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Equality - e·qual·i·ty
/əˈkwälədē/
noun
the state of being equal, especially in status, rights, and opportunities.
"an organization aiming to promote racial equality"
synonyms: fairness, justness, equitability, impartiality, even-handedness, egalitarianism, equal rights, equal opportunities, nondiscrimination, justice, freedom, emancipation, coequality

It does not mean exact sameness, mirror image, clone, 50/50 split on everything, no difference, etc..... This is why it's important to know your own language, it helps you not be an imbecile.

Sage, thanks for the info. It makes sense now. Poppins didn't need a sequel. Alot of what made it special was its effects and charm for the time period. Doing the doppelganger mirror image trick now just made the movie creepy.

Look man, I always liked you. I usually disagree with you and I think you're kinda crazy. However, I admire your faith, your conviction. I'm a cynic because I'm a disappointed idealist, so you are a bit of my mirror image. But...
Dude, you still live on Planet Earth. You still partake in what I call 'the real world'. We both know The Donald doesn't even give a shit about god and we both should know he's not gonna improve this mortal coil.
Wolf in sheep's clothing.
I'm just sayin'

AHAAAAA...............FINALLY an explanation. I've seen many of these "mirror image" clips & often wondered why uploaders do that, now I know.

Cheers for that dude

'antagonistic, vitriolic style' newtboy???...That's rich, considering my motivation for letting the dogs out on the most recent foray into realms thought so sacred and impenetrable is directed at the very mirror image you look at every day but are still unable to see with repeated blows to the skull with a blunt instrument.

You "have to" ignore perhaps because you are unable to see the log-jam of compacted waste material that has shaped your world-view and has rendered you incapable of dealing with anyone who doesn't smell OK to you, or who walks and talks like yourself, or who ascribes to the same Kool-Aid ® drink you have so frequently injected into your throat-snatch to offer you the relief from thinking critically about the world you inhabit, the bed made for docile herd animals with the shit you've paid in blood for to tell you what to think to get along in the paradigm you find comfortable. Get yer college-money back, recant on your commitment to university loans, it's a huge, sinking boat yer on.

I don't have to imagine the foes of freedom of thought. They simply have to spew enough venom in my purview to be able to be recognized as the same old song-and-dance then FUCK with me, and they get my attention.

He certainly talked the talk, didn't he...

Then again, all this reminds me of the good old days (pre '68) when the Allied forces were still reading most of our (as in "German citizens'") mail and listening in to innumerable telephone calls, all by hand. Ahhh, those were the days...

To have all your communications analyzed and stored automatically by a bunch of algorithms running on a virtual machine in some remote basement is so awfully technocratic, don't you think? Desperatly needs a human touch.

On a more serious note: we've been fighting tooth and nail for almost a decade to get rid of telecom data retention over here, and to see the clandestine mirror image of it laid bare for all to see is... rejuvenating.

The Man will pay us a visit later this month. It'll be interesting to see if any of our officials have the balls to tell Obama how his NSA puts even the Stasi to shame, where surveillance is concerned.

You didn't like the room with the hooters, the trunk (with junk), a barrel, and a carpet? I thought it was glorious cheese! Clever in its inability to be subtle. The music and visuals are mirror images of the same brand of humor.

Longer version [with different music]:

http://videosift.com/video/Jumping-Spider-Dancing-with-its-Mirror-Image

>> ^VoodooV:

Or are you suggesting that the left just don't give a shit and say fuck'em if they don't be more reasonable, walk away from the negotiating table and commit to a 2nd American Civil War?

Mostly I'm saying the other side has already walked away from the table.

I don't really think they've quite committed to a full-on armed conflict yet, but I really feel like it's just a matter of time.
>> ^VoodooV:
When you step back and realize that all sides think the same thing about the other side, you start to realize just how absurd this shit is and that BOTH SIDES ARE FUCKED UP!!!! If you can't at least be aware of that absurdity...then we're doomed.


But we're not in some sort of mirror-image situation. When examining the policy proposals of Republicans, I generally think "bad policy that will make things get worse over time". Their view of us on the other hand is almost always some apocalyptic nonsense like "it will be the end of freedom," and we've even seen them talk about universal healthcare as if it'll be genocide.

I don't really think I (or the left generally) have all the right answers, or that our way of dealing with issues is the only way to do things. The right on the other hand is certain that their way isn't just the best way, it's the only morally acceptable way for things to be, and they are outraged, OUTRAGED that anyone thinks differently. They see their political preferences not as a mere point of view, but as if they are the natural order of things, and that people who want to do things differently are either a) fools who don't understand how the world works, or b) evil people trying to escape the consequences of their actions.

Mostly these days I think of conservatives as being in one giant cult.

Take a look at this, from Wikipedia's entry on cults:

Studies have identified a number of key steps in coercive persuasion:

• People are put in physical or emotionally distressing situations;
  
• Their problems are reduced to one simple explanation, which is repeatedly emphasized;
  
• They receive what seems to be unconditional love, acceptance, and attention from a charismatic leader or group;
  
• They get a new identity based on the group;
  
• They are subject to entrapment (isolation from friends, relatives and the mainstream culture) and their access to information is severely controlled.

People who have decided "both sides" are exactly the same will say "but the left is a cult too!" But that flies in the face of reality. What's the "one simple explanation" for everything that liberals have, and always repeat? Do they go around rejecting scientific studies, or economic statistics that don't come from an explicitly liberal source? Hell, is there any sort of strong sense of identity liberals have? Do we give unconditional acceptance to other liberals (hint: watch Cenk Uygur)?

I don't know how we get the right to change their ways, but we won't do it by pretending that the left can fix it by just changing their own behavior.

>> ^taranimator:

I dunno... While I appreciate all the flashier leaps and bounds made in robotics as you mention, the most exciting developments can often be more subtle. The little squid-like creature that moves by injecting air into its limbs and can fit under doors, for example, looks like nothing to most people but it actually has huge possibilities for future applications.
http://videosift.com/video/Robot-Without-a-Skeleton-Inspir
ed-by-Squid-Crawls-On-Land
Facial recognition, object recognition, all that jazz will take a long time to develop into something practical. In the meantime I think it's ok just to be amused by something so basic as not knowing how to decipher a mirror image. Remember back when Big Dog's precursors and other walking bots were hilariously inept? They're getting better all the time. The progression is what makes it cool.



yeah the projects you mentioned are all the things that I think are worth while , my point is really that there is no benefit taking this project out of a desktop pc might as well spend the time developing the software rather than arsing around sending it to a small pc in a shit robot.

My guess would be that he is developing some sort of kids toy with it which could work out ok.

the other video title is a perfect example of what annoys me "Robot becoming self aware?" just because its in a case with eyes and it can move around people and the media often think of it as a massive thing , where as certain things like Google are doing with there AI back end or the AI in some games is infinetly more intelligent and "aware" ( although obviously not aware at all) yet that gets ignored because its not in a cute plastic case.

I dunno... While I appreciate all the flashier leaps and bounds made in robotics as you mention, the most exciting developments can often be more subtle. The little squid-like creature that moves by injecting air into its limbs and can fit under doors, for example, looks like nothing to most people but it actually has huge possibilities for future applications.
http://videosift.com/video/Robot-Without-a-Skeleton-Inspired-by-Squid-Crawls-On-Land

Facial recognition, object recognition, all that jazz will take a long time to develop into something practical. In the meantime I think it's ok just to be amused by something so basic as not knowing how to decipher a mirror image. Remember back when Big Dog's precursors and other walking bots were hilariously inept? They're getting better all the time. The progression is what makes it cool.

@quantumushroom, I'm not old enough to remember things before FDR, much less the time of Jefferson.

I'm not old enough to remember Nixon either, but while I agree that he did found the EPA, I should point out he was a Republican, not a Democrat.

I guess the real difference between us is that I see America's progress over the period from the Civil War through to about 1968 or so as being mostly in the right direction. Increased individual rights, increased equality, increased prosperity, and a largely shared prosperity.

Sometime in the 1968-1980 period that started to break down. In the Reagan-era, I mostly just saw the pieces of what was the American Dream being hauled off and sold, with the rich keeping the proceeds.

My goal is not to see government controlling everything -- that's the mirror-image assumption again.

I would like to see us have a more generous set of welfare programs, like many European countries have. But that's not socialism, it's still capitalism, just like we've had since the country was founded. Socialism would be the government literally running everything, with private ownership of capital being illegal. The only place that still runs that way is North Korea, and I'm no more eager to emulate them than you are.

I don't like corporations using government to stamp out competition, or to line their pockets with subsidies and tax cuts, either. I just think the solution to that problem is to get corporations out of government, rather than government out of corporations.

I want to see everyone get richer, I just don't think that cutting taxes on the rich and abolishing environmental regulations helps anyone, not even the rich.

And I've definitely not "won" with millions of people unemployed, millions without health care, millions of children needing food stamps, and seeing our roads, bridges, and schools crumbling away, while the military budget keeps on going up and up and up.

You're winning! The public sector is shrinking! Corporate profits are at all-time highs! Union participation is at historic lows! Taxes collected are at historic lows! The Pentagon budget is bigger than ever, and we're at war with two countries!

The world outside your window is the result of your triumph! Aren't you happy?

@NetRunner

I'm genuinely surprised you would think the left has "lost" over the decades, especially after petty tyrant FDR rewrote the US Constitution, distorting the commerce clause to mean government can do anything it wants.

Then again, Jefferson said, "The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground," and that's EXACTLY what's happened. If Democrats create all of this big government (e.g. like Nixon creating the EPA) and Repubs do nothing to dismantle it and in fact vote to fund it, then effectively both sides are Democrats.

Don't you see? You've WON!

We are a few beats away from becoming a socialist outhouse like Europe. It's nice to declare that everything is "free" by birthright (and great for the politicians that promise it) EXCEPT when there are no more productive souls to pay for the phantasy. GREECE is the word.

>> ^NetRunner:

>>.

To me the worst part about a lot of right-wing assumptions about the left is that they assume we're their mirror image, and project their hostility, dishonesty, ruthlessness, and groupthink onto us.
The truth is, as a group we're too nice, too honest, too forgiving, and too independent, which is why the right ends up eating our lunch so often.
Oh yeah, and they deny that they've ever eaten our lunch. They insist on pretending to be some sort of oppressed underdog, even though they've been effectively running the show for as long as I've been alive.

Granted, I think the radicals in the GOP are definitely bigger douches than radicals in the left, but there's more of a mirror than you're suggesting. The left isn't susceptible to group think?! You're kidding me, right?

Where I do agree with you is the moderate branches on the right have gotten squeezed out of their own party more so than the left. But the radicals on both sides? They're both pretty bad.

>> ^NetRunner:

>> ^Yogi:
You continue to attribute the Left Wing to anything you disagree with and that's simply not the case.

To me the worst part about a lot of right-wing assumptions about the left is that they assume we're their mirror image, and project their hostility, dishonesty, ruthlessness, and groupthink onto us.
The truth is, as a group we're too nice, too honest, too forgiving, and too independent, which is why the right ends up eating our lunch so often.
Oh yeah, and they deny that they've ever eaten our lunch. They insist on pretending to be some sort of oppressed underdog, even though they've been effectively running the show for as long as I've been alive.

Thanks!

Would you believe I felt guilty about saying such mean things after I wrote it?

In reply to this comment by zombieater:
One of the best comments I've read in a long while. Absolutely.

In reply to this comment by NetRunner:
>> ^Yogi:

You continue to attribute the Left Wing to anything you disagree with and that's simply not the case.


To me the worst part about a lot of right-wing assumptions about the left is that they assume we're their mirror image, and project their hostility, dishonesty, ruthlessness, and groupthink onto us.

The truth is, as a group we're too nice, too honest, too forgiving, and too independent, which is why the right ends up eating our lunch so often.

Oh yeah, and they deny that they've ever eaten our lunch. They insist on pretending to be some sort of oppressed underdog, even though they've been effectively running the show for as long as I've been alive.