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A new series from Joss Whedon, eh? Well, I look forward to it until it's eventual and premature cancellation

And the Sci-Fi convention episode from this year. I think it was episode 6. He even says "shiny" and names a number of sci-fi shows and "that Joss Whedon show".

I already know after watching Chomsky and reading about 30 of his books that this is going to be SUPER Repetitive. It's sad because it's not his fault that he HAS to be super repetitive. Even the people who consider him one of the greatest academics ever don't read his works or pay attention to what he says.

After studying Chomsky for the past decade, I have great respect for him, and very little respect for those who either petulantly criticize or ignorantly quote him.

I mean we live in a world where people analyze Joss Whedons works at Universities with greater deference and specificity (outside of Linguistics of course).

Never got the appeal of Joss Whedon. It must be a 90's generational thing. While I really don't care for musicals, I did like Dr. Horrible, so I guess there's something to be said about that.

But yes, I'll echo Sniper007. Want to see the best version? Stick with Branagh.

Yuck yuck yuck yuck yuck. That trailer gave me serious douche-chills. If it wasn't for Joss Whedon's name attached to this.... it probably wouldn't see the light of day.

It's like a reunion for Joss Whedon's favourite actors!

As with all things, it's not necessarily a law change that need to happen. Laws don't drive the zeitgeist, the zeitgeist drive laws (or should).

People need to be dissuaded from wanting to have guns. In Europe, people don't really want a gun, and don't even see a need for one. Sure, there are hunters and they have guns, and sure you can get one if you're in a dangerous area with bears and shit, but actually getting a gun is when you're hunted by mafia or something like that and you're desperate. Why would you ever want to walk around with a gun? I don't really get it.

Perhaps people have a fantasy about being a hero, where they shoot the bad guy. Everyone has that as a kid; most kids also grow up.

There's something deeply satisfying about firing a gun - power at your fingertips. Control. Maybe it's a control thing. People don't like to be out of control, with a gun they always have something to fall back on to control the situation.

Maybe it's a macho thing, although women carry guns too. I don't know the statistic of it, but I would imagine more men do than women. Men are intrinsically destructive while women are creative - it's our nature. We men beat up our rivals to gain access to that sweetest fruit of all: peach. Perhaps it's an extension of power; an penis extension. Don't pull the trigger, squeeze it tenderly. You are the gun; look down the aim at your target and fire.

Maybe there's some brain vs brawn in it. I would wager good money that as intelligence goes up, gun ownership goes down. No statistics to back it up, but I'd love to see if it's true. Brains are taking over everything - it's the decade of the Nerd. Joss Whedon and JJ Abrams could get all the girls and gets all the admiration in the big world, while Dick McKickaball failed to make the team and married Candace the exotic dancer his friends hired for him on his 21st birthday. But at least he could shoot JJ Abrams in the face with his 4½ inch death stick.

Society doesn't really gain much from guns does it?

It has its own market and thus gets people to move money around with someone around to skim the top. dft said this in point 2 as well. This could be done for worse stuff though - snuff porn has a market; heroin has a market.

Mutually Assured Destruction is always a fun acronym to throw around. If everyone does eye for an eye, the world will go blind, I've heard somewhere. Probably a shitty western or something.

Feelings of security? If I have a gun, do I feel safer from the people around me that may or may not also have guns? I would feel safer in my home, I think. If I feared home invasions. Home invasions are a weird thing; very rare in europe to the best of my knowledge, even though we don't have guns. Seems like something that would only happen if there was an enormous disparity between poor and rich, making the poor desperate (and lazy) enough to want to do a home invasion. If Brian the Aryan Man-God makes 10 million billion $$ a year, and Rommel the Dirty Mexican doesn't get anything because he has to pay child support off his social security and also cover his meth addication, then the chance of Rommel doing a home invasion is greater than if Rommel makes half of what Brian does. Maybe we need to raise the floor, instead of raising the ceiling on the extrema of wealth to lose the desire of guns.

Maybe it's all of the factors at once, and we have someone like the NRA pushing everyone to want all of them. I want security. I'm afraid. I have a small dick. Home invasions happen all the time. Schools get shot by crazies, I need to defend myself.

Bang!

Bang! Bang! Bang! Bang!

There... the demons went away. Guns are your friends.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^Yogi:
You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.

Well, first off, I don't live in the U.S.
I take an interest in its politics because whether I like it or not, it affects me.
Second, I'm not doing nothing, I'm participating in a democratic process. Hell, I'm not even an NZ citizen and I still get to make a difference.
Finally, if you are genuinely involved in social movements (where "involved in social movements" does not equal "bitching on the web") then kudos to you, brother.


OH MY GOD HAVE YOU BEEN TO HOBBITON??!?! :3

>> ^Yogi:

You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.


Well, first off, I don't live in the U.S.
I take an interest in its politics because whether I like it or not, it affects me.

Second, I'm not doing nothing, I'm participating in a democratic process. Hell, I'm not even an NZ citizen and I still get to make a difference.

Finally, if you are genuinely involved in social movements (where "involved in social movements" does not equal "bitching on the web") then kudos to you, brother.

>> ^ChaosEngine:

>> ^Yogi:
I think George Carlin cleared this up already. If YOU vote than it's your fault, the people who don't vote get to complain because YOU Voters screwed up the country.

Sorry, but that's bullshit and my respect for Carlin has just gone way down.
Fine, you don't like the system. You feel that both candidates are crooks, liars, war criminals and nickelback fans. You don't want to vote for either of them.
Ok, what are you doing about that? If you're not going to vote within the system, what are you doing to change it?
"What can I do to change the system all by myself?"
I dunno, but that's not my problem. You're the one who believes it's so fucked up that you can't participate. Yeah, it's difficult and you have fuck all chance of making a meaningful change, but if you believe it's that badly broken, don't you have a moral obligation to at least try?
So either use your voice to make an informed decision or work to change the system. Otherwise STFU.


You think voting is working to change the system? I'm working by doing my own things to change the system, being involved in social movements to change minds...not pulling a lever once every four years and thinking I'm fucking doing something. You're doing nothing, you just don't get that.

>> ^Yogi:

I think George Carlin cleared this up already. If YOU vote than it's your fault, the people who don't vote get to complain because YOU Voters screwed up the country.


Sorry, but that's bullshit and my respect for Carlin has just gone way down.

Fine, you don't like the system. You feel that both candidates are crooks, liars, war criminals and nickelback fans. You don't want to vote for either of them.

Ok, what are you doing about that? If you're not going to vote within the system, what are you doing to change it?

"What can I do to change the system all by myself?"

I dunno, but that's not my problem. You're the one who believes it's so fucked up that you can't participate. Yeah, it's difficult and you have fuck all chance of making a meaningful change, but if you believe it's that badly broken, don't you have a moral obligation to at least try?

So either use your voice to make an informed decision or work to change the system. Otherwise STFU.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^Jinx:
>> ^Yogi:
>> ^Jinx:
I don't rly think Obama is as bad as Yogi thinks...

Cause you don't know anything.

Ur cute. :3
You might have an easier time making your argument if you didn't take/make everything quite so personal. Just a thought.

Yeah don't take the deaths of people you don't know so personally, it only matters when they're killing white people.


I respect your analysis and position Yogi but the fact is someone is going to be running the battle station. You have a binary choice here, do you think Romney will be BETTER at standing up to the Complex? Obamas probe droids are (from his POV at least) preferable to myopic & masochistic puritan invasions and total genocide.. imagine a standoff betwen nuclear fleets in the South China Sea.. who would you rather have calling the shots?

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^SevenFingers:
"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."
If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag

another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.
"both sides are bad" is a cop out.

You have a choice...you can walk away. Like I'm doing.


Yeah, that's... um, going to produce such a great outcome.

Man you have a sanctimonious tone in this thread "You know nothing, I know fucking everything, there's no way MY thinking could be anything but completely informed and RIGHT"

You don't like either of the major candidates so you will not vote, and then get really shitty at those who want to vote to keep out the bigger danger to your country.

Congrats on sounding like a self righteous dick.

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^VoodooV:
>> ^SevenFingers:
"He's the first president I voted for who is responsible for childrens deaths."
If he's not the only president you voted for in your life then I doubt that to be true. Technology today allows coverage on more of that kind of thing now, allowing us to see it. Plus you should probably get used to it, I highly doubt things are going to change soon no, matter who's POTUS.
I have no interest in voting, I probably never will. Since.. you know, the choices will always be:
A: Turd Sandwhich
B: Douche bag

another false equivalency. Just because two things are undesirable, doesn't mean they are equally undesirable. If you literally were forced to choose between a turd sandwich and a douche bag. I guarantee you that one would inevitably be be less bad than the other.
"both sides are bad" is a cop out.

You have a choice...you can walk away. Like I'm doing.


no vote, so no voice, so stfu. I respect far right racist trolls like QM or bobknight33 more than someone who won't vote.