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Hug a Terrorist

hpqp (Member Profile)

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

billpayer says...

Whether thrown in an oven or massacred by bombs and artillery what is the difference ?
And yes, I do believe as many Muslims have been slaughtered over their history as the Jews (if not more).

Also, ALL orthodox religions are CRAZY ! Christian, Jew or Muslim. Please stop cherry picking extreme events to paint Muslims as crazy, all religions are guilty of it. I can't be bothered to troll the internet for tragic instances of religious freaks killing each other, but it's all there. Just look at orthodox Jews in Israel if you want to see the oppression of women. I don't see the west stepping in to 'help' them.

Also, the west is mostly to blame for the lack of progress in the middle east. Every time an organized modern government appears, we bomb it back into the stone age or setup a dictator to take them out.
The west does not want progress in the middle east. Just look at Israel / Palestine.

>> ^GeeSussFreeK:

>> ^billpayer:
This talk is pathetic.
The Hudson institute is a bunch or war mongering fascists set up by Herman Kahn (sociopath) and RAND corp (ie. US Military Industrial Complex).
Scum like these have been building up Islamophobia for decades.
Muslims are in-arguably the new Jews and are the subjects of persecution all over the globe.

Interesting, and where are the getting tossed into ovens by the tens of thousands? Where do women still get stoned for showing their faces? While no doubt, the subject or some western bigotry, the comparison to them to Jews is just patently absurd. Even African Americans pre-60s had it harder then Muslims today. Are there separate Muslims bathrooms, no.
This talk is not pathetic. Was it pathetic the Catholic Church was, and still is, the subject of malice over the recent fiasco, no. Western bigotry over Muslim ideals is inevitable, because as they currently are incompatible. They don't have to be, but that is the current state of them. A man can beat his wife for not putting out. A women can be stoned for adultery, and adultery can be so loosely defined as being alone with another man that is not your husband.
This does cause undue stress on Muslims that do not practice these ideals, they are the true victims. But they still don't have it as bad as AA did in America, the Jews in German, or the women in Muslim countries do today.

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

hpqp says...

>> ^Yogi:

>> ^quantumushroom:
Since its inception, islam has been a murderous death-cult. No exaggeration required.

A Murderous Death-cult made up of millions of human beings who don't hurt anyone.

Consent is just as bad as participation. Defending an ideology that has people tortured, mutilated and/or killed for such terrible offenses as trying to avoid forced marriage, wanting to own a mobile phone or have a boyfriend, or trying to protect your daughter from being killed by your husband and son for refusing an arranged and incestuous marriage... just to name a few; anyone defending such an ideology partakes in the guilt of its gruesome results.

Not to say that all muslims are evil (or some equally stupid generalisation), just that covering up the barbaric ideology they (often unknowingly) adhere to is not an example of "tolerance" but of dangerous ignorance.

(I didn't watch the video, just adding to the discussion.)

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

TheGenk (Member Profile)

GeeSussFreeK says...

Well said sir. Some people like to shoot the messenger, then throw away the message.

In reply to this comment by TheGenk:
While you both (dystopianfuturetoday and billpayer) have a point here, it's not as black and white as you describe it. She does have a few points(even though they are exaggerated), the special treatment of islam for instance.

Having said that, I think the UNHRC is a farce anyway which should be obvious if you look at who is a member of it: Saudi Arabia, China, Bahrain, Russia, ...

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

GeeSussFreeK says...

>> ^billpayer:

This talk is pathetic.
The Hudson institute is a bunch or war mongering fascists set up by Herman Kahn (sociopath) and RAND corp (ie. US Military Industrial Complex).
Scum like these have been building up Islamophobia for decades.
Muslims are in-arguably the new Jews and are the subjects of persecution all over the globe.


Interesting, and where are the getting tossed into ovens by the tens of thousands? Where do women still get stoned for showing their faces? While no doubt, the subject or some western bigotry, the comparison to them to Jews is just patently absurd. Even African Americans pre-60s had it harder then Muslims today. Are there separate Muslims bathrooms, no.

This talk is not pathetic. Was it pathetic the Catholic Church was, and still is, the subject of malice over the recent fiasco, no. Western bigotry over Muslim ideals is inevitable, because as they currently are incompatible. They don't have to be, but that is the current state of them. A man can beat his wife for not putting out. A women can be stoned for adultery, and adultery can be so loosely defined as being alone with another man that is not your husband.

This does cause undue stress on Muslims that do not practice these ideals, they are the true victims. But they still don't have it as bad as AA did in America, the Jews in German, or the women in Muslim countries do today.

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

Islam is hijacking the UN Human Rights Council

TheGenk says...

While you both (dystopianfuturetoday and billpayer) have a point here, it's not as black and white as you describe it. She does have a few points(even though they are exaggerated), the special treatment of islam for instance.

Having said that, I think the UNHRC is a farce anyway which should be obvious if you look at who is a member of it: Saudi Arabia, China, Bahrain, Russia, ...

Freedom Under Fire: U.N. Anti-Blasphemy Resolution

Haldaug says...

While this is scary enough, the report is a bit lacking. It is only in the Human Rights Council of the UN that theese descicions has been made. The Human Rights Council has no power over the member states of the UN and has no authority except to make recommendations to the General Assembly. The General Assembly has no authority except to advise the Security Council.

But that makes this no less infuriating, as this article will tell you:
http://www.iheu.org/vote-on-freedom-of-expression-marks-the-end-of-universal-human-rights

Banned UN Speech: "Human Rights Nightmare"

cryptographrix says...

After I saw this video, I went to the UN site and searched for every UNHRC resolution that I could find(in total that I have found: 12). I printed all of them out, and started reading. I can't make a definitive claim(IANAL), but it seems that most of the resolutions would only concern Israel indirectly - it seems that most of them are resolutions about specific actions that they want to see stop - like "Enforced Disappearance."

As such, this video disturbs me, as it seems to be just a singly biased view of the UNHRC's resolutions, using the President's claims of "this is inadmissible" as "this is being covered up" for people who are unlikely to actually read the actual UNHRC's resolutions(just my thoughts).

As such, if you'd like to read them yourself, go here: http://ap.ohchr.org/documents/mainec.aspx and select Body: Human Rights Council, and Type: Resolution.

Like mentioned above, IANAL, so all of this is just the little bit that I am able to understand and read, so please read there and inform me if I have misinterpreted anything.

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