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mintbbb (Member Profile)

Visual Effects In Movies: The Green Screen

Visual Effects In Movies: The Green Screen

Vanishing Illusion

Vanishing Illusion

Deano (Member Profile)

What I Am Legend would have looked like with non-CG monsters

Xaielao says...

When CGI is used right, it is awesome. With new facial mo cap techniques it can even look almost lifelike. But yes there are certainly times (to often these days) that CG is used as a crutch to carry a film, such as the newer Starwars movies. Actors spent so much time on green sets where cars were just green foam blocks they sat on and they spend almost their entire time talking to nothing, it produced only bad acting and painfully unrealistic CG characters.

I think Avatar was a success because there was very little 'actor to cg' interaction. Most the areas were sets instead of green screen so actors could immerse themselves into their part much better. Sure there was plenty of green screen in the movie. The forest areas, riding on the raptors,etc but it was just the right mix.

I'm to much an old school B movie fan. If you can do something with actual sets and miniatures, with only CG where you really cant do it otherwise, you'll have a much better movie than actors spending all their time sitting on blue foam talking to empty space.

What I Am Legend would have looked like with non-CG monsters

quantumushroom says...

Hells yes. Bet you don't even remember that Jabba the Hutt was briefly seen in The Phantom Menace.

Watching the animatronic Jabba in ROTJ you can "feel" his weight just by watching him.

But, the march of progress...Avatar sucked, but that CG was a triumph.

>> ^Sagemind:

I'm so completely tired of CG characters. I believe that's partialy what killed the Star Wars Experience in the new films.
When I was a kid, the magic came from the behind the scenes making of sets, ships and creatures. The CGI aliens just don't have that tangent real feeling. Sure they make a great stand in and I understand certain things just can't be done in reality but use the real Creature Creation wherever possible.
Use the green screen for sets and for group or far shots but at close up, Use Real.
Imagine if all the Orcs in LOTR were CGI. Sure they used CGI but they had a hell of a lot of actual guys in makeup and costume to sell it as well. I know, Gollum was CGI, wouldn't have been my choice but they did put a lot of effort into him.
I believe with today's technology for Real effects, Creature Creation (and added CGI where needed), they could make far more convincing characters where we would identify with them emotionally as well as visually.

What I Am Legend would have looked like with non-CG monsters

Sagemind says...

I'm so completely tired of CG characters. I believe that's partialy what killed the Star Wars Experience in the new films.

When I was a kid, the magic came from the behind the scenes making of sets, ships and creatures. The CGI aliens just don't have that tangent real feeling. Sure they make a great stand in and I understand certain things just can't be done in reality but use the real Creature Creation wherever possible.

Use the green screen for sets and for group or far shots but at close up, Use Real.

Imagine if all the Orcs in LOTR were CGI. Sure they used CGI but they had a hell of a lot of actual guys in makeup and costume to sell it as well. I know, Gollum was CGI, wouldn't have been my choice but they did put a lot of effort into him.

I believe with today's technology for Real effects, Creature Creation (and added CGI where needed), they could make far more convincing characters where we would identify with them emotionally as well as visually.

DubFX, Mr Woodnote, CAde and Pete Philly - SuperNova pilot

ghark says...

Well I'm glad to know it was recorded live, was worried for a minute that they used a green-screen and layered in a high quality CGI Amsterdam.

Great song though, love his music.

Old Spice: Behind the Scenes

Sarzy (Member Profile)

RvB2: Ryan vs. Brandon 2

spoco2 says...

Yeah, very much ditto on the 'nice effect, shame about the lack of tension or feeling of flow. There are many parts where there's a momentary lull where they pause between their moves. They never seem to be angered or tense or in fear. Demonstrates that it's not as easy as people think to make a good fight scene.

I completely disagree with the call for a green screen though, doing as much with physical things is always better... use your environment, ground it in reality and it'll always be better.

RvB2: Ryan vs. Brandon 2

AeroMechanical says...

Would definitely have given them more opportunities to showcase their effects, perhaps just replacing one wall with a view of some alien panorama or giant killer robot factory or something. But then again, maybe keeping it simple is better.

My primary complaint is that a lot of the time it looks like their swinging for each other's lightsabers more so than for each other. Also, in the dual lightsaber bits, there are several places where blue shirt guy could easily have got red shirt guy with his left hand saber but instead it just hung limp.

I'm being annoyingly nitpicky because it says its for a video competition, and so I believe is fair game for nit pickery.

>> ^Drax:

I find it odd saying this, but a green screen would have completed the awesomeness (or at least a Star Wars'ey set)

RvB2: Ryan vs. Brandon 2



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