Christ, it makes me wonder what the final boss of Florida is. I was thinking it's that golf course crocodile, but it seems they have no end of terrifying monsters.

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Back to the Future.

Married with Children.

The Simpsons.

Ferris Buehler's anarchist ideology towards his and Cameron's upper class parents. Handing over the car keys to the lower class joy riders.

The Goonies going on adventures to prevent a golf course from overtaking their upper class lifestyle.

Was Mikey about to become middle class?! Holy shit. The Goonies is about retaining your social position in order to fund misadventure. And the rise of the middle class Hispanic family! i.e. Rosalita discovering the jewels in the marble bag.

Everything from the '80s involving a family was about -- Anyone? Anyone? -- Voodoo Economics.

We have boots on the ground in Waziristan, pakistan and Yemen?

What diff does it make to you if it's a missile off an unmanned aircraft or a missile off a manned aircraft?

Drones are looking where there are no other assets. They see a guy planting an IED, they can take care of it right then. But I would imagine the process involves intelligence-gathering, a target, then a trip to the WH to get approval.

I don't believe Obama is just sticking a pin in a map, unless it involves golf courses he hasn't yet played.

Now, if you want to say you don't trust Obama to do the right thing...that we can agree on.

@gorillaman

If a global population of less than 1 billion is desirable in your eyes, then do you desire the death or sterilization of 6/7th's of the people you know? Or perhaps you desire the death or sterilization of 7/7th's of the people you DON'T know?

This world is simultaneously overpopulated (with wasteful, self-destructive type people) and under populated (with selfless, garden loving infinite sustainable type people). It's not about number.

Until every golf course, front yard, and public park is covered in hyper dense, square foot type gardens, overpopulation (based on quantity) is a complete myth.

It's not my job to police the world by forced population policies. Nor is it David Suzuki's job. Nor Obama's job. Nor gorillaman's job. Nor anyone else's. The best a man can do is to control his own activities and teach his neighbor the virtues of his infinitely sustainable choices.

Every golf course's nightmare right there.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2565697/House-fit-tyrant-Protestors-storm-sprawling-luxury-estate-Ukraines-fugitive-president-private-zoo-golf
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Protesters have now seized the presidential palace. FUCK YEAH!

Heroes in the Ukraine today, may the rest of the world follow suit accordingly when the time is ripe.

Coyote's are typically pretty timid and won't let you get close to them... however, there are those that have become used to humans, and will hang out around garbage bins and populated areas for easy dinners. We have a few that hang out under the shade trees of the back 9 of the local golf course in the evenings down here in west Texas, and as soon as the unsold hot dogs go in the dumpster, they dine.

Um, so where did he say "because a drone strike . . . " ? I didn't see or hear him say it. So without that, there's nothing special here.

"hack·er [hak-er] Show IPA
noun
1.
a person or thing that hacks.
2.
Slang. a person who engages in an activity without talent or skill: weekend hackers on the golf course.
3.
Computer Slang.
a.
a computer enthusiast.
b.
a microcomputer user who attempts to gain unauthorized access to proprietary computer systems."

Well, I'd be damned. It seems according to the dictionary he is a hacker. Hmmmm.

First entertaining thing that's happened on a golf course EVER!.

@renatojj dont worry, I too am enjoying our conversation. Back to the topic at hand

My definition of coercion: http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/coerce
"persuade (an unwilling person) to do something by using force or threats"

That means in any situation where one has a higher degree of power then the other person, there is risk of coercion. Especially in cases of employment there is a large discrepancy between the power of the employee vs the power of the employer. Employers can coerce in numerous ways, by saying you will get fired if you dont, you will not get a raise, you will not be promoted, you will be demoted, and so on.

What can the employee do? He or she can stop working there. Unless there is a shortage of workers (which country in the last 50 years has had that?) that will not overly upset the employer, so the employees negotiation power is limited.

So what is coercion in practical sense? Working 14 hours for 8 hours of pay or get fired? Working 14 hours for 8 hours of pay to get a promotion? If you look at the definition both are coercion as the employee does something he would otherwise be unwilling to do (work unpaid hours) because of (the unspoken) threats. Threat to lose the job or threat to not get the promotion.

So what do I mean with powerful? Exactly that, the ones with more power in any situation. They can be rich, but they dont have to be. Off course, where power reside, usually riches follow or vice versa.

Laziness is part of the human condition. Everyone is lazy, and everyone is not. I have seen toilet ladies work 14 hours shift 6 days a week and I have seen CEOs spend most of their time on golf courses and vice versa. Laziness is dependent on your motivation and on what you can get away with. Nobody will do work they dont have to if they dont like it. And everyone will work their butt of if they really like and want to do it. If the other option is starvation, trust me, no one is lazy.

Employees actually are entitled to something. Employment is a contract between one giving his free hours and the other giving goods (or money) in return. Charity is not. Coercion can follow as many things are not clarified in the contract, or are clarified but later are demanded or not given anyway. In charity there is no contract, hence no agreement on what should be given or received hence no coercion as there is no base of power. You can argue that as the receiver needs the money, it is possible to coerce him or her by offering and asking something he doesnt want to give in return, ie persuading him to do something he would otherwise not have done. That is not charity, that is employment ;-)

Hoping to spend the next 3 months clean.Must...pass..follicle test for *COUGH job opportunity that may prove fatal as close to four bits as it is for me-
What is a boilermaker anyhow?

Currently unemployed, until next week when I'll be appearing as a maintenance technician at a well-established rural golf course. (Clean-up plan: Work wrenches and lawnmowers for 3 months and bail~Free golf on my days off + 1.

Clean living for chump change then off to a gig that pays with cool hours (2 weeks on, 7-12's, two weeks off)-Plan to save a shitload of cabbage and continue evading federal income taxes like my grandfather before me. (Filed maybe 3 times in the last 30 years)

Oh fuck, Googles' gonna read this and forward it to improper authorities huh?

I would argue that China's "one child" policy might have something to do with the negative effects of overpopulation, but that's a different conversation.

I really am curious as to the answer to the question: What use could we possibly have for filling the earth to carrying capacity? Not to mention the effects that reaching human capacity might have on... all the other life on earth.

It wouldn't actually take that much to accomplish something. Free access to birth control for everyone and a little bit of education could go a really long way. Even if only one in a thousand people listened or used contraception because of it, population rates would decrease dramatically.

You keep saying we're well within capacity, but problems like overfishing, the depleting oil/energy supply, the food supply, the need for arable land... these problems actually exist right now. Even with advancements, capacity is a problem right now. All the energy that we put into trying to implement the solutions to these problems could already be getting applied to making them better. Instead of trying to fix problems as they arise, we could avoid them completely and spend our time on other things.

Maybe you're right, maybe it is just hype, but I just can't help but think that the energy spent on reducing the world's population would solve many more problems, way more efficiently than just eliminating Hummers, golf courses and fast food, and then waiting three-hundred years to see if the numbers drop.

China's selective pregnancy policy and the Holocaust are why people tend to want to dispel hype about overpopulation.

You either have to force 7 billion people to stop fucking.. [good luck]
Or murder like 6 billion people.. every 300 years.

Notice how I said carrying capacity is "at least" 10 billion.
Its maximum is probably closer to 16-20 billion. Maybe even 40 billion.

This last billion took a year long to reach than the billion before which means population is leveling off as we discuss this. It may even decline below 7 billion in another 300 - 600 years.

TL;DR

Overpopulation hype = Dec 21 2012 hype. Humans well within carrying capacity.

Stop driving Hummers, watering golf courses, and eating fast food and everyone will be healthy and happy.

>> ^Ryjkyj:

Fuck, as a matter of fact Genji, you're right. We could probably get that number up to a hundred-billion if we just covered the entire surface of the Earth with vertical farms and thorium reactors.