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Zack Snyder Fundamenal Flaw(Batman v Superman) - Nerdwriter

sixshot says...

I don't have the sense to break down a movie for the quality of the scenes and moments. But I do know when a movie sucks or has trouble trying to deliver a story. And what I saw wasn't much of a story at all. There were too many things that were way out there that seem to fall into place or was forced to be there because either WB or Snyder wanted it to be there. In this case, Wonder Woman.

I also saw the portrayed character of the supposed Lex Luthor and found that has an overreaching intelligence network that should not have included the identities of various other "meta-humans." And the way he plotted all of his schemes reminds me too much of Joker.

For me, the simple conclusion I came to after watching this movie is that it didn't flow well. Things just go from one spot to another to another and there's nothing in between to tell us the details. Wasn't a lot of movie time spent on dealing with the politics of Superman? At least Captain America: Civil War got the execution right when it comes to politics (that being, the heroes have to be held accountable for their actions).

Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice - Official Trailer 2

Superman Vs. Batman: Dawn of Justice Trailer #2

Janus says...

The whole "Batman vs. Superman" thing is pretty silly to begin with for several reasons. Superman being overpowered in general and Batman only being able to possibly deal with him using kryptonite being a major one, and the idea of the two of them being at odds enough to actually fight each other being another.

I never have really liked Superman as a hero due to all of the tacked on powers and the fairly ridiculous backstory (though it's better now since they've retconned in a bunch of more sensible details over the many years).

Then this trailer seems to pretty much boil down the conflict between them to being "he's reckless and endangering lives and can't be trusted with his amazing powers" vs. "he's a vigilante who's going too far outside the law". Jesse Eisenberg as Lex Luthor (egging things on, and just in general) isn't working for me from what I see in this trailer either. Seems pretty silly. I guess mainly I was hoping for a better reason for them to end up fighting; the first teaser left that up in the air, and this one didn't personally give me compelling enough reasons.

Nice little teaser of Wonder Woman being in the movie as well, though, rather than just Batman and Superman.

SevenFingers said:

Give us the deetz

Man of Steel - Trailer 2

Sagemind says...

Okay,

Weaknesses
1). His love of humanity - Absolutely
2). Lois Lane (and Jonathan & Martha Kent)
3). Kryptonite - Proven Absolutely
4). Red Sun or Starless worlds would void his powers but first you have to make him go there.
5). Magic - Can slow him down, but can't kill him
6). Virus X - Kryptonian leprosy, the only form of disease for which Kryptonians had not found a cure (Turns out Blue Kryptonite is the cure)
7). Mind Control - He has no powers against mind control but he is a strong minded individual and has battled this and won before.
8 ). Extreme amounts of force/impact ("Darkseid and a few others have this power").
9). No air/Food/water - Superman could survive indefinitely without food, water, or rest due to the yellow sun's radiation sustaining him.

Shazam - Almost killed Superman with his lightning bolts which are magic
Lex Luthor used a magical artifact called the Powerstone to take his powers away.
Wonder Woman's magic sword can cut him.
Hulk kicked his ass once too but wasn't able to follow through.

Looks like his next major weakness after Kryptonite is Magic. Not all magic though. Only some magic granted by Gods, and then only some gods has the power to affect him. Magic has been able to lay him out but has never stopped him.

Check this forum where they clearly argue it out:
http://forums.comicbookresources.com/archive/index.php/t-72127.html

Man of Steel - Trailer 2

EMPIRE says...

Yeah, Tony Stark and Clark Kent are two very different individuals. Clark always puts others first, to the point that he won't use all his strength and power to its full extent, because he knows he could cause more damage than the villain he's trying to stop. Yes, he's a boy scout, but there's a bit of a lesson in a story about an alien who tries to act more compassionate towards humans, than most humans.

Also, he's THE superhero. period. I don't care if they make his powers and villains not realistic. I'm so fucking tired of lex luthor. He's a great villain, but geez, give it a rest already. There's a bunch of other great villains in the superman lore, and it's about time we see him be matched physically and not just intelectually. Zod is one, Darkseid is another. I would also love to see Doomsday or Brainiac.

Man of Steel - Teaser Trailer

Deano says...

>> ^kymbos:

@Deano, agree it was the best, but that doesn't say much. And still there's the whole 'wearing glasses - Clark Kent, no glasses - Superman' silliness.
I saw a great idea for Superman written somewhere. Maybe Reddit. I've googled it and can't find it. It's something like Superman is around in the 1940s, but Lex Luthor puts him into stasis until around now. In the meantime, Luthor builds a mighty media conglomerate and slowly convinces humanity that Superman wasn't a hero, but in fact was evil. When Superman re-emerges, the world sees him as a massive terrorist and loathes him. He has to overcome the distorted power of modern media and a malleable, ignorant populace to defeat his enemy.
Something like that. Not my idea, but a great way to modernise the story a little.


That idea sounds a bit weak to me. He'd only need to get a good PR firm and a twitter account and he'd be sorted!

Man of Steel - Teaser Trailer

kymbos says...

@Deano, agree it was the best, but that doesn't say much. And still there's the whole 'wearing glasses - Clark Kent, no glasses - Superman' silliness.

I saw a great idea for Superman written somewhere. Maybe Reddit. I've googled it and can't find it. It's something like Superman is around in the 1940s, but Lex Luthor puts him into stasis until around now. In the meantime, Luthor builds a mighty media conglomerate and slowly convinces humanity that Superman wasn't a hero, but in fact was evil. When Superman re-emerges, the world sees him as a massive terrorist and loathes him. He has to overcome the distorted power of modern media and a malleable, ignorant populace to defeat his enemy.

Something like that. Not my idea, but a great way to modernise the story a little.

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Red Eye Destroys Keith Olbermann and his Special Comment!

ObsidianStorm says...

Jaco - Same here man.

What exactly is wrong with not fearing idiots? So the retard in the room who doesn't know how to wipe his nose or tie his shoes says he's going to blow up the world - we should all panic as though the words were uttered by Lex Luthor?

Rational responses to threats require that graded measures be taken based on the facts of the case. These guys (the four in NY) needed to be arrested but hardly justify warrantless wiretapping, abrogation of rights, preemptive war and all the other bill of goods we've been sold.

I've tried watching this show but found it intolerable as much for the banal "witty" banter as the insipid, vacuous "points" that are made.

Oh and nearly everyone looks like a mutant... I particularly like LavaBoy at 3:45.

How Superman The Movie Should Have Ended

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Look, Up In The Sky! - The Amazing Story of Superman!

silvercord says...

Look, Up in the Sky! The Amazing Story of Superman is a documentary film from executive producers Bryan Singer and Kevin Burns which details the history of the Superman franchise, from comic book, to television, to the big screen. The story of Superman is told through archival footage, as well as interviews with many of the actors, directors, and producers involved with the Superman media over the years. The closing credits feature outtakes from the Christopher Reeve Superman films, including an outtake of Marlon Brando improvising during the recitation of a poem in a scene deleted from the original version of Superman II.

The documentary was released on DVD on June 20, 2006, shortly before the theatrical release of Superman Returns. A two DVD Best Buy exclusive Limited Edition version was released the same day (extra material on the second disc included Bryan Singer's video journals and 5 official Superman movie poster mini-prints). A shortened version of the documentary was played on A&E on June 12, 2006. Finally, it (along with Singer's video journals) was included as part of the 14-disc box set release, The Ultimate Superman Collection, in November, 2006.

Look, Up in the Sky! features interviews with the following personalities.

Those directly associated with Superman: * Dean Cain (Clark Kent/Superman, Lois and Clark: The New Adventures of Superman) * Gerard Christopher (Clark Kent/Superboy, Superboy) * Jackie Cooper (Perry White, Superman: The Movie) * Richard Donner (Director, Superman: The Movie) * Alfred Gough and Miles Millar (executive producers and creators of Smallville) * Margot Kidder (Lois Lane, Superman: The Movie) * Bill Mumy (Tommy Puck, Superboy) * Annette O'Toole (Lana Lang, Superman III; Martha Kent, Smallville) * Brandon Routh (Clark Kent/Superman, Superman Returns) * Ilya Salkind (Executive Producer, Superman: The Movie) * Bryan Singer (Director, Superman Returns) * Lesley Ann Warren (Lois Lane, It's a Bird, It's a Plane, It's Superman[1])

Those not directly associated with Superman: * Mark Hamill (played The Joker in animated incarnations and comic book fan) * Stan Lee (Marvel Comics heroes' co-creator) * Gene Simmons (musician and comic book fan) * Adam West (Bruce Wayne/Batman, Batman TV series)

Kevin Spacey (who also played Lex Luthor in Superman Returns) narrates the documentary. Mumy and Hamill are also credited as consultants on the documentary.



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