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Alaskagate IS REAL! Or is it?

newtboy says...

Bwaaahahahaha...

Your trusted sources are OAN who hires active kgb agents to write propaganda for them, Glen Beck and Alex Jones who both argued in court that they are insane and no reasonable person would believe a word of their psychotic ramblings, random right wing extremist websites who support armed insurgents taking over government buildings, and until they allowed a few "reporters" to call Trump out on some minor lies and frauds, Faux, who successfully argued in court that they are so consistently full of shit that no reasonable person would believe a word they broadcast.

You would be here insisting this story is real if only he had implicated a Democrat in the plot, even after he admitted and proved it was a just ridiculous scam.

Wouldn't be the first time....which reminds me, where are the "known instances" of democrats committing massive vote fraud you promised months ago but never produced...liar.

Of course you don't trust verifiable sources, they're constantly telling the truth about Trump, something you just can't stand.

Yes, people like you discounting reputable and verifiable sources for information in favor of Russian propaganda (OAN), self admitted crazy people (Beck/Jones), and fake "news" organizations that label themselves as unreliable liars in court (Fox). Are America's biggest problem...largely because their ignorant trust in blatant lies from admitted propagandists and liars gave us Trump.

Red tsunami 2020, just like 2018. Gonna wash away the red stain.

bobknight33 said:

Trusted sources???
CNN
MSNBC
ABC,
CBS,
NBC,
FOX,
None are trusted sources.

Those who trust the above are brain dead.

That is Americas biggest problem, not Trump.

MEGA landslide 2020

Pedo-Trump

newtboy says...

Who is this and what have you done with Bob? A long post with dozens of examples from both political parties, that's not our Bob, even as a cut and paste.

Many of these cases weren't politicians, and others were caught mid term, not during an election. It doesn't come out just during elections...the thirteen year old girl Trump and Epstein and Prince Andrew raped made her accusations well over a year ago.
Some like Epstein you labeled Democrat even though he donated to both parties and was friends with the current president until his death. A bit disingenuous.
I doubt Epstein had cameras in the sex dungeon.

You are correct, it's rampant, across the board.

bobknight33 said:

Funny how things "pop" up before election.

Epstein had camera everywhere. We will see.

Apparently this shit is rampant:

What remains of the city of Eagle Point, Oregon after fires

Girlfriend buys boyfriend shorts that fall apart in water

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

You're bad. All Trumpsters are bad.
Ready to be locked under the prison without ever leaving that 6'x8' room alive?
You said it's totally rational to label a group as bad and imprison them for life, only fools would disagree, right?

🤦‍♂️

bobknight33 said:

Nothing racist about this statement.


Stating that there is a need to lock up bad people. Only fools would disagree.

Uncle Tom - White Liberals (Deleted Scene)

newtboy says...

Crazy to think someone thinks recognizing obstacles non whites face that whites don't is somehow claiming racial superiority, and saying blacks can never reach the status of whites. What?!?

It's really a recognition that those who do achieve greatness (on average) had to work harder to achieve it, not a statement that greatness is unachievable. What drivel.

I'm guessing most of the black people shown are closer to Uncle Ruckus than Uncle Toms. I really can't see them being labeled race traitors just because they personally don't experience racism....more likely they proclaim it doesn't exist.

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Still can't find any "known instances" of Democrats cheating, eh? No one in the whole troll farm can find even one?

But dozens of known, prosecuted instances of Republicans cheating have been offered.

Ready to admit you're a liar, that there are zero known instances of Democrats cheating in elections in the last decade, but plenty of Republican cheating?...or should I keep reminding you of your ridiculous false, made up claim that you cannot defend or prove?

Real Republicans would never let this stand, they're smart enough to know letting themselves be labeled undeniable unapologetic liars is infinitely worse than admitting a mistake, real Republicans know that, RINO Trumpsters and trolls don't.

bobknight33 said:

This is you boy for 2020??

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

It's not CNN, it's directly from Trump himself. Trump's tweets are fake news?! Wow, that's progress.

He's going to try to shit on the constitution, again. He has zero respect for it, guaranteed he's never once read it through. He's not tossing it out completely....yet.

Schools are safe?! Students and teachers in them aren't. It's insanity to claim they even might be.
Kids aren't immune, kids under 10 still get sick from covid they just rarely die but many are permanently disabled, and they bring it home to mom, dad, older sister, grandma, etc. Kids over 10 are the same as the rest of us Covid wise. Classrooms are Petri dishes, it would be hard to design a place more likely to spread diseases, dozens of kids in close proximity with no ability to social distance, no hygiene, eating together hip to hip, basically being irresponsible children with little supervision. Note, schools aren't safe enough for Trump to send his child back.

Trump's team can't tell the difference between peaceful protests and rioters, that's why time and time again they're filmed attacking peaceful protests, beating and macing seated calm protesters, using tear gass on peaceful protests including shooting canisters at people's faces from point blank range, trapping crowds in enclosed areas with one exit, blocking that exit and attacking en mass, intentionally targeting media using weapons, rubber bullets, pepper spray and capsaicin bullets, driving vehicles into crowds with intent to harm peaceful protesters, beating and mace bukakke-ing peaceful and calm veterans who just stand and take it without even defending themselves, cracking elderly skulls open not rendering aid and claiming the victim was faking, etc. Trump has tried to label BLM a terrorist organization, and directed his shock troops to treat them as such. Repeatedly they are on camera trying to spark violence by attacking peaceful protesters, and have been filmed supervising white people vandalizing in the name of BLM, even directing the vandalism.

Yes, fake news like OAN, Glen Beck, and Fox can't tell the difference and hope you can't either, that's why they fake photos, adding in armed antifa, using old out of state burning riot photos to pretend Portland is on fire, never mentioning that those caught starting fires, shooting cops, driving into crowds, shooting into crowds, etc have been far right wing boogaloo boys, not protesters. Never mentioning the protests are limited to about a 4 block area of Portland, not the entire city. They pretend that when peaceful crowds are shot at and gassed and a few toss back empty water bottles as they retreat, the crowds instigated it and forced "police" (not really police) to use excessive force (ignoring the fact that the agents shot first) by being violent....but oddly have no video of violent protesters to corroborate their unbelievable stories in dozens of cases. In the list of violent acts that drove the unwanted deployment of federal thugs, 9/10 were graffiti. Fake news can't seem to tell graffiti from firebombing.

Where were they when crowds of armed thugs were taking over state capitals and calling for the mob execution of governors and officials over quarantining a few weeks back? What was different there? Hmmmm...

bobknight33 said:

Quit buy into fake news,
Not going to toss out Constitution,
Tooling to CNN for actual unbiased news is like asking a junkie not to take your drugs while you step out for the day.


Schools are safe.

Trump/police are to stop riots not peaceful protests. Fake news can't seem to identify one from another.

How it Starts

newtboy says...

Really? I remember you being on the side of the Bundys both times they became an armed group of anarchist criminals running amok, and calling Obama a criminal thug for trying to stop them.
So it's not the criminality, not running amok, not armed takeovers of public areas and expulsion of police, it's only the Democrat part of your label you have a problem with.
Since he didn't use that word, and you answered you would have been delighted, you're a liar. You weren't delighted when he did it.

You gladly cheer for Trump sending in Federal officers to attack Democrats based on blatantly false, thoroughly debunked right wing propaganda, and cry and whine when they're used to restore law and order from violent armed anarchists by Obama after months of negotiations because those armed criminal anarchists running amok were Republicans.

bobknight33 said:

Would have been delighted. When Democrats let criminals run amuck I would gladly cheer for Obama for sending in Fed Police to restore Law and order.

Then again He did nothing for the black community. or criminal reform.

Free Speech Considered Support for Nazism

bcglorf says...

The gallery is accused of repeatedly bringing in white-supremacists. The guy in the video is accused of being a neo-nazi figurehead.

The only evidence I’m seeing though is the gallery bringing in one guy I’d clearly label white supremacist, and then a bunch of people that same to have the wrong opinions on immigration, but it’s hardly clear that there is anymore evidence than that with which to convict.

This matters to me because here in Canada a student assistant was brought in for discipline and became the center of a storm for playing a fee minutes if an interview that included UT prof Jordan Peterson. She was accused of promoting hate and violence(and even committing violence herself) for the act of playing the video. All this because Jordan Peterson is a ‘well known’ alt-right extremist...

The evidence I’ve seen here has the same stink to it and so I’m reluctant to just convict the accused on the mobs say so.

newtboy said:

If the same standard applies, then yes, you are saying you expect a lone BLM activist at a clan rally to be treated better...because this treatment is unacceptable in your opinion.

His speech, or at least the speech he's defending, has been used to exactly that effect publicly and repeatedly in recent past, maybe just seconds earlier we don't know, so now it seems you've come around to my side. Am I wrong?

No, I never heard of this before this video, I have no other info, nor have I independently verified what I found. That said, a gallery that repeatedly hosts Nazis and white power speakers, surely bringing with them crowds of Nazis and white power groups into a neighborhood IS acting as a neo Nazi hq, at least during those multiple events.

I think if the gallery wasn't in a residential neighborhood but in the country, the "wrong think" would be fine, it's that they repeatedly turn the neighborhood into a race war zone by holding what amounts to white power rallies people would be outraged by, imo...but I'm not British, I can imagine they think worse about Nazis than Americans do and might be less tolerant.

I don't disagree that the gallery may have intended to just be an open space available to anyone, but what they became was a beacon to Nazis and racists, a safe place to hold rallies and events in a neighborhood that clearly doesn't want them. A place from which to provoke. The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
When they saw how angry their neighbors were at the groups they brought to the neighborhood they should have changed how they operate, or where, but seemingly didn't.


So, while the gallery may not be specifically a Nazi HQ, by hosting the speakers and groups it does, it supports their ideologies and facilitated spreading their message by offering them a platform. That makes them complicit, intentionally so after the first protest when they were put on notice the neighbors are outraged.

Tulsa - Lincoln Project

newtboy says...

So, how was the rally? Plenty of leg room, right?
<6200, not even 1/3 filled, and zero overflow. I think even you know who's winning "the fight" now.

Btw, before you blame k-pop fans for fake ticket requests, know the campaign has already said they made no difference, and instead blamed their own anti protest propaganda showing armed guards photoshopped into stock photos and flaming riots in the Seattle CHAZ zone caused by scary antifa anarchists that were actually pictures of St Paul. They also blamed reporting on the accelerating Covid 19 outbreak. Odd, none of that stopped the crowds from coming out to party elsewhere in massive numbers....only at the Trump rally in Tulsa.

<6200, not millions. Hate to tell you, that's really about Trump. At this rate, we're seeing the death throws of the Republican party. Trump is now searching the swamp for help, hiring Carl Rove and other reptilian wastes of skin. That won't win him any votes, Americans know Rove as a hard core swamp thing. Thank him for losing the Senate too.

Oh yeah, don't forget that there were more right wing extremist terrorists arrested this weekend for trying to start riots and committing murders intending to blame Black Lives Matter and Antifa. Right wing "news" suddenly stopped covering the multiple cops murdered in California and the multiple bombs found in the murderers possession when it turned out he's one of them, a right wing extremist....going from full blown outrage and "didn't his life matter" to total silence. Just like the other team caught in Vegas, outrage and insistence on labeling blm a terrorist organization until it turned out the terrorism is perpetrated by right wingers, then suddenly stop discussing the facts and just call blm terrorists anyway. These are your team, your good people, starting fires, shooting cops and unarmed protesters, driving into crowds again, trying to start race wars, making bombs, and trying to blame BLM and Antifa for their actions but they're so dumb they texted/emailed these terroristic plans to each other so we have proof that this was their plan...a plan Trump has supported by blaming blm for their crimes repeatedly. *facepalm

bobknight33 said:

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The fight is not about Biden VS Trump. POTUS come and go.

Its really about Dems VS REPs. ...

If Cardi B Did The Sound Effects For Star Wars - Episode II

Man wrongfully convicted as teen free after hitman confesses

newtboy says...

Yet another in the infinite string of examples of another young black mans life taken by not a few bad apples, but a criminal lying gang of abusive thugs who kidnapped an innocent young boy and tortured him for 9 years, but intended his torture to last for life.

Any person in the police or DA's office with knowledge of the facts should be serving a minimum of 9 years in gen pop with no special treatment, labeled child molesters.
Anyone who had a hand in this intentional torture of a child deserves a slow protracted public torturous death with the promise that their families are next being the last thing they hear. (We don't have to follow through on that, just make them believe it).

THIS is why I say all police are lead deficient. Again, not one came forward, they NEVER come forward to out fellow officers, and this time the entire department and DA conspired to torture a boy for life to protect their reputations and succeeded for over 9 years....and no repercussions or apologies. None at all.
Use black talons.

There aren't even a few good apples, the whole bunch is spoiled. It took a hitman, the actual mass murderer with more morality than the entire legal system to save him, and even that was nearly covered up.

There is not a punishment severe or torturous enough for these police and prosecutors.

"can't take back no hurt"

newtboy says...

Bobby, Bobby, Bobby.
You know your black on black crime rates are nothing but made up propaganda, it's no where near 99%. That's white power propaganda you accepted without question...that's a form of racism itself....it's often referred to as "soft" racism of lowered expectations.

This fake news projection again, eh? You watch Fox and OAN, both entertainment/opinion posing as news...the definition of fake news...but want to call the daily videos of racist dicks being racist dicks on tape "fake". Do you believe CNN has a studio out back where they stage these events?
" There is no belief, however foolish, that will not gather its faithful adherents who will defend it to the death." -Asimov

Let's compare relevant and real numbers, police kill 25-26 black men for every cop killed. Let's not pretend you can do statistics even with honest data....but there's no question you can't using the data you repeat, because it's not data, it's racist propaganda that's thoroughly debunked but you just keep repeating.
You know you said there are 5000 racist murders for every black on black murder, right?

How many per day, Bob? How many racist murders per day do you need?
How many unprovoked violent racist attacks by blacks against whites per day would you need to see before you can admit there's a problem, because I'm sure if races were reversed that number would be 1/365....one video per year, that's what I think it would take for you to label a black run system racist against white people. Without racial norms being reversed, two a day isn't enough.

The big issue today is cops, the government, killing unarmed black people....If cops and their superiors were mostly minorities who killed >90% whites and arrested whites for non-infractions, putting only those publicly proven racists on vacation duty and protecting any accused without video proof, you would be frothing with rage at the out of control racist cops.

Edit:so answer the question...how many per day before you see racism is still problematic? A number
How many instances per day of government sanctioned racism before you see it's systemic. A number
Note, the word systemic does not mean that every interaction must be a racist violation. I know your paper tiger/straw man methods.

bobknight33 said:

I'll grant you that there are racist dicks out there but not as many as fake news pushes day in day out.

How many racist murders are there per year compared to # of murders of black on black? 5000:1 maybe

I would gather a less than a 1% ratio.
Stop wasting time address the small issue and fix the big issue.

Cop Drives Man Over 100 Miles After Traffic Stop ...

newtboy says...

My gripe was, as a public servant, getting paid for a personal good deed, especially if not approved so abandoning his duties.

Since it was pre-approved, my only remaining minor gripe is being labeled a super Samaritan for something he was paid to do.

Still a nice thing, no doubt, something I approve of far more than military equipment. I would donate to a fund that reimbursed departments for any costs associated with this kind of policing....someone more tactful should create one.

BSR said:

I would imagine that there are not too many people up in arms about the cost of what the officer did anyway. I don't know if the officer got conformation of the death beforehand or if he made the trip to verify if the story was true or not but, either way I think he did the right thing especially if the story was true. He showed compassion and empathy, the very thing a cop should also have on his gun belt.



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