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Its kind of comical how terrified american police officers always appear in these videos. The contrast between the police officer and the woman's composure is too much, they may want to consider improving their selection procedure and training techniques.

the elephant in the room, and no one wants to admit it right or left, is that the history of police /judicial systems has never been good. Im not saying it to advocate for anarchy but basically everywhere, always, police abuse their power, while preventing very little crime / providing justice. I dont pretend to know all of history, but I never get much of a response when I say this and I thinks its because power corrupts no matter what, and there will always be minority others to justify abusing. The very very best you can hope for is to have enough oversight so as to make the corruption spread out, obscure, and minimal but even then...

For a long time I thought the US police was at least more effective in closing cases but between the US getting its ass kicked in the drug war despite the militarized police and a report I saw about poor coordination across state lines leading to murders and missing persons cases going unresolved for decades

No, I looked into him and see he does put forth the dumbest of right wing conspiracies, like pizza gate, anti vaxing, 9/11 is a hoax, school shootings as false flag hoaxes, etc.
Then I looked at real DOJ missing person stats and noticed he's also bat shit insane with his numbers.

Not bothering with your link, but if a lefty says there's 10000 new child sex slaves in America every year, they're also idiots or liars...Swann is obviously, demonstrably both.
Political leaning doesn't make facts out of lies.

They don't get a bonus, they avoid a reprimand for not meeting quotas.

For profit prison means all those costs are more reason to lock people up, not reason to avoid imprisonment. Yes, it costs us, but makes money for police departments and prisons. The prison guard union is one of the most aggressive, well funded, and successful lobbies in Washington.
That's the profit he's talking about. No one pays for a recovered missing person, but there's money to be had incarcerating a pot smoker. Engage your brain before you spout ridiculousness....if you have the capability.

Oh really? Care to share your hard data on that claim? I've never heard of cops getting a bonus for solving one type of crime over another. Oh, right, because it doesn't happen. Maybe you're a drug offender and just pissed because you got caught. If anything, locking up drug offenders is MORE EXPENSIVE, because we pay to process them through the system, and then we have to pay to keep them in jail, or pay to send them to rehab programs, which usually DON'T work, which means they'll be back in the system AGAIN, costing us even MORE money. There's NO PROFIT in locking up criminal scumbags, dumbass. This is not the case with missing persons, because once you find a missing person, they go back to their families (if they're alive) and the cops move on to the next case, and those cops get paid the same the entire time they are looking for them. What profit are you talking about? Engage your fucking brain before speaking, peasant.

If these psychic's are so confident in their abilities, why not offer to help and only get paid if they find the missing person?

If solving missing persons cases was as profitable as locking up drug offenders, we wouldn't be seeing this video.

@NetRunner

You said: I've not heard anything about evidence collected from Martin's body though. Perhaps there's something there that would be able to definitively establish what happened.

And since I don't feel like wading through the quoting embeds and all that to pick everything out...that'll have to do.

The funeral director who handled Trayvon's body after the coroner said that his hands didn't look like he'd been in a fight. Although the funeral director was kind of an oddball, I don't know if I can take that assessment as true.

Although it does cast even more light on there being a lack of an investigation into Zimmerman. Few points stick out in respect to it:

1) Video cops handles him without gloves...I certainly wouldn't touch blood with my bare hands. And he would presumably be covered in blood from the shooting since he was under him when he shot.....right?

2) 911 Recording with "someone" shouting help, the shouting stops as soon as the shot is heard. Why would the shooter stop yelling for help if he'd just been beaten soundly?

3) Voice analysts can't match the shouter's voice with Zimmerman. Not conclusive, but another "questionable" aspect.

4) They never took Zimmerman's clothes as evidence.

5) They let Zimmerman out before they ever knew where all the following had taken place. They didn't walk through the events with Zimmerman until the next day. So they couldn't possibly have done a proper canvas for witnesses.

6) They didn't even know why Trayvon was in the neighborhood until the next day at the earliest when the missing persons report was filed.

7) Zimmerman followed in spite of what common sense would say for a regular person.

So this is where I'm coming from as I look at the case. And until I see some official reason as to why these things were done as they were that doesn't seem to fall under "cover up/incompetence/some other equally despicable thing"...I question.

My hope is that if they can't find a case against Zimmerman due to a evidence being long gone, is that they ask the same questions and bust that PD in a way that they are absolutely held liable for wrong doing with no defense. I just don't see it happening though with one government agency holding another one to the fire like that.

If this were a murder involving someone I knew, I'd be pissed that there is no official release to answer why they did what they did that made sense. So I can only be pissed on behalf of someone else out there who is left not knowing a damn thing and the person who did the killing is out with only spending a few hours answering questions.

I don't think any outcome will be satisfactory now. Too much stuff has gone wrong for anyone to feel that there is a proper outcome to the events of that night and since.

He never went to the hospital, he was said to have been wearing a red sweatshirt by witnesses. He was seen by paramedics, you'll notice one of the officers made note of him telling the paramedics that he was yelling for help in other reports.

He went to the hospital the day after according to lawyers.

And the time line is to be best of my ability to get times from various things.

7:30 police arrived
7:40 Martin declared dead
7:55 we see him show up on this tape
10PMish he was released.

So he was at the police station for a little over 2 hours....whole fiasco took about 3 hours.

He didn't walk police through the events until the next day.

Martin's parents filed missing person report on the 27th (day after event). Were informed of Trayvon's death on the 28th. So police hadn't even figured out Trayvon had some reason for being there until at least the 27th with the report being filed.

Best I can get from the information out there:

Around 7:30 the shooting had occurred and the police were just arriving.

7:40 they pronounce Trayvon dead.

7:55ish Zimmerman shows up at police station that we see on video.

10PM ish Zimmerman is released.

So, 7:30 to 7:55 is the amount of clean up and dress time Zimmerman had for his wounds at a maximum. But it's doubtful they were cleaning him up in the car...and it's doubtful they were cleaning him up immediately upon arriving. So, I think the 25 minutes becomes more like 10-15 for clean up.

So, what you see on that tape, if this time line is pretty close to actuality. He had very little clean up time for someone to be claiming a broken nose and repeatedly slamming of their head into concrete.

You DO see the police officer looking at the back of Zimmerman's head in the video.
You also see the police officer handling the clothing with no gloves on......presumably where blood would be if the back of his head being slammed and he shot up at his attacker.

They are also saying that the police took him from the scene against his wishes to go to the hospital, but that was not the claim prior to the video coming out that I can find. Prior to the video it was that he had been treated on the scene and was trying to cooperate with the police and went to the hospital the next day.

Also, Trayvon report supposedly had his full name and address on the morning of the 27th at like 3 AM. His father filed a missing person the 27th, and was informed of the death the 28th.

My biggest concern aside from the short 3 hour maximum window they spent with Zimmerman on this, they supposedly had him walk police through the events the next day, is that they hadn't even found out Trayvon's reason for being there until the 28th. That means they have a NW leader saying there's a non-resident there whom he killed. And they haven't even figured out by the time they let him go if Trayvon did have a reason to be there, because supposedly the house in the neighborhood was owned by Trayvon's father's fiancee. Oh, and they didn't take Zimmerman's clothes, I am just hoping they got pictures. Plus there is report of the lead investigator filing an affidavit that he didn't believe Zimmerman's story the night of the crime. SYG not only grants immunity, it also impairs the police ability to investigate to see if it actually was self defense to any degree of accuracy which pretty much means you're getting immunity unless there was someone left alive who witnessed the moments leading up to the shooting, the shooting, and survived long enough for police to arrive. So you go from witness of all events = crazed gun man/mass murder/whatever to no witness = Self Defense.

Hmm sounds close

It was a noir style film. Had a voice over almost like a Rod Serling short. It was about a guy that was walking home when a beam/brick/something fell from a building striking the sidewalk. A large piece of the sidewalk flew up and scratched his face. He then moved to a new city and started a new life.
I believe the film was done in a missing person report style.

hmmm I have no idea where I will find it. but I'm sure I first saw it here.

who knows.

>> ^holymackerel013:

Wow....hahahahaha! White people deserve to be made fun of. right?


In this area, yeah I'd say we deserve to be made fun of. It's true, when the missing person is attractive and the family supplies lots of photos and video, they get a hell of a lot more media coverage. And it's largely that coverage that inspires people to volunteer to search. I think it's sort of a princess rescuing impulse.

General rule of survival, strength in numbers. Never allow any one whom a guide is responsible for go alone anywhere.

Secondly, never, ever claim to be staying on schedule when there is a person from your party missing. You drop what you are doing and contact emergency authority seeking assistance in locating the missing person. In order to prevent the guide, and his company, from being made ass hats because they didn't follow preventive measures.

*promote the interesting