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$55,000 for 5,000 votes

newtboy says...

“The mainstream media continually insists on dealing with facts, and as we all know, facts are for liberals and progressives. Factual data is something that is diametrically opposed to the conservative movement.”- Marco Rubio
Fact checking is inherently liberal, since it deals in reality, so clearly he doesn't have a favorite.

kir_mokum said:

what is your fact checking organization of choice?

$55,000 for 5,000 votes

newtboy says...

Far leftist.....lol. Hardly....but i understand, all fact checking is far leftist in your eyes, because as the right said in 2016 " “The mainstream media continually insists on dealing with facts, and as we all know, facts are for liberals and progressives. Factual data is something that is diametrically opposed to the conservative movement.” - Marco Rubio
Also...
"It is a well known fact that reality has liberal bias." -Stephen Colbert

As if the dozens of debunked, blatantly faked videos they've been successfully sued or prosecuted over aren't enough.

Nothing could satisfy you, anything more honest than OAN or Glen Beck is far leftist and to be discarded.....and only Trump can be trusted.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2020/09/29/project-veritas-ilhan-omar/

https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/project-veritas/

I noticed you can't argue against a single point, not one, that they make in their case proving veritas is a lying, always fake propaganda wing of the far right....but it's never about facts or proof with you, just blank denial of any proof.
But this is how you argue facts...https://youtu.be/Jmrd1MbNkFs

bobknight33 said:

You are so duped. You post a link from a far leftest site. You stupid fool.

Find a real fact checker.
About SourceWatch

The Center for Media and Democracy (CMD) publishes SourceWatch, this collaborative, specialized encyclopedia of the people, organizations, and issues shaping the public agenda.

Doc Rivers

scheherazade says...

Good video.

I would criticize it the same way I would criticize fox news - it's myopic (in regards to the reference videos of protests).

Republicans aren't spewing fear about /those/ protests. They are worried about /these/ protests :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kZPeD2miyF8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zthJUf31MA
(Btw, I dig this dude's style. He's trying to be funny, but he's got more authentic coverage than most mainstream stuff I've seen.)

-scheherazade

Fox News Confirms Trump Called Vets "Suckers" and "Losers"

wtfcaniuse says...

I can see the reasoning behind your belief. The issue is that it stems from thinking the media YOU watch isn't fake or at the very least biased. You need to understand that mainstream media is biased but the sort of fringe media that you partake in (and others on the left) is pure unadulterated propaganda. If that is all you consume then you will have tunnel vision.

Lets agree some media wants Trump out and they are running stories that only show him in a bad light, twist the facts or outright lie in order to make him look bad.

What reason did they have to do similar stories on Trump's corruption, adultery and general cuntishness for decades before he was President?

bobknight33 said:

Sound like he has the smoking gun. Lets see it.

Yet not 1 FOX new clip confirming YTY.

Yet not 1 clip from any news source.

*Lies

2 more months of lies from secrete source or Anti Trumpers,"close aids" etc etc etc.

Trump hates blacks
Trump hates women
Trump hates Gays
Trump hates military
Trump hates poor people
Trump hates everyone.
Trump raped more woman
Trump watches other men F his wife and J Off.
Trump raped little boys
Trump raped little girls
Trump has perverted sex dungeon in secrete side room in WH and many on this properties.
Trump and Putin lies
Trump and China lies
Another investigation by Adam Schiff


Fake news has no choice but to super dump on Trump next 2 months because they know he will win by a land slide and they need to stop it by all means necessary.

Do You Regret All Your Lying?

newtboy says...

More like glass of weak tea calling the kettle black, buddy. Democrats and the mainstream media at it's worst aren't 1/10 the liars their far right extremist counterparts are.

Whataboutism based on pure lies and exaggerations by a repeatedly convicted con man and liar, the man you said has carte Blanche to lie whenever he pleases because only a moron tells the truth if it might hurt him, especially under oath.
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Even if that were true, which it is absolutely not, the media is comprised of tens of millions of people worldwide.
Giving you the benefit of pretending to accept your lie, that makes Trump, all on his little lonesome, as big a liar as tens of millions of people you call monstrous liars combined.

Still unbelievably full of shit and incapable of honesty.

Lol....nationalreview, as a source?!? Too funny, Bob. About as biased as they come. If they applied the same standards to any trump speech it wouldn't say he lies repeatedly, it would say he lies constantly when he's even coherent....but they don't apply the same standards, do they. I bet they repeat Trump's new brother lie, another blatantly false and undeniably racist attack on a politician of color. He can't help himself. What a turd you gleefully follow into the sewer.

Nationalist Geographic

cloudballoon says...

Isn't it ironic that the greatest country of FREEDOM!!!!!! in the world essentially got a binary system? Either the GOP or the Dem (the rest are more of a protest parties). That's just a tiny bit better than the Chinese's one party system.

The relatively painless solution is to create conditions to make 3-4 mainstream parties a reality. With kingmakers in the mostly centrist positions adapting populists policies that fit the IRL problems of the day instead of ideological lines of the hardline left/right.

Simply put: coalition government.

vil said:

Look for better ways to pick a leader? Find ways to adapt their party policies to suit the day and age? Find actual goals for society to promote instead of just being conservative or ayn rand for the sake of it (or rather for the sake of their own pockets)? Make the rest of the party admit that old, sick, poor and/or non-white people are not expendable. America can be great if you pick the right things to be great at. Not just gloating and bad golf.

Its not impossible. There has to be a liberal, small government movement to counter all those "letter people" who only have demands. It has to come from the bottom and will take a long time.

Ice Age is Coming 1978 Science Facts

Buttle says...

They had a range of topics. But this one was pretty much straight up science. Just about all of it is still very mainstream. The first ice core dude is talking about the Younger Dryas event, a very quick cooling event on the way out of the most recent glaciation. The second science dude in the room of core samples is talking about Milankovitch theory, still mainstream, but it was considerably newer then.

The spin direction is different, but the attempt to stir up climate fear is the same as today. It just didn't work quite as well back then, for some reason.

eric3579 said:

"In Search Of" also did shows on UFOs, Bigfoot, and the Loch Ness Monster.

Meanwhile at a Democratic Socialists Convention...

newtboy says...

Fair enough.
I think both mentioned ideologies bear some responsibility for zealous extremists from their groups. Disavowing them and their extremist views mitigates that responsibility, but doesn't erase it.
Mainstream Islam has done a better, more consistent job of late in disavowing Islamic extremists, the "right" flip flops from condemning right wing extremists to calling them "good people", "patriots" and "our base" while publicly creating, supporting, and repeating the extremist views and conspiracies repeatedly cited as the motives for terrorism.

bcglorf said:

I'm Canadian, so as much as American politics and media is pervasive up here, some of it still foreign to me.

That said, it feels like I'm observing a not undeserved observation that white-national and anti-immigrant ideologies are dominating mass shootings in the US. I guess where I get wary is with the sources most adamant about demanding that leadership on the 'right' acknowledge and address it as their own problem. Those same sources when discussing terrorism dominated by those claiming Islamic ideologies are adamant that Islam not be unfairly tarred by bad actors.

I'd have an easier time swallowing the line if either side were consistent in their approach. Either you blame BOTH Islam AND the 'right' for terrorist acts claiming common cause, or you reject BOTH Islam AND the 'right' being blamed for a few bad actors...

A List Actors Perform Dramatic Reading Of The Mueller Report

newtboy says...

Lol.

The report is all lies!? As if you've read any of it. If Trump told you it's all fake news lies, and Trump told you it exonerated him and showed no obstruction, doesn't that mean the exoneration is fake news and there was obstruction?

The mainstream is all leftist? There I agree, mainstream America is leftist....compared to your conspiracy based far right insanity. That's why Trump has never enjoyed even 50% approval, unlike every other president ever.

This is about getting people to hear the actual report, not your ignorant Trumpian lies about it. You think this is a "we got him" moment?! Lol. We know there is no such thing with the complicit sycophantic Senate. How many "we got her" moments have you enjoyed over Clinton?

No one person in American history has offered more lies to the American public than Little Donny, America's Biggest Loser. I know you hate hearing that, because you can't contradict it.
Obama didn't need a lawyer in 8 years, how many has Trump needed in under 3 years? And now on top of the never-ending litany of scandals, criminal prosecutions, lost court cases, failed policies, appointees removed for cause, etc, he has yet another rape charge to defend, how many sexual harassment charges is that? 14?
Better get another lawyer.

It's so hilarious to hear your ilk complain "you lost, get over it" halfway through the process with so much of the report still being litigated, but the same cucks still chant "lock her up", "reinvestigate Clinton", etc after 25+ years and hundreds of millions wasted on failed attempts to dig up dirt on her....then lie and claim "$30 million wasted investigating Trump for nothing, nada, zip" (nothing except 34 convictions for crimes against America and over $45 million recovered, and a dozen active criminal court cases).

bobknight33 said:

No one cares newt. No one cares but the crying left .

But he cheated, But he lied, But but but.

Get over it.
How many " we got him now" stories have we had? every week We got Trump in a corner now, This is it, the bitch is going down!

Look the reason Trump keeps "getting away" from all these stories is because they are all lies. Main Stream leftest push slight lies to grandiose lies day in day out and truth prevails .

MEGA 2020

It's Not Okay

greatgooglymoogly says...

Actual racists only use these new symbols when the mainstream recoils in horror and labels the trolls incorrectly as racists instead of as trolls, or just ignoring them. I think many spreading the "it's ok to be white" slogan are trolls too. They enjoy seeing people freak out at a phrase that says nothing negative about anyone, but many people will read into it a hidden meaning. You can't discern intention in these cases, only assume based on your personal previous exposure. I seem to understand it as a response/analog to "black lives matter" which most people don't think secretly means white lives don't matter, and the posters think the disproportionate response is racial bias.

newtboy said:

I agree with not accepting their usurping common terms and gestures, but I cannot accept ignoring what them mean by them. Just because I don't mean anything racist when I use the OK hand symbol, I'm not going to pretend the white supremacist assholes flashing it behind the black sports announcer wasn't blatantly a racist move. Thankfully, neither are the stadium owners who banned those people for life.
Recognizing their racist intentions is not the same as condoning their racist usurpation of language. Ignoring their racist meaning and usage is condoning it. I will call them out when I think they're being racist, which these people undeniably are. "It's ok to be white" is a slogan used EXCLUSIVELY as a racist taunt, not a factual statement of equality.

Don't ignore racism in an effort to deny it power, that doesn't work....it only allows it to fester and grow. Bright sunlight is the best disinfectant.

It's Not Okay

BSR says...

? Did I say there are blatantly Hollywood winning public popularity contests or major endorsements? I certainly didn't intend to imply that.
I do, however, see Hollywood emboldened to be far more public and do things like the nation wide flier campaign this video describes. Ignore Hollywood enough, you'll see it in mainstream commercial productions and products as well. Hollywood must be exposed and opposed before Hollywood gain traction, not ignored and accepted....imo.

newtboy said:

? Did I say there are blatantly Hollywood winning public popularity contests or major endorsements? I certainly didn't intend to imply that.
I do, however, see Hollywood emboldened to be far more public and do things like the nation wide flier campaign this video describes. Ignore Hollywood enough, you'll see it in mainstream commercial productions and products as well. Hollywood must be exposed and opposed before Hollywood gain traction, not ignored and accepted....imo.

It's Not Okay

newtboy says...

? Did I say there are blatant racists winning public popularity contests or major endorsements? I certainly didn't intend to imply that.
I do, however, see them emboldened to be far more public and do things like the nation wide flier campaign this video describes. Ignore them enough, you'll see it in mainstream commercial productions and products as well. They must be exposed and opposed before they gain traction, not ignored and accepted....imo.

BSR said:

I wonder why we never see any big money making racist movies or blockbuster music hits that are racist. Never saw a racist win on America's got talent.

What the hell are you watching?

How Computers Ruined Rock Music

lurgee says...

9 minutes into it and he is only analyzing crappy pop music. I have no desire to here his babble. There are tons of great music created with computers. He is only focused on the mainstream.

Hidden Camera: Jim Jefferies exposed for deceptive editing

newtboy says...

So what? Get off your high horse, buddy, the clip you were specifically whining about is American media....and we are the undisputed leader in partisan media and get honorable mention for bat shit insanity.

Yes, you are making those comparisons.
"The left and mainstream media do more to divide us than anyone else."
Even being exceedingly pedantic, when you take anyone, divide and remove the left and mainstream media, then compare them to what's left, "anyone else", you've made a comparison with anyone not left or mainstream media, including all right wing media. Any normal reader would assume you are making a direct comparison with only right wing media. You're coming off as dishonest as JJ or Trump here.

LOL....I've seen the right wing media nonsense outside America too, Murdoch isn't American and didn't start here, the big three have international fame and fans, and in Europe, Africa, Australia, and Asia right wing media is quite often even more dishonest and bat shit crazy than in America (see Russian or some African state run tv) so my argument would still apply...but you were complaining about an American television show, so maybe first take your own head out of your own ass, then blow all that backed up shit out....I think you're totally full.

NaMeCaF said:

I'm not American. I'm not comparing it to anything you obviously think I am. Think outside your own box. America is not THE WORLD. So blow it out your arse.

Hidden Camera: Jim Jefferies exposed for deceptive editing

NaMeCaF says...

Not surprised in the least. Leftest TV always does this.

The left and mainstream media do more to divide us than anyone else.



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