Not true. It never came naturally to me. I've never been a good or natural liar.

True, there may have been some parenting off camera, but I'm only talking about what we know....what we just saw....not what's possible but unlikely.

My mother liked to use large wooden hairbrushes as paddles before solitary confinement. I preferred dad and his belt.

If ruling by fear is your answer, good luck with that.

I've been slapped in the face, spanked with a belt, paddle, hairbrush. All that did for me was to fear my father. He was a cop. A good cop.

What he didn't know is, all that pain just made me find different ways to not get caught. He did not know how to make me not fear him.

You decide if you want your children to fear you too.

BTW, if a screwdriver isn't the answer to remove a lug nut, why use it?

>> ^bareboards2:

It makes me sad, too.
She looks like a completely normal 13 year old girl. In the old days, We used to stand in front our mirrors with a hairbrush and pretend.
Now there is too much money and indulgence for their little princesses.
I think it is terrible that this guy says he "hates" jenna rose. She's 13. Hating on the parents and the producers, okay -- but she is young young young.


Although, she is the one prancing around with the "All About Me" shirt on. I think it's OK to send some bad vibes her way.

Not saying to hate her, but hopefully she'll be able to look back on this at the ripe old age of 16 and say "What was I thinking?"

>> ^bareboards2:

It makes me sad, too.
She looks like a completely normal 13 year old girl. In the old days, We used to stand in front our mirrors with a hairbrush and pretend.
Now there is too much money and indulgence for their little princesses.
I think it is terrible that this guy says he "hates" jenna rose. She's 13. Hating on the parents and the producers, okay -- but she is young young young.


I agree, and I think there should be some serious revision of child-labour/protection laws, see: http://videosift.com/video/Shocking-Music-Video-vertisment-Against-Capitalism

It makes me sad, too.

She looks like a completely normal 13 year old girl. In the old days, We used to stand in front our mirrors with a hairbrush and pretend.

Now there is too much money and indulgence for their little princesses.

I think it is terrible that this guy says he "hates" jenna rose. She's 13. Hating on the parents and the producers, okay -- but she is young young young.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

I know that porn by that definition always existed, but comparing a grecian urn and a Jenna Jameson Blu-ray is hardly a comparison. The difference between ancient porn and today's is a difference of magnitude and pervasiveness.>> ^Ryjkyj:

Don't kid yourself Dag.
Porn has been prolific since men could write on cave walls. From fertility statues, to the walls at Pompeii, to "dancers" in strict religious countries, to the mail-order pics from the civil war, to the hairbrush-spanking-magazines of the 50's and 60's. Don't ever let anyone try to fool you into thinking that the world was at some point, more moral than it is now.
And let's not forget all the stuff that just flies around a person's mind.

Don't kid yourself Dag.

Porn has been prolific since men could write on cave walls. From fertility statues, to the walls at Pompeii, to "dancers" in strict religious countries, to the mail-order pics from the civil war, to the hairbrush-spanking-magazines of the 50's and 60's. Don't ever let anyone try to fool you into thinking that the world was at some point, more moral than it is now.

And let's not forget all the stuff that just flies around a person's mind.

The crux of the anti-gun argument relies on the exact same premise but with a more intelligent solution: People are stupid. Therefore, don't give them guns (or knives for that matter).

The crux of the anti-gun argument is based on the faulty premise that if you remove certain weapons from stupid people that they will not be able to (A) obtain them illegally anyway or (B) harm others in different ways. Your intention is to prevent intentional and accidental death. A noble intent, but the road to hell is paved by such intentions. In the end your solution is to strip away human liberty and dangerous powers to government and history has proven they cannot be trusted. The price is too high.

Tragic as any death is, the number of accidental shootings by cops (or otherwise) is negligible. In 1997 a study was conducted by the CDC and it was learned that out of a total of 32,000 gun deaths, 54% were suicides, 41% are homicides, and the remaining percentage were accidents. A total of 2,314,000 people died in the US in 1997. Eliminating suicides, that means there were 14,720 non-voluntary deaths attributable to guns in 1997. Pick any year you want though. The numbers hold up.

So 0.63% of all US deaths were gun killings. Put that into perspective. 32,000 died from adverse reactions to prescription drugs. You are 2X more likely to die going to the doctor than from a gun. The number of people that died from taking ASPIRIN in 1997 was 7,600. Guns are 2X as dangerous as a bottle of Bayer.

Following your logic, the government should ban anything that causes 14,000+ intentional or accidental deaths a year. That means we ban alcohol, tobacco, motor vehicles, prescriptions drugs, and ladders because too many 'stupid people' are dying from them. Yeah, that's right. Ban the ground and gravity too because more people die from FALLING every year than from guns.

I'm sure your sense of moral outrage does not extend to your glass of beer, your own vehicle, or your pack of ciggies. The anti-gun argument's main problem is that it has arbitrarily decided guns are 'too dangerous' while ignoring other things that represent far greater actual dangers. It is arbitrary, selective, and smacks of personal emotional opinion rather than having any basis in actual hard facts or real-world interactions. But guns are more dramatic, and therefore people with more emotion than sense find tham an easy scapegoat on which to hang thier moral outrage.

You have arbitrarily chosen the UK to gather your statistics

I did that because robbersdog said, "This is why police in the UK should never carry guns". I went to the country under discussion. No other reason.

On the contrary, a gun is a tool that is significantly different from most other tools in that it is intended for killing and killing alone. Compare a gun to say a car, a hairbrush or a computer and you will see that the gun is in fact not at all like these tools.

A gun is a tool like any other. It is an inanimate object that must be wielded. Guns can be used recreationally. They can be filled with various kinds of rounds for non-lethal purposes. As VideoSift has proven, they can be the source of a lot of cool fun, hilarity, entertainment, and harmless destruction of personal property. Like a knife, the primary function is to kill or injure but like any other tool they can fill a variety of needs.

Winston, your arguments are shaky for a number of reasons:

Care to discuss the huge surge in KNIFE killings the UK is experiencing? Ban the guns and the UK turns into a nation of Jack-the-Rippers. Problem is not guns. Problem is stupid people.

The crux of the anti-gun argument relies on the exact same premise but with a more intelligent solution: People are stupid. Therefore, don't give them guns (or knives for that matter).


The context of the argument has also change from that of policeman carrying guns, to that of the general public, which, given the context, invalidates your argument (as it is not the police who are responsible for any surge in knife killings in the UK). But to continue....

You have arbitrarily chosen the UK to gather your statistics, whereas counter statistics can quite easily be found elsewhere in the world. For an example, take a look at the recent history of mass shootings and gun death (or lack thereof) in Australia.


A gun is a tool, like any other.

On the contrary, a gun is a tool that is significantly different from most other tools in that it is intended for killing and killing alone. Compare a gun to say a car, a hairbrush or a computer and you will see that the gun is in fact not at all like these tools.

A tool can make a bad/stupid person better at what they are trying to do badly/stupidly, but take the tool away and they will still do bad/stupid things.

... yes, but less effectively.

Your central posit is that if guns didn't exist, people wouldn't die of violent causes. Bollocks.

I'm quite sure that you have exaggerated his central posit, which is this: if guns didn't exist, fewer people would die of violent causes.

Furthermore, you say:
Pht - don't turn this into an anti-gun thing. That debate is a dead horse.
... yet then promptly spark up a debate. In fact the anti-gun "thing" is not a dead horse in many of the world's states and reducing access to guns has proven very successful in some countries.

Winterzauber, "Winter Magic"

More info from the artist's website: http://www.p-geist.de/start.html

Multimedia art in Zurich: A restaurant is turned into a work of art

english version (translation Julie Draper)
Zurich, 11.27.2005

Beginning at sundown from 11.27 through 12.31.2005, the historically protected building housing the Lake Side Restaurant in Zurich will be transformed into a 450 sqm. three-dimensional video art installation.

It is the work of Berlin-based multimedia artist Philipp Geist, a rising star in the young art scene. Together with the symphony orchestra OBC Barcelona and the Finnish sound ensemble Pan Sonic, Philipp Geist appeared as a video artist at the opening of the Sonar Festival in Barcelona in 2004. He was represented at the Dissonanze Festival in Rome, at Clubtransmediale in Berlin and at the Mutek Festival in Montreal which is renowned for new media. His video works have been exhibited at important international art institutions including the Central House of Artists (CHA) in Moscow, the Institute of Contemporary Art (ICA) in London, the National Gallery in Warsaw (Zacheta), at the opening of the Pinakothek der Moderne in Munich – and now for the first time in switzerland.

For his work in Zurich, the 29 year-old Berlin-based artist deliberately avoids the use of canvases and instead projects directly onto the concrete building façades and windows which have been prepared with a special projection foil. Every evening, visitors can expect to see a selection of images alternating between purist, dreamlike and intangibly fragile compositions. The starting foundation for all of Philipp Geist’s work is video material solely filmed and produced by himself. Geist finds the subjects for his work in everyday things like hairbrushes, leaves, raindrops and curtains. He releases these objects from their usual setting and places them in new visual and correlated contexts by employing special camera and video techniques using motion blur and superimposition.

Especially for Winterzauber (Winter Magic) in Lake Side, Philipp Geist went in search of wintry, Christmasy motifs which attempt to break the link to consumption and indulgence, and instead direct visitors’ attention toward the pure aesthetic component that is all too often obscured by the kitschy madness of Christmas.

It is in this way that a ride along the highly commercialized Oxford Street in London takes on a completely new appearance as it is seen through a window pane. Distorted by the raindrops at night, it allows viewers only a vague impression of the twinkling Christmas lights. Microscopic close-ups give sparklers, burned down candles and snowflakes an element of diversity that would have remained unappreciated by the human eye without the aid of technology.

By opting to use the three-dimensional, defined structure contours as projection surfaces instead of canvases, Geist increases the motifs’ abstraction while simultaneously regaining depth and diversity. In this way, Geist initiates a dialogue between the historically protected architecture, his artistic work and the people going in and out of the structure: The visitor himself becomes part of the projected image on the threshold between the inside and outside of the building.

Geist allows a wintry world to emerge in front of visitors’ eyes. The subject matter and motifs, although familiar, astonish with their size and unusual presentation while altering the observer’s perception and challenging conventional viewing habits.

Given that the opening of Geist’s work will coincide with the first day of Advent, it will be intriguing to see how he uses his playful, artistic interpretation to approach winter and Christmas themes. One thing is for certain: Visitors will be able to immerse themselves in a tranquil, wintry, dreamlike world of lights.

"Winterzauber" 2005 at Lake Side
Videoart installation by Philipp Geist
open daily from 11.27 - 12.30.05, 6:00 pm – 12 am
12.31.05, 6:00 pm – 5:00 am