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Buttigieg Shuts Down Loaded Fox Question

newtboy says...

You would think so, but he wouldn't dare say something bad about uncle Donny.

I engage mostly not for him, but to counter the insanity he spews, because if no one does there will be people swayed by his uncontradicted nonsense. I feel it's important to counter disingenuous bullshit with some verifiable fact whenever possible.
It's clear he's not interested in truth or honesty as he's said clearly multiple times...and I believe he may be incapable of learning on top of having no desire.

moonsammy said:

That felt purposely worded to be ironic, which indicates bob is not, in fact, stupid. He (or they, perhaps) is clearly trolling, pretty much all the time. Not entirely sure why you bother engaging, he's shown zero interest in actually learning anything.

I'm Smart

newtboy says...

One side was goaded to be deplorable at a 2/10, one side was just himself at a 9/10 deplorable level.

If you quote Trump, you're bringing up false Trump statements, because 98.6% of what he says is false.

Trump didn't have an iota of self control, he's like a three year old hippie child with ADD and parents that don't believe in discipline, manners, civility, or honesty. He was so out of control the moderators will have a mute button on him the next two debates, so expect Trump to no show. If it's not going to be a circus, there's not a place for a clown like him.

America lost....3 years and <11 months ago.
Nothing was taken out of context at all, liar. He was asked to denounce white supremacy and direct his people to remain calm after the election and not resort to violence, he insisted on a specific group because he won't denounce white supremacy, (not even David Duke or the KKK, who he DOES know well despite his lies to the contrary, he's spent months ranting about a democratic candidate that should have dropped out because Duke said something nice about them a few years back, he certainly knew who David Duke and the KKK were then, but can't denounce either today). He was given a group to denounce, the racist and terroristic proud boys, and he said "stand back and stand by", in no way a denouncement nor a direction to not resort to violence, in fact it was a direction to prepare for violence and is their new slogan. When given another chance the next day to denounce them and call for no violence on his behalf, he failed again. It wasn't a mistake, out of context, and he has never denounced white supremacy by name and has publicly excused and applauded them committing murders and other violent acts more than once. Trump doesn't just support white supremacy, he relies on it as his base. They use his words as their slogans, and he loves it.

Have you denounced your pedophilic actions and remarks? No? Why not? Why won't you agree to stop raping little boys?

bobknight33 said:

That was a disgrace of a debate. Both sides deplorable.
Biden constantly pulling up false trump statements and Trump stopping him every time.

No one won. America lost.
As for racist remarks, again taken out of context and yes Trump has denounce time and time again.

But has Biden denounced his racist remarks?

Democrats know Biden will lose

newtboy says...

Newsmax, the wannabe OAN? Lol Bob. They're science denying, far right fake news that rates a 45/180 for honesty who sells snake oil by tricking their readers/viewers into reading fake "scientific discovery" articles that direct you to a sale page for the new snake oil that cures cancer or makes your cells (so you) immortal. Holy Fuck.
I won't watch a second of their dishonesty, recently claiming the RNC turned the tables for Trump and he's winning in all the polls now? Get real, such nonsense. You just love blatant fraudsters, don't you. They love you, they love all their uneducated followers, they're so easy to separate from their money.

bobknight33 said:

Even Democrats know that Biden will loose.

How to Apply Your Mask

BSR says...

I got the feeling after watching some of her other videos that she targets a group of kids that have had a tough and abusive life. Her words or lyrics or style harmonize with victims and gets their attention but may also elude the "fortunate". She also shows hope that they can overcome just as she has.

Music, no matter the genre will reach those that are looking for answers to cope with whatever the damage may be and the answer will always be, "you are not alone in being alone."

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All alone, or in two's
The ones who really love you
Walk up and down outside the wall
Some hand in hand
And some gathered together in bands
The bleeding hearts and the artists
Make their stand
And when they've given you their all
Some stagger and fall, after all it's not easy
Banging your heart against some mad bugger's wall - Pink Floyd

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9W3X0T15Rs

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The Spirit of Radio

Begin the day
With a friendly voice
A companion, unobtrusive
Plays that song that's so elusive
And the magic music makes your morning mood
Off on your way
Hit the open road
There is magic at your fingers
For the spirit ever lingers
Undemanding contact
In your happy solitude
Invisible airwaves
Crackle with life
Bright antennae bristle
With the energy
Emotional feedback
On a timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price
Almost free
All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah, your honesty
One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity, yeah
Invisible airwaves
Crackle with life
Bright antennae bristle
With the energy
Emotional feedback
On a timeless wavelength
Bearing a gift beyond price
Almost free
For the words of the profits
Were written on the studio wall
Concert hall
And echoes with the sound of salesmen
Of salesmen, of salesmen - Rush

luxintenebris said:

found that chilling.

the music.
the voice.
the ethereal background.

maybe they showed this to all those anti-maskers?
weirded the living bee-jezzus out of them!
some vicious propaganda that is.

(or would that be anti-propaganda propaganda? 'cause normal propaganda was pro-mask and this was anti-that? either way, haven't felt that spooked since they tried to indoctrinate me into the cult of mary kay)

bobknight33 (Member Profile)

newtboy says...

Many faults?!? Understatement of the year.
You keep going on and on and on with your brainless parroting of an untrustworthy liar who made an unbelievable claim about Biden like morals matter to you, but when confronted with proof your choice has no morals at all and is actually a pedophile who acted on his urges according to his own words and a repeatedly convicted con man and charity fraud you say, "I support a man with many faults". Clearly morals, ethics, laws, honesty, loyalty, even basic humanity aren't concerns as long as you get to troll some liberals.

Got what done? Not walls. Not trade. Not diplomacy. Not the economy. Not jobs. Not reducing debt. Not national unification.
All I've seen are absolute failures on those promises and the creation of new disasters through incompetence.

Mail in vote failures are actually a symptom of Trump's appointee's direct interference in the post office's ability to deliver mail, removing 10% of national sorting capacity, concentrated in cities that need it most as I understand it, halting all overtime, and changing established delivery methods causing massive backlogs ansd slowdowns of all mail, not just ballots. It's a statistical certainty that veterans have died from not getting their medicine delivered, but you don't care about that either because he's not Hillary.

Odd that you somehow think the national inability to guarantee a free and fair election helps trump look capable of leadership....not sure how that's America being great, sounds more like we're becoming a shit hole country that can't even hold elections, and Trump seems more than happy to help it along instead of trying to fix the problem (although he is trying to "fix" the election by breaking it's processes and suppressing as many voters as possible).

bobknight33 said:

I support a man with many faults. I also support a man who get things done.


Joe will not win, Democrats will lose by a landslide.

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Also more mail in voting gone wrong in Detroit.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/politics/2020/08/20/benson-asked-investigate-detroit-perfect-storm-voting-problems/5616629002/

Recorded ballot counts in 72% of Detroit's absentee voting precincts didn't match the number of ballots cast, spurring officials in Michigan's largest county to ask the state to investigate ahead of a pivotal presidential election.

Without an explanation from Detroit election workers for the mismatches, the Wayne County Board of Canvassers requested this week for Secretary of State Jocelyn Benson's office to examine the "training and processes" used in Detroit's Aug. 4 primary, which one official described as a "perfect storm" of challenges. The board is charged with certifying election results.

In 46% of all Detroit's precincts — absentee and Election Day — vote counts were out of balance, according to information presented Tuesday to the Wayne County Board of Canvassers. Specifically, the number of ballots tracked in precinct poll books did not match the number of ballots counted.

The situation could amplify the spotlight on absentee ballots in Michigan ahead of an election for which record levels of mail-in voting are expected and President Donald Trump is already raising concerns about how votes will be handled.

Melania refuses to hold Trump's hand stepping off Air Force

moonsammy says...

I'm Minnesotan. We have a weird collective tendency to say something bland but genial in place of blunt honesty (aka
"Minnesota nice"), and inserting a bit of subtle sarcasm is an informal pastime. I've had literal decades of practice, though it feels subtlety has become rather pointless of late.

BSR said:

Holy crap! My sarcasm meter just jumped to 11!

Do You Regret All Your Lying?

newtboy says...

Hmmmm....
I agree, that's a problem, but if the choice is lonely honesty or lying with friends and family, you probably know which I choose. I've walked away from 1/2 my family because they're dishonest.

As I see it, as long as their pants are on fire, they're gonna get burned. I would hope they would just take their pants off together, even if it's uncomfortable for them to be exposed for a while, but some would rather die than be the odd man out or admit a mistake.

I hope you're right, but i think you may be tricked by wishful thinking. I'm not at all sure he has family, much less that they're the reason he sticks with a con man. I feel like if one woke up to reality, he would shun them as libtards instead of following them into the light. Maybe that's what he fears will happen to him if he calls out the lies.

Edit: ok, if you suggest stick by your family, but don't lie or ignore lies in order to achieve that goal, I'm on board. Disappointment retracted....do you want it redacted too?

BSR said:

I'm saying his love for his family and friends is what he is afraid of losing. That's a pretty big problem. How he handles it depends on if he gets burnt. Maybe it's too big of a leap for him, I don't know.

Edit:

I don't advocate lying. That is his choice. The only thing that may change him will be his lies coming back on him. I say, "Let it be. Speaking words of wisdom, Let it be."
All I do know is, there is a glimmer of hope with him.

Do You Regret All Your Lying?

newtboy says...

More like glass of weak tea calling the kettle black, buddy. Democrats and the mainstream media at it's worst aren't 1/10 the liars their far right extremist counterparts are.

Whataboutism based on pure lies and exaggerations by a repeatedly convicted con man and liar, the man you said has carte Blanche to lie whenever he pleases because only a moron tells the truth if it might hurt him, especially under oath.
🤦‍♂️

Even if that were true, which it is absolutely not, the media is comprised of tens of millions of people worldwide.
Giving you the benefit of pretending to accept your lie, that makes Trump, all on his little lonesome, as big a liar as tens of millions of people you call monstrous liars combined.

Still unbelievably full of shit and incapable of honesty.

Lol....nationalreview, as a source?!? Too funny, Bob. About as biased as they come. If they applied the same standards to any trump speech it wouldn't say he lies repeatedly, it would say he lies constantly when he's even coherent....but they don't apply the same standards, do they. I bet they repeat Trump's new brother lie, another blatantly false and undeniably racist attack on a politician of color. He can't help himself. What a turd you gleefully follow into the sewer.

Names

newtboy says...

I have read that Lee quote too. I think he meant any statues or monuments to the confederacy, but that's just my opinion.

I certainly see a distinction between imperfect but honorable men trying to do right and treasonous racists trying to found a nation rooted in the racist concept that ...."the negro is not equal to the white man; that slavery—subordination to the superior race—is his natural and normal condition. "

I, for one, don't demand perfection from my heros, only honor, honesty, and empathy. Claiming other people are subhuman and naturally subordinate fails on all three counts.

I think it's important to evaluate the reasons many monuments were erected, in the case of confederate monuments it was done to oppose civil rights for non whites, install a permanent reminder of the pervasive racism the confederate was founded on, and to misrepresent history to minimize their ancestors treason.
In the case of the Lincoln emancipation monument, it was to celebrate finally officially recognizing the humanity of a large portion of the population. I would hope anyone bothered by it's depictions 1)understands the history of its creation (thanks for that) and 2)offers to replace it at their expense rather than demand its removal at taxpayer expense.

luxintenebris said:

have read a number of Lee descendants were okay w/removing his statues, too. by now, i'd hope, most folks know R.E.L. said statues weren't gonna be helpful.

“I think it wiser, not to keep open the sores of war but to follow the examples of those nations who endeavored to obliterate the marks of civil strife, to commit to oblivion the feelings engendered.”

of course, he was talking about a gettysburg memorial, so maybe he was reluctant to have a memorial at the site of his gravest error.

but the issue is like most things: complicated. like the lincoln emancipation memorial. get how the couchant slave is a downer, but the fact former slaves paid for its erection, the model for the slave was t.s. eliott grandpa's gardener, a former escaped slave, and is mohammed ali's direct ancestor - is kinda cool. maybe worth having around just to explain all the details around its history.

The Walk.

newtboy jokingly says...

To be fair, it's also produced by REPUBLICANS, who are not known for accuracy or honesty. Considering the source, they were surprisingly accurate, and were way closer than the @harlequinn numbers.

Trump should have blamed bone spurs.

bcglorf said:

It's a joke though, it's not supposed to fair, honest, accurate otherwise, it's just supposed to be funny.

Don't Shoot ...

Joe Biden Faces Questions Over Claims of Civil Rights

newtboy says...

Grandpa Joe, much like grandma Clinton, needs to just fade away and stop dragging down the Democratic party into debates about honesty and giving the Republicans ammunition against them, imo.
Neither one is going to be president.

Antifa thugs behind Andy Ngo disgusting bashing

Drachen_Jager says...

Andy Ngo is a liar. Multiple times on different platforms he's spread outright lies. When he got fired for telling lies, he turned around and wrote an article titled, "Fired for Reporting the Truth".

As far as I can tell, he's never been entirely honest about anything he's presented in the media.

He is not a journalist. Journalists may be biased about the stories they choose to tell and the slant they put on those stories, but there must be some attempt at honesty, or it's just rabble rousing, and inciting to violence. He incites others to do violence upon Muslims regularly through his lies, so wouldn't it be poetic justice if he received some of his own back?

In any case, the guy's so dishonest it wouldn't surprise me at all if the attack was staged in an attempt to raise his profile in conservative circles. And if that turns out to be the case, are you going to apologize for spreading these lies, @bobknight33 ?

Somehow I doubt it. You have about as much honesty as Ngo does.

President Carter on Trump, Russia, and the Election

BSR says...

1)

The blacksmith and the artist
Reflect it in their art
They forge their creativity
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart

Philosophers and plowmen
Each must know his part
To sow a new mentality
Closer to the heart
Yes closer to the heart, yeah, oh -Rush

2)

All this machinery
Making modern music
Can still be open-hearted
Not so coldly charted
It's really just a question
Of your honesty, yeah your honesty

One likes to believe
In the freedom of music
But glittering prizes
And endless compromises
Shatter the illusion
Of integrity, yeah -Rush

You are as selfish with your love as Trump is with his money.
The difference is, you create love on demand. Trump can only lie, cheat and steal for his money. Trump doesn't love his followers. He loves their vote. Imagine how many votes he could get if he just changed his mind. His heart.

3)

What we don’t understand, we fear. What we fear, we judge as evil. What we judge as evil, we attempt to control. And what we cannot control…we attack. -source is proving elusive.

The bleeding hearts and artists make their stand. -Pink Floyd

EPILOGUE: Trump is outnumbered. We have his Trump card and he's pissed.


The Spirit Of Radio


newtboy said:

1) What about me? I do all those things and more. I didn't just change my own brakes, I swapped my own motor. I don't just plow my field, I sow, weed, and harvest that field. I've not only repaired a roof, I've built a few. I know hard work, I was a one man desert racing crew. Now that's hard work, being mechanic, transporter, driver, and pit crew....all at 112 degrees.

2) So, why don't I love Trump? Because I'm a real conservative....ecologically conservative, fiscally conservative, fact based, socially liberal (the government has no place in my bedroom or my body), and insistent on honesty.

Republicans abandoned conservatism before I could vote.

3) THEY fear us now like one fears the 100lb ranting sore ridden meth head at the bus stop, not for our strength and resolve, but our dangerous unpredictability and diseases.

President Carter on Trump, Russia, and the Election

newtboy says...

What about me? I do all those things and more. I didn't just change my own brakes, I swapped my own motor. I don't just plow my field, I sow, weed, and harvest that field. I've not only repaired a roof, I've built a few. I know hard work, I was a one man desert racing crew. Now that's hard work, being mechanic, transporter, driver, and pit crew....all at 112 degrees.

So, why don't I love Trump? Because I'm a real conservative....ecologically conservative, fiscally conservative, fact based, socially liberal (the government has no place in my bedroom or my body), and insistent on honesty.

Republicans abandoned conservatism before I could vote.

THEY fear us now like one fears the 100lb ranting sore ridden meth head at the bus stop, not for our strength and resolve, but our dangerous unpredictability and diseases.

BSR said:

But what about his followers? They love him. Not for his money but for his anger. His anger against those pussy dems and anyone else that doesn't know how to change brakes on a car or plow a field or throw sod or repair a roof or work real hard.

Trump might not make them richer but he can punish them there weak snowflakes. Make this country tough again! Make the world submit again! Make 'em all fear us again.



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