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Sam Harris with Joe Rogan

ghark says...

>> ^kevingrr:

@ghark
1 - I'm not sure which swipe of Chris Hedges you are referring to. If it is in regard to the Moral Landscape I can only comment that Hedges takes every opportunity to inject himself into the spotlight. Having read the Moral Landscape I can say that the ideas Harris presents CAN be challenged by legitimate thinkers, of which Hedges is not.
Hedges game has been to misrepresent Harris' point of view as written in End of Faith. I would go so far as to call Hedges an all out liar. See my post in this thread:

2 - Where here is Sam blindly racist? He states that acts of terror are more likely to be carried out by young Muslim men than by 5 year old girls or grandmothers.
If I said that black athletes are more likely to be basketball players and white athletes are more likely to be baseball players would that make me racist? Because in terms of professional sports that simply IS the case. Note I am not saying WHY that is the case - I am simply saying it is and the statistics prove it.
As I have said before Sam is not racist, but he is honest about who is most likely to have some bad ideas and he does not like bad ideas.
3. Sam is not a pacifist but he is not a warmonger either. As I listened to the entirety of the interview I noted he had a very nuanced idea of when war, or physical violence of any kind, is justified.
One last link regarding Hedges:
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Shouldn't the definition of terrorism (of which there are many) be carefully examined before making that statement? I assume you are using the 'American mainstream media' version, which of course means, an act in which a colored person with a beard tries to inflict injury or death on other (usually white) people. If the definition is not looked at with mainstream-media-tinted spectacles then it would not be a stretch to say that the 105,000+ documented Iraqi civilian casualties since 2003 were caused by American (and allied troops) terrorism. Political and resource motivated civilian slaughter on a massive scale (and on foreign soil) sounds very terrorist-like to me. Using this line of logic, would it not make more statistical sense to worry about young to middle aged white males having access to military training than scanning middle aged Muslim men at airports.

My point is not to blame the US troops, Australian troops were also involved, my point is simply that someone of Harris' intellect should be above the simple fear mongering and use of blatant misleading generalizations that he's demonstrating in this video. He was one of my hero's for a while there, and seeing him for what he truly seems to be leaves me a bit hollow inside.

As far as Hedges goes, he seems to be on the mark most of the time, and is an excellent speaker, however I thought his shots at Harris were pretty poor form (during his book launch) because it just seemed to be a blatant publicity stunt, so I agree with you on that to a degree.

Please take in mind My BS meter couldn't handle more than about 25-30 mins of the video, and as @LukinStone mentions, Harris explains some of his comments in more detail later in the video, I just couldn't make it that far unfortunately. Most of what I was hearing was self-gratification, "a large American city has about a 50% chance of having a nuclear bomb set off in it within the next decade or so", racist comments and some war mongering, there's only so much I can take

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Comedian Joe Rogan on OWS

criticalthud says...

>> ^Peroxide:

Interesting, but his notion of a global society requires renewable energy at the base of it, rather than fossil fuels.


indeed indeed.
and maybe fossil fuels need to be more properly viewed as a "means" to renewable energy, rather than a competing source.

Anthony Bourdain on the Joe Rogan Experience

ponceleon says...

>> ^marinara:

sorry, i just opend the video and didn't vote. I didn't realize how long it was.


Not to worry, it is sort of a niche video... gotta be either a Joe or Tony fan to really appreciate it. That said, if you don't know either of them and have 2.5 hours to blow, you'll get a great view into them.

Joe Rogan vs Feminist

packo says...

>> ^gluonium:

ugh what an unbelievably obnoxious asshole. I think the only way I could stand Joe Rogan for more than 10 seconds is if he were naked, servile and totally mute.


Gluonium = Lydia Lunch?

Dane Cook confronts Louis C.K. about joke stealing

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Joe Rogan Explains the Stoned Monkey Hypothesis

rottenseed says...

On the first article...maybe shrooms gives us an insight into what it's like to experience dying? I hope not, my shroom trips are always scary >> ^Fusionaut:

Psilocybin actually decreases blood flow and connections in the brain rather than stimulates. Can a decrease in blood flow cause the brain to increase over time? http://boingboing.net/2011/04/15/shrooms-limit-brain.html
Also, the human brain has actually been decreasing over the last 30,000 years yet we are still becoming smarter: http://news.discovery.com/human/shrinking-brains-intelligence-110207.
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From what I've read of Terrence McKenna on wikipedia it seems that his theory is based more on speculation and spirituality than science.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terence_McKenna
I totally would have believed this theory without researching until he started talking about aliens. Whenever aliens get involved in a theory of our evolution it sets off my bullshit detector.

Joe Rogan Explains the Stoned Monkey Hypothesis

Bro You Stole My Bong! FIGHT

kymbos (Member Profile)

rottenseed says...

I have an android phone, but I use to...drum roll please...CALL PEOPLE! That's about it haha.

The podcasts that are important to my daily routine are: Bill Burr's Monday Morning Podcast, and The Joe Rogan Experience as well as Marc Maron's podcast.
In reply to this comment by kymbos:
I've just gotten into podcasts, having gotten an android smartphone. Are there any podcasts you would particularly recommend? I'd appreciate the leads.

In reply to this comment by rottenseed:
I know. I got an email from the podcast saying that he was on there. Haven't got around to it yet. So many podcasts, so little time. Thanks for the heads up though!

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