>> ^chingalera:

>> ^Deano:
Well what precisely is skillful about this clip? Looks like a guy doing interpretative dance - slowly.

Thia guy pretty much single-handedly fast-tracked western cultures on the road to Chinese martial arts development-As well as being an extremely fluid practitioner of Wing Chun, he was able to transmute the art across time and space in his lifetime to what we know of today as the evolution of Kung Fu.
It qualifies dude, take my word for it.


Like some other submissions the problem is the skill is implied but not shown. I'm sure the dude is awesome but we need to see him doing something awesome.

>> ^Deano:

Well what precisely is skillful about this clip? Looks like a guy doing interpretative dance - slowly.


Thia guy pretty much single-handedly fast-tracked western cultures on the road to Chinese martial arts development-As well as being an extremely fluid practitioner of Wing Chun, he was able to transmute the art across time and space in his lifetime to what we know of today as the evolution of Kung Fu.

It qualifies dude, take my word for it.

Wow. Looked liked mixed martial arts at times! Incredible.

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Best I can do! Formatting of comments can go horribly wrong...
I think Danny's replies are at the bottom but you can put them at the top. This is why the order here looks a bit odd.

Missing BR tag before "I know" by the way.


>> ^Locque:
I know, I've been studying martial arts for a long time, from teachers I now recognise to be charlatans, others I know now to be misguided, and guys now that currently have me convinced their style and training method is optimal. I'm not outright calling this fake- I don't know enough to do so. But I'd definitely be suspicious that the acting is being hammed up for the video to make the techniques appear more effective against a determined attacker than they might otherwise be in real life. Just as you guys say don't be so quick to dismiss, I'd counter with "Don't be so quick to believe." I've had teachers who could make me flinch in agony with little effort showcasing their techniques, but who I am pretty sure were we to meet right now, as out of shape as I am, I'd probably win if we fought.
On a lighter note: HELP! I'M TRAPPED IN HERE! SOMEONE TEACH ME ABOUT FORMATTING!


>> ^Deano:
My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.



>> ^dannym3141:
^ Yeah. I mean, imagine spending all of your waking hours learning that, in the same way as anyone else might have a job?

>> ^Deano:

My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.


>> ^dannym3141:

^ Yeah. I mean, imagine spending all of your waking hours learning that, in the same way as anyone else might have a job?



I know, I've been studying martial arts for a long time, from teachers I now recognise to be charlatans, others I know now to be misguided, and guys now that currently have me convinced their style and training method is optimal. I'm not outright calling this fake- I don't know enough to do so. But I'd definitely be suspicious that the acting is being hammed up for the video to make the techniques appear more effective against a determined attacker than they might otherwise be in real life. Just as you guys say don't be so quick to dismiss, I'd counter with "Don't be so quick to believe." I've had teachers who could make me flinch in agony with little effort showcasing their techniques, but who I am pretty sure were we to meet right now, as out of shape as I am, I'd probably win if we fought.
On a lighter note: HELP! I'M TRAPPED IN HERE! SOMEONE TEACH ME ABOUT FORMATTING!

>> ^Locque:

>> ^robv:
I'm no expert but it also looks real to me. My dad was always about pressure points. Which made for occasionally painful roughhousing. I wonder how this guy would handle the whole crazy knife wielding attacker thing -
http://videosift.com/video/What-knife-fights-are-really-like
>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.


>> ^dannym3141:
>> ^Locque:
This looks fake, or exaggerated to me. The constant flinching and dropping/groaning would make him a serious asshole for inflicting such pain unnecessarily, but it also seems reminiscent of the wing chun tap-tap-tap style of fighting, which isn't really effectve, afaik, although this guy seems to target perhaps more legitimate pressure points,but I wouldn't know, I'm far from an expert. Either way, this triggered my sceptic alarm.

I do think he's properly hitting the guy though. And he's hitting some pretty delicate places too. Catching the liver is seriously uncomfortable. I think the hits are real and i think the reactions are real but whether this would be any use i have no idea. I mean we can all have someone stand there whilst we hit them and cause pain, that's not the hard bit

Watch how he reacts when hit in the bicep. I've taken some heavy blows to the bicep like that while studying under some less legitimate teachers, and the reaction's never been as strong as it was for that guy. I'm such a novice that I honestly can't call this for being BS or ineffective, but this still has alarm bells ringing. Other stuff, like being punched in the ribs or smacked in the throat, are kinda no-brainers, they do hurt. Although the guy being repeatedly dropped by that punch in the abdomen through the shield still seems exaggerated.


My take is that one shouldn't be too quick to refute this. All my watching of martial arts/self-defence clips suggests that the highly trained know how to apply force precisely, quickly and very effectively.

http://videosift.com/video/Martial-Arts-Juggling-Acrobatics-and-Comedy-in-90-seconds

I posted this a year ago... their promo material.

While I heartily approve of violence against the Footy Show hosts, guests and/or audience, I'm gonna have to agree with Newman here (one sec.... gotta throw up.... ugh)

Anyway, did anyone watch the TKD at the olympics? It was utterly boring to watch. I've nothing against it as a martial art, but as a spectator sport it's really dull.

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Nice choreography. Why don't UFC fighters do all these things? Because they don't work. A kick with the instep is not going to do much damage, especially when someone is hopped up on drugs or adrenaline. The best self-defense moves are very simple, a strike to the eyes, a chop to the throat, a kick to the groin. A headbutt done before the first move works well. Jumping spinning kicks won't land 99% of the time.

On the other hand, this girl is far better equipped to defend herself than someone who has no training of this sort. Martial arts training will only help you be a better fighter, it will not necessarily make you invincible.

>> ^SDGundamX:

Years later, my brother and I got into mixed-martial arts and used to practice defending against knife attacks. We'd wear cheap white clothing and used red markers to simulate the knife. What we learned really quickly is that even if you successfully disarmed the simulated attacker, when you looked down you had probably been cut in at least 3 different places during the attempt.

I've done the same thing. Managed about a 30% success rate, where success is "cut, but probably not fatal". Of course, even that isn't real. Regardless of what you see in the movies even a small cut will change affect your defence.

This video confirms what I already suspected.

Back in high school me and a bunch of other students who got high enough PSAT scores got invited to go down to the Naval Academy in Annapolis to experience a weekend orientation of the academy. I bunked with a guy from Texas who was a black belt in karate. At the time I was really into Tae Kwon Do and we got to talking about martial arts in general. One of the other guys in our room asked us how to deal with an attacker with a knife and the karate guy without pause answers, "Run."

Everyone laughed until he lifted up his shirt and showed us this ugly red scar that goes from one side of his belly to the other. Apparently, some guy had talked trash to him out on the street one day and instead of walking away he faced off against the guy. The knife came out so fast he said he never saw it coming. He got hella lucky in that the slash wasn't deep enough to hit his internal organs and that the other dude just took off running after getting the one hit in, but he was still bleeding everywhere. Some other people nearby called an ambulance and got the kid to the hospital.

Years later, my brother and I got into mixed-martial arts and used to practice defending against knife attacks. We'd wear cheap white clothing and used red markers to simulate the knife. What we learned really quickly is that even if you successfully disarmed the simulated attacker, when you looked down you had probably been cut in at least 3 different places during the attempt.

So I agree with everything in this video. Someone comes at you with a knife, you're not necessarily fucked but you need to accept that in all likelihood you're going to get cut... and that even if you succeed in incapacitating the attacker there's still a good chance you'll bleed out from the cuts you took in the process before medical attention arrives.

He talks about the rage coming at you. That happens no matter if armed or unarmed so I guess all self defense is pointless since that rage coming at you is so impossible to deal with?

I was taught to run if you can when unarmed against a knife. Bruce Lee himself said something similar... We were also taught disarming techniques and the guys who were good could do this stuff real-time. Filipino martial arts are great for armed/unarmed combat with knives, sticks, longer knives and swords. The armed forces there still have to use their skills in real encounters and they train hard so it must help them.

>> ^ant:

Kareem Abdul Jabbar is a vampire!
It is weird to see him doing karate. He should ues basketballs or something as weapons!
Let's see Lakers' Kobe do this.


I believe he was a student of Lee's.
Even though I don't study Jeet Kun Do, I'm a big fan of Lee's philosophy in martial arts, especially the whole "be water" concept.