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"Building 7" Explained

Hanover_Phist says...

I don't care what side your on, just please don't compare Skyscrapers to Jenga Blocks. Jenga blocks are not secured together!!! They are just placed on top of one another. It simply isn't safe to stack wooden blocks that high and have people walking around in and on them. That would be dangerous. No, Skyscrapers are fastened together somehow. Really really tightly.

"Building 7" Explained

Jinx says...

House fires can reach pretty insane temperatures, I don't see why its so unbelievable that a building full of paper might also produce these temperatures.

You don't need the same heat as a tanker with 9000 gallons of fuel. That bridge collapsed in minutes, WT7 collapsed after 7 hours of fire...

As for one column failing...well its the straw that breaks the camels back. You'd expect multiple redundancy, but I imagine the trouble with building huge skyscrapers is the more load bearing structure you put in the more weight the structure beneath that has to hold. It doesn't really surprise me that it wouldn't take many things going wrong for gravity to have its way.

As for the fact the building went down like a controlled demolition...why is that surprising. If you want to bring down a building cleanly and efficiently with minimum explosives you look for the card that holds the rest of the house up. The fire did that job as well as any demo expert, it poked and prodded every single Jenga block in that building, it weakened every support and warped the whole structure and if you end up with just one Atlas of a crossbeam holding more than its fair share of weight and a fire goes through the building testing every single one then ya, its the one holding all the weight thats gonna fail.

Wow theorycraftin is ez.

"Building 7" Explained

Bad Idea: using a hydraulic hammer to demolish a building

9/11 Rare view of the south tower hit.

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^Jinx:

I mean no offence to the OP, but if you don't know anything about the way the Towers were built and the reason for their eventual collapse then why do you think your opinion holds any weight? The official line, which is backed up by god knows how many engineers and demo experts seems plausible to me. Even if it did seem counterintuitive to me, I'd still just assume its because I am basically ignorant of how massive structures fall. Those towers aren't built out of Jenga blocks...
As for the whole conspiracy theory thing...Occam's Razer bro. I don't doubt the US govt has hid much from the public regarding 9/11, but I don't believe anybody could orchestrate the destruction of the twin towers to conveniently pin it on the Saudis, especially since the US did their damndest to swing the blame on Iraq. I can't see a motive, and I sure as hell can't see a means and I don't see any evidence. All I see is such a deep destrust of government. Simplest explanation wins.


From reading the thread, it apeared that he was unfamiliar with the details of the NIST report. It is counter intuitive that a building struck on the side would fall in its own footprint ( as any Jinga players would know), if one wasn't familiar with the finders in the report. I, too, didn't take the story on face value until I learned of the unique conditions of the towers. Wisdom comes from asking questions.

9/11 Rare view of the south tower hit.

Jinx says...

I mean no offence to the OP, but if you don't know anything about the way the Towers were built and the reason for their eventual collapse then why do you think your opinion holds any weight? The official line, which is backed up by god knows how many engineers and demo experts seems plausible to me. Even if it did seem counterintuitive to me, I'd still just assume its because I am basically ignorant of how massive structures fall. Those towers aren't built out of Jenga blocks...

As for the whole conspiracy theory thing...Occam's Razer bro. I don't doubt the US govt has hid much from the public regarding 9/11, but I don't believe anybody could orchestrate the destruction of the twin towers to conveniently pin it on the Saudis, especially since the US did their damndest to swing the blame on Iraq. I can't see a motive, and I sure as hell can't see a means and I don't see any evidence. All I see is such a deep destrust of government. Simplest explanation wins.

Woman seeking revenge accidentally set herself on fire.

Physics Engine: Over 5000 KEVA planks building

Physics Engine: Over 5000 KEVA planks building

Physics Engine: Over 5000 KEVA planks building

Incredible physics engine demos from Carrara 8

mxxcon says...

>> ^Psychologic:

This one?
>> ^lucky760:
For the second demo did anyone else think "JENGA!" ?



now this is a more impressive demo. they simulation friction of those sticks and even internal mass and air resistance since you can see balls falling faster than wooding sticks.

also this video proves it, 9/11 was an inside job.

Incredible physics engine demos from Carrara 8

Incredible physics engine demos from Carrara 8

Milton Friedman about getting Congress to do as they should

thinker247 says...

Those in power will do what is right for the powerful, regardless of what is right for the society they rule. Change anything you wish, but power will continue to feed on itself, and the weak will never inherit the earth.

The only way to get what you want is to align what you want with the ability of the powerful to stay in power. Do you want legalized pot and doctor-assisted suicide? You can't, because those Jenga pieces will topple the tower. Do you want single-payer healthcare and regulation of the markets? Don't even bother.

Do you want soldiers to be accountable for murder during wartime?
Do you want education to stay out of the hands of Texas conservative lawmakers?
Do you want government transparency?

Don't even bother.



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