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Why Tipping Should Be Banned

entr0py says...

They could do another video on the proliferation of tipping. You see tip jars at drive up windows, coffee shops, fast food places. I know there's less obligation to the jar, but it's still pretty awkward. Am I an ass for not tipping? What if no one else is tipping, will doing so look like a sad attempt to ingratiate myself to the attractive barista? Is it fine to just throw a bit of loose change in there on a small purchase, or will they see the pennies as an insult?

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OPT OUT!!

shagen454 says...

The Loose Change guys are really annoying. The sheriff was cool but opt out? I am rather glad there are fewer lunatics with guns on board my long flights back to the east coast, more than likely due to the scanners.

Jon Stewart Interview with Diane Ravitch on Education

dystopianfuturetoday says...

@RedSky

There is an old legend about a Sensei who provides instruction to his students for free. As the months go by, the students start to feel guilty for not compensating their instructor, so they offer to pay him. When approached, the Sensei replies, "If I were to charge you, you couldn't afford me".

Teaching is a calling. No one goes into teaching to become rich, they do it because they believe it provides a valuable social service. When you throw 'merit pay' into the equation, it changes this dynamic. It cheapens the interaction. Whatever pittance that would be offered would be insulting compared to the amount of time and effort teachers spend on and off campus.

If you are doing it right, there should be a sense among schools, teachers and students that they are all in it together as a team, all striving to be the best they can be and cheering their peers to do the same. There would be nothing worse for this kind of camaraderie than to throw a roll of quarters on the ground and ask them to fight over it. In the private sector, where value is measured in dollars, fighting over loose change is part of the game, but to introduce this kind of game theory into what should be a supportive and nurturing environment couldn't be more wrong headed. When Coke and Pepsi fight, the consumer wins; when students, teachers, schools and districts start duking it out, we all lose (and corporations win says issy astutely). You can't solve social problems with market solutions.

Competition is not part of the soul of education. Sure, you find competitive elements in sports, arts competitions, science team, etc., but the point of education is not to 'win'. The point of education is to learn, and more specifically, to 'learn how to learn'. Tests are about winning and losing and do nothing to promote critical thinking or a greater understanding of the world we live in. Sure, you need tests to gauge progress, but when you make testing the center piece of the educational experience, you fail in the bigger picture.

Education should be about critical thinking, about asking questions and about preparing students to be intelligent and thoughtful adults, who will hopefully one day make this world a better place. To fill their heads (or their teacher's heads) with the motivating factors of greed, selfishness and fear is no way to make this world a better place.

berticus turned me on to a great book that is helping me to understand this debate better (among other things). It's not a book about education or politics per se. It's about the psychology that governs our decisions and interactions. The book is called 'Predictably Irrational' by Dan Ariely. You'd like it.

I've done a lot of teaching in many different contexts; one-on-one instruction, coaching small groups and directing big ones. When you do a good job, it is its own rewards, when you do a bad job, it is its own punishment. No amount of money in the world can give you the feeling of changing someones life for the better, and no amount of salary in the world can spare you the shame of failing a student.

It frustrates me that people want to force education into the shallow mold of markets. We've been at it for a decade now and our educational system is still in shambles. Heck, market solutions have fucked up nearly every aspect of our country, from jobs to banks to mortgage fraud to war to poverty. Enough is enough.

I HATE PENNIES!!!! (Also Nickels.)

solecist says...

>> ^Tymbrwulf:

>> ^dgandhi:

When my GF saw me throwing pennies in the trash, she asked me to put them in a jar for her, so I did. When she decided to use them, she wasted 5 minutes, and a cashiers patience, in an attempt to utilize this otherwise "wasted" money. She then came back and acknowledged the basic truth, that unless you make migrant-farm-hand wages, pennies are not worth your time. She no longer complains when I throw them in the trash.

My 8th grade history teacher told us that he picked up every piece of loose change that he would find on the ground and pocket it. He would then empty out his loose change into a jar at the end of each day. Once a year, he would go into the bank with his jar of loose change, and exchange it for hard currency. He was able to supplement his income by over $1000 a year. All from loose change he found lying around. This was in 1998.


i have a co-worker who does this; and we work at a courthouse, so there are ample opportunities to find loose change...he makes about 100 dollars every time he turns it in...about once a year. i am afraid that i must call bullshit on your story.

I HATE PENNIES!!!! (Also Nickels.)

Tymbrwulf says...

>> ^dgandhi:


When my GF saw me throwing pennies in the trash, she asked me to put them in a jar for her, so I did. When she decided to use them, she wasted 5 minutes, and a cashiers patience, in an attempt to utilize this otherwise "wasted" money. She then came back and acknowledged the basic truth, that unless you make migrant-farm-hand wages, pennies are not worth your time. She no longer complains when I throw them in the trash.


My 8th grade history teacher told us that he picked up every piece of loose change that he would find on the ground and pocket it. He would then empty out his loose change into a jar at the end of each day. Once a year, he would go into the bank with his jar of loose change, and exchange it for hard currency. He was able to supplement his income by over $1000 a year. All from loose change he found lying around. This was in 1998.

9/11 Blueprint for Truth - Compelling Presentation

IronDwarf says...

He isn't doing anything different than those fools behind Loose Change; he's taking things people said out of context, pushing them forward as evidence and then building his theory around that, backed up with other conspiracy theories to fill in the gaps and make it seem more feasible that he's not the only person who thought this shit up. Just because he's an architect doesn't mean he can't be completely misguided and wrong.

The biggest flaw in his theory (and probably all of these theories) is the audio from that day. If you listen to any of those building implosions that he used as examples, there are a good number of detonations just before the actual collapse. If you listen to the audio from the WTC collapses (as well as Bldg 7), there are no such sounds before the building starts to give way. All the noise and "sounds of explosions" comes after the building starts collapsing on itself. If they had wired "every other floor" like he puts forward, you would have heard dozens and dozens of explosions just before the collapses.

Joe Biden Another 'Israeli Firster' Zionist.

volumptuous says...

"What is CFR? it does not compute."

CFR is the new big-brother that all the tin-foil hat, alex jones bootlickers love to talk about over their copy of "loose change".

These are the same people who believe (with the idiot ron paul) that secretly our government is building a highway conncecting mexico to canada.

It's loony-bin politics at it's ugliest.

Positive American Election Theory (Election Talk Post)

Farhad2000 says...

Alternative scenario.

The Democratic race ends, the super delegates break for Barack Obama in droves and Hillary's campaign is over. Barack offers a AG position to John Edwards, who surprisingly accepts, he picks Ron Paul as his vice-president. Ron Paul states that he cannot possibly accept the position, but Obama gives an astounding speech about unifying the parties to work for a better America, and that needs a man of Paul's caliber. Ron Paul accepts to rousing applause from Barack and the people. The campaign is underway.

However right on the eve of election results Barack Obama is assassinated at a political rally, within 30 minutes of the incident the CIA and FBI report that it is the work of Al Qaeda operatives, mass arrests occur across the country. President Bush reluctantly comes forward and states that it is necessary to under these heavy times to impose martial law on the citizens for their own safety.

The terrorists who killed Barack Obama are found to be an Iraqi, Afghani, Iranian and a North Korean. America starts bombing Iran and North Korea. Political dissent at home is suppressed due to 'National Security' concerns. Legislation is pushed through to allow The Bush Administration to continue under a special emergency mandate for preservation of the United States. Congress and Senate is dissolved. Retroactive protection and pardons are given to Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rove and others.

A few kids hiding in a cellar scour footage of the assassination, raising large questions about the governments validity of events surrounding the assassination of Obama, they put together a video called "THEY FUCKED US aka Loose Change 3", however a covert CIA/FBI raid on their residence takes place over concerns of Terrorist activity. All evidence is destroyed. The kids are all killed due to an accidental and erroneous weapon discharge. Firemen report hearing explosions at the scene of the crime.

Bush commemorates a Barack Obama monument, making a long winding speech that he will continue to protect all of us and Barack would have support him in this. He tears slightly, his voice wavering a but as he recalls the times he used to see Obama's speeches live expressing here to unheard of admiration for the man, stating that all he is doing is for Obama.

The election results released later showed Obama winning an overwhelming landslide.

A People's History of American Empire by Howard Zinn

coolhund says...

Jesus Christ! After that bullshit Loose Change everyone seems to think he can make some shit up, put it in a video and it will look like facts and the truth and himself will look like a new Jesus that opened everyones eyes...
But the worst thing are the people that actually believe this shit...

Leftist (even Anarchist) propaganda. Nothing more, nothing less.

Planet of the Arabs: How Hollywood Sees the Middle East

coolhund says...

I dont see the point in this video.
There always has to be an enemy in such movies. I mean, just look at the movies that has the big bad company as bad guy. Does that mean every company out there abuses their employees?
These movies are entertainment and fiction, not real life.
I dont want to know how many movies with americans as bad guys there would be if the arab nations had something similar like hollywood. But I actually know a few of such movies.
Seriously, if you dont like how Hollywood makes movies, then dont watch em and instead watch and idolize movies like Loose Change... lol
Anyway, there will always be movies which generalize and use stereotypes, for whatever reason. In many cases thats actually funny. And just because I find it funny how some Arabian in Team America says "derka derka" doesnt mean I dislike Arabs or see em all as funny speaking idiots.

Keith Olbermann: The NORAD 9/11 audio tapes

qruel says...

I can agree that there are many, many inconsistencies with the official story. but I haven't seen the evidence that it was a planned, known inside job. let me amend that to say, I have seen what others call evidence that the whole thing was riggerd (loose change ??) but did not agree with their conclusions.

that doesn't mean that I don't find the vast inconsistencies unsettling to say the least. how no ones head was on a platter for this fuck up will forever perplex me. I think had it been a dem in office when this had happened that the extremists in the right wing would have immediately been screaming and dominating the media with impeachment for incompetency in allowing it to happen.

but, speculatives aside, let's try and stick with what is known and reported. If anyone is posting assertions, please supply attribution in the form of links.

Remember, Remember, The 5th of November - Ron Paul (Election Talk Post)

Very Powerful VBIED, Truck Explodes Near Camp Taji, Iraq

Gold aint what it used to be... the Dead Pool killed it... (Sift Talk Post)

lucky760 says...

If/when that whole Sift Money thing comes to life, stars will no longer be tossed about like loose change in a deep pocket. How about for the time being we simply extend the window in which a star can be given for fixing deadpool videos? Like instead of 1 per day, we make it 1 per week?

I don't think people will stop fixing deadpool videos because from what I've seen, all our quality Sifters are eager to fix the videos just to fix the videos. (Many are even unhappy that they receive a star for doing it.)



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