you guys think killing people isn't a big deal?
>> ^Winstonfield_Pennypacker:
But you've all tried Zimmerman, convicted him, and are demanding his head on a platter based on jack-squat except a bunch of what can only be described as OPINION PIECES.


I'm not a birther but I feel the same way Winstonfield does too. Until the police say "We can find no reason to arrest or charge Zimmerman" everyone needs to be patient. Have Rallys and Prayer Vigils for the family but being so angry about it doesn't solve anything.

Killing people is a big deal and if Zimmerman wasn't defending himself then he needs to be tried and convicted as a criminal.

Let the prosecutor do her job and if she doesn't THEN hold her accountable. I feel like we've hit the "fast forwarded button" skip a year and George Zimmerman was released and the mayor presented him with a key to the and gave a speech about how Zimmerman is a great citizen for "stopping a dangerous negro".

People act like I'm defending Zimmerman when it will always seem that way because nobody else is looking at the other side of the case. Until this video came out we had no reason to NOT believe Zimmerman over what was in our individual hearts.

Now Zimmerman needs to pray that the hospital took photos of him or something looking really beat up or can explain away why in that video he looks perfectly fine.

Alrighty
In reply to this comment by jubuttib:
Nah, I try to stay away from submitting stuff, I might get competitive and the last thing I need nowadays is more time spent on youtube. =)
In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuZghd4HD0 You should submit it then : I've seen him live, he's definitely my favourite, he has this presence you just can't explain unless you're in the same room. He is just incredibly intelligent, you come away feeling like you've really learnt something.
In reply to this comment by jubuttib:
>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^Fletch:
Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.

An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court

I don't know what you mean but he's from Georgia


He meant to say "Albany Negro".

Anyway, just watched that whole show, and by the time he got to the Sex and the City 2 stuff he was in my top 3 favorite stand ups. The final bit about his father though pushed him straight to number one.

Nah, I try to stay away from submitting stuff, I might get competitive and the last thing I need nowadays is more time spent on youtube. =)
In reply to this comment by alien_concept:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuZghd4HD0 You should submit it then : I've seen him live, he's definitely my favourite, he has this presence you just can't explain unless you're in the same room. He is just incredibly intelligent, you come away feeling like you've really learnt something.
In reply to this comment by jubuttib:
>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^Fletch:
Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.

An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court

I don't know what you mean but he's from Georgia


He meant to say "Albany Negro".

Anyway, just watched that whole show, and by the time he got to the Sex and the City 2 stuff he was in my top 3 favorite stand ups. The final bit about his father though pushed him straight to number one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMuZghd4HD0 You should submit it then I've seen him live, he's definitely my favourite, he has this presence you just can't explain unless you're in the same room. He is just incredibly intelligent, you come away feeling like you've really learnt something.
In reply to this comment by jubuttib:
>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^Fletch:
Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.

An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court

I don't know what you mean but he's from Georgia


He meant to say "Albany Negro".

Anyway, just watched that whole show, and by the time he got to the Sex and the City 2 stuff he was in my top 3 favorite stand ups. The final bit about his father though pushed him straight to number one.

>> ^alien_concept:

>> ^Payback:
>> ^Fletch:
Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.

An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court

I don't know what you mean but he's from Georgia


He meant to say "Albany Negro".

Anyway, just watched that whole show, and by the time he got to the Sex and the City 2 stuff he was in my top 3 favorite stand ups. The final bit about his father though pushed him straight to number one.

>> ^Payback:

>> ^Fletch:
Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.

An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court


I don't know what you mean but he's from Georgia

>> ^Fletch:

Never even heard of this guy until someone posted a vid of him last week. He's funny.


An Alabama Negro in Queen Fry's Court

Just some history of the 2 parties......Setting aside the fact the the KKK was formed by the all inclusive tent of the Democrats...to scare the southern brother who remained Republican up until the 60s.



The Democratic Party was formed in 1792, when supporters of Thomas Jefferson began using the name Republicans, or Jeffersonian Republicans, to emphasize its anti-aristocratic policies. It adopted its present name during the Presidency of Andrew Jackson in the 1830s. In the 1840s and '50s, the party was in conflict over extending slavery to the Western territories. Southern Democrats insisted on protecting slavery in all the territories while many Northern Democrats resisted. The party split over the slavery issue in 1860 at its Presidential convention in Charleston, South Carolina.

Northern Democrats nominated Stephen Douglas as their candidate, and Southern Democrats adopted a pro-slavery platform and nominated John C. Breckinridge in an election campaign that would be won by Abraham Lincoln and the newly formed Republican Party. After the Civil War, most white Southerners opposed Radical Reconstruction and the Republican Party's support of black civil and political rights.
The Democratic Party identified itself as the "white man's party" and demonized the Republican Party as being "Negro dominated," even though whites were in control. Determined to re-capture the South, Southern Democrats "redeemed" state after state -- sometimes peacefully, other times by fraud and violence. By 1877, when Reconstruction was officially over, the Democratic Party controlled every Southern state.

The South remained a one-party region until the Civil Rights movement began in the 1960s. Northern Democrats, most of whom had prejudicial attitudes towards blacks, offered no challenge to the discriminatory policies of the Southern Democrats.
One of the consequences of the Democratic victories in the South was that many Southern Congressmen and Senators were almost automatically re-elected every election. Due to the importance of seniority in the U.S. Congress, Southerners were able to control most of the committees in both houses of Congress and kill any civil rights legislation. Even though Franklin Delano Roosevelt was a Democrat, and a relatively liberal president during the 1930s and '40s, he rarely challenged the powerfully entrenched Southern bloc. When the House passed a federal anti-lynching bill several times in the 1930s, Southern senators filibustered it to death.

Link

>> ^VoodooV:

proof that conservatives will put aside their supposed morality at the drop of a hat just to oppose a black man



So who is opposing the Black Man? Which party enslaves the Black Man today? Democrats use the welfare system which keeps many enslaved into poverty. Republicans want to help those get out and become free men and women to make free choices for themselves.

If you give a man a fish you feed him for a day. If you teach a man to fish you feed him for a lifetime. Democrats want to feed the poor fish-sticks. Republicans want to teach how to fish.