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Oregon Cop Kicks Biker in Chest

newtboy says...

Really? That broke his collar bone?! It seemed like he barely connected, but if he won in court, I'm sure there was medical evidence.
How much did the jury award him? I hope a lot. Not for the kick, but for ramming him when he clearly only noticed the cop at the light, and then he immediately put his blinker on and even gave an "oh crap" head hang right before he stops and gets rammed.
I wonder if the cop even had his lights and siren on before then, since there's no sound we cant tell. He certainly wasn't up close enough to be heard on a loud motorcycle until the end, nor was he making his presence known before then.
Even if the bike wasn't stopping, he wasn't endangering anyone, so there was no reason to hit him, possibly seriously injuring or killing him, in the first place. Speeding is not a capital offence. Intentional vehicular homicide should be, even if you wear blue pants with a racing stripe.

Road rage and getting assaulted.

cason says...

Weaving through traffic on a motorcycle is one thing. Dangerous, of course, but for a car to shockingly keep up in pursuit, that requires a hell of a lot more reckless and dangerous driving.

Road rage and getting assaulted.

newtboy says...

Except that it's not shenanigans to lane split to the front at a light when on a bike, it's expected and legal, but it is shenanigans to jump back in front as a car just because you're butt hurt someone got in front of you, then swerve at the bike as if to kill him....and also serious shenanigans to chase him like you're Steve Macqueen because he turned your mirror slightly.
Perhaps you mean it's shenanigans to hit the douchebags mirror? I guess I can't say that's totally incorrect, and clearly didn't turn out well, but when someone tries to kill you (which is what happened as I see it), that's a fairly restrained response.
Florida is a concealed carry state, and a 'stand your ground' state as well. The biker could have shot that guy in my eyes after the first attempt to hit him at the very start, certainly when he cut him off and got out of the car, and justifiably, properly, and morally when the car started really trying to run him off the road.
(ps, I don't ride motorcycles)

Mordhaus said:

https://youtu.be/KrMTYz2CgCQ

Bit of shenanigans on both sides. Bike guy cut off car guy to go first at light, car guy upped the ante, bike guy slapped car guy's mirror. Then we get a lovely chase that endangered their lives and the lives of everyone else on the road.

Woman Accuses White Male of Stealing Her Cultural Hairstyle

newtboy says...

Oh yeah, I'm well aware that defending yourself can easily turn into a scene from a 70's kung fu movie with multiple attackers going after you for defending yourself...no matter how out of control the female attacker may be. There are many dumb, sexist douchebags out there just itching for a fight. My point is, there's absolutely no legitimate reason you can't defend yourself against a woman who's attacking you physically....idiot douchebags don't count as 'legitimate reasons' to me, but I don't disagree they're a consideration. EDIT: That said...I don't think black Rick Astley there would give me much pause.

My brother knows even better than I, he was attacked by a random angry drunk girl on the street in Austin, she threw her drink on him and sucker punched him in the face out of nowhere, over nothing (according to him), he slapped her, and woke up 5 minutes later face down on the sidewalk with a missing tooth and a broken motorcycle helmet, some 'bro' (read 'brah') sucker punched him in the back of the head and beat him with his own helmet, then probably went home to rape the drunk girl.

That said...if a woman wants to act like her sex isn't an issue and start a physical confrontation with someone much larger, they deserve the debilitating beat down they get and their sex and/or size should not be an issue. That's the logical outcome of believing in equality of the sexes in the eyes of the law.

hamsteralliance said:

Might wanna scan the horizon first for the kind of people who'd jump you for hitting a woman, even if she were stabbing you in the side and stealing your kidneys in broad daylight.

South African Police Officer on Bike Chasing Suspects

eric3579 says...

And the dude ends up getting away. That was pretty action packed, but firing your gun in a town at a moving car while on motorcycle. He must of thought he was playing a video game.

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Star Trek Beyond - Trailer 1

LiquidDrift says...

I could forgive some stylistic changes, but this is just too much. It's so tropey it looks like they put no effort into it. I can just hear the Fast and Furious idiot: "Yeah it needs ninjas, lasers, motorcycles, a guy hanging on a cliff, and lots and lots of space ships yeah!"

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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Canadian Election

Shepppard says...

There's a major difference between accepting religious freedom for ceremonial activities, and for safety practices.

I can understand and agree with them wearing anything they'd like while being in a ceremony as long as it's not disrespectful. What is effectively a scarf covering your face, to me, isn't disrespectful.

However, the argument that eastern religions should be allowed to not wear helmets on motorcycles because they don't want to take off their turbans is ludicrous.

Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Canadian Election

iaui says...

I get that niqabs are mostly just an implementation of aeons of patriarchy but they're still heavily entrenched in their culture. It's not just that they want to wear a niqab like some costume for some celebratory religious purpose during their citizenship ceremony, like they're putting on a motorcycle helmet just for the shit of it, but they wear a niqab _everywhere_ they go. They keep their bodies covered everywhere they go in public, for all of their lives, forever. Their niqab _is_ who they are. Their niqab _is_ a fundamental part of the citizenship they are declaring.

And as much as we might rail against it as being dehumanizing of a person to basically have their identity stripped in public, it's actually what the women want. And it's actually not up to us to make that decision for that culture. (I think in time things might change, especially if that culture is allowed to live side-by-side with ours.)

I think if it was some new-age religion, like someone is claiming to be 'jedi' and saying they're not allowed to show their face anywhere in public, well, if they actually lived that reality maybe they'd be allowed but I doubt it. But here we're talking about a fellow civilization with an equally storied history that has existed for many millennia alongside ours. And that can't just be thrown away because we think it should be.

ChaosEngine said:

Regarding the niqab, the rule should be pretty simple:

are you allowed take the citizenship oath while your face is covered (i.e. with a mask or a motorcycle helmet)?

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Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Canadian Election

ChaosEngine says...

Regarding the niqab, the rule should be pretty simple:

are you allowed take the citizenship oath while your face is covered (i.e. with a mask or a motorcycle helmet)?

If so, then there's no reason you shouldn't be allowed wear a niqab.

If not, then I don't give a shit what your imaginary friend tells you to wear; if you want to be a citizen of a country you must abide by its laws.

I really mean that. I have no problem with her wearing a niqab, provided it's not some special exemption for religious reasons.

the world is a bit less brighter today (Death Talk Post)

calvados says...

Schmawy was a friend I never met. He suggested it when I lived back east – said if we each drove a few hundred kilometres we could meet in the middle, somewhere in Vermont or like that. We never tried that expedition, probably because I didn't try hard enough, and eventually I moved west, and in emails we still sometimes mentioned the possibility of meeting. I thought we had decades in which to meet and that one day, very naturally, we would. No more.

As I wrote elsewhere, I didn't know that I would have a heavy heart over the loss of somebody I never saw in real life. Much as Dag said, I liked knowing the world had Schmawy in it. He was put there, it seemed to me, to balance out a great many who were indecent and unwise and dull – put there as if by a law of nature. You can see why I thought he'd be around for a long time.

I gather Schmawy wasn't much for talk of the afterlife, but he is one of the people I like to think I may see there. If I do, I'm sure we'll ride motorcycles, just as we would have done, could have done. Goodbye my friend. It's hard to believe you're gone.



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