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^ My answer to why it shouldn't be a request to admins is here: http://www.videosift.com/talk/Siftquistions#comment-653210

Also, I consider gold stars to be the first level of admin - and the link is only displayed to that level and above

Lastly - I'm thinking 72 hours is too loooong for swift justice - it's kind of cruel to leave a sifter standing on the gallows for so long.

Furthermore, how in the blue hell can you put forth an argument against the legalisation of pot based on law enforcement redundancy? It's exactly the same as if we'd continued capital punishment because ridding ourselves of it would put hangmen out of business, not to mention all the large ceremonial axes that would suddenly go unsold. Then whetstones to sharpen them, gallows and rope sales would go down rapidly, gallows builders would have to retrain and possibly go on unemployment, our jails would get fuller, it's all a terrible terrible idea.

You need to have your head examined pal. There are SO many reasons for legalisation of cannibis, and i've yet to hear one against it other than "i don't like it" which often equates to "i don't know anything about it".

All this talk about addiction is fine, but what about alcohol addiction? What about tobacco addiction? You really, really need to think about that in detail and just exactly what the differences between tobacco and pot are. Pot is actually better for your long term health than tobacco, less easily habit forming, and there are no real solid proofs anywhere of mental health issues that i've come across to date. So it's better for you than tobacco, but it makes you giggle and/or trip out a little.

So does salvia, and THAT'S FUCKING LEGAL, WHERE IS THE FUCKING SENSE?

The next argument against pot we'll see is the "strong strains such as skunk are blah blah blah" well you can shove that right up your arse too. I've never tried skunk, never tried any kind of "super strong" strain of it. I've smoked some basic run of the mill weed which i could grow for myself, and i had an absolutely fantastic time doing it. I also alleviated a migraine with it. Never hurt anyone, never hurt myself, never woke up feeling like a sack of vomit and diareah unlike some legal social drugs, never stole anything in my life, never considered harder drugs (other than i'd love to try LSD in a controlled environment with supervision), and i'm pretty damn intelligent to boot.

Spare us all the bullshit and get right down to the truth - you're scared of something you don't understand and have never experienced, and why are you scared? Because that's how you've been brought up, indoctrinated, call it what you will.

>> ^quantumushroom:
I kind of wish Obama's first priority as president would be to prepare the gallows.
He is, but for the US economy...and Olbyloon's last gasp of a career.


Sure, 8 years of Bush had nothing to do with the Economy failing.

I kind of wish Obama's first priority as president would be to prepare the gallows.

He is, but for the US economy...and Olbyloon's last gasp of a career.

I kind of wish Obama's first priority as president would be to prepare the gallows.

^you asserted that the US is a constitutional democracy, and i refuted your assertion with this:

"how can you simultaneous have a rule of law and a rule of majority? it is a contradiction of terms. if there is a law, it doesn't matter what the majority thinks. if there is a majority rule, it doesn't matter what the laws are."

you didn't reply to it. all you did was repeat the label you got from the modern world.

i could care less if hateful, evil people dismiss my comments. i don't have any interest in talking to people like that--my only interest with people like that is with the gallows or a jail cell.

There are certain realities in this world that hardcore moonbats (but not you) simply can't accept. One is that America is the greatest country on God's green earth. Another is that communism and its addle-brained cousin socialism are both failures that calcify the human spirit. A third is that it's beyond foolish to compare the merits of 7th-century savages with the modern West.

While latte-sippers argue the merits of the term, "Islamofascism" the animals themselves are still beating their wives and sisters to death under the guise of "honor killings". They don't have debates, they run knives through the necks of those that disagree with them. And because 9-11 happened so very long ago, it's now OK for you to forget they're out there.

Well, they haven't forgotten you.

The left acknowledges this threat to the West, you say? When? Was it when Sean Penn visited saddam in his palace? Or the string of anti-American, anti-US-military flops being shat out of whoreywood by liberal celebrities? THAT is their 'thank you' to the soldiers who put their lives on the line so they have the freedom to churn out such vile, contemptible crap and show ingratitude to the millions of decent Americans who put as many dollars in their pockets.

You're delusional. You hate Bush (and now McCain) more than bin laden. You sneer at the righteous disposal of a worthless cur like saddam and cluck your tongues at the Iraqis trying on freedom instead of living under a tyrant's whip. Who are you to be ashamed of America, the greatest force for good in this world? Who sapped your values and stole your beliefs? It had to be Bush, right? The same guy that "caused" Katrina? Please.

Do you even know what a "neocon" is? How could you compare this phony term when you don't know the first thing about conservatism except what your media masters and corrupt government schools (and liberalsift) have preached?

And this messiah you have chosen? The One who promises to punish all those evil rich people (who already pay 60% of the nation's taxes). Barry has already covered his ass this week, reminding his staff (with the media watching) that the people who vote for him shouldn't expect too much, right away. In other words, he pumped ya up, and he doesn't want anyone deflating too quickly when they discover he has no special powers.

Divisive language? No doubt. But I'm not sending people to the gallows for violating a fascistic politically-correct speech code.

You should be grateful, you American sifters, for all you have RIGHT NOW, and not pine for what treasures Barry promises to plunder on your behalf.

Am I "insane"? As I 'sift' through stomach-churning comments of hatred towards God and country, the wretched cynicism and bitterness of people too young for either, I half-wish I was insane.

If I insulted thee, I meant it. That doesn't mean I don't love you. I prefer clarity to agreement. And that's how it will be.

He became a man the day of the greatest game he ever played. Everything he ever knew about common decency and morality he learned that day in October from Alan "The Horse" Ameche; and today in the SifTalk he would earn his wings. The crowd had assembled; a crowd of America's elite. Toyota salesmen from all around the country -- orientals and even those suspected of being orientals -- stacked on the thirty yard line watching him sweat and wipe caked blood from his face. The Gallow brothers -- Ernest and Julio -- party guys who had skinned a few Mexicans and forced them to carry them on their shoulders down to the pre-game tailgate parties at the colosseum. The Pepsi and Coca Cola bottlers of America -- Coke adds life; It's the real thing -- bombarded by missiles; flying flaming matchbook covers. The waterheads from General Motors up in the top seats where they belong; getting the worst of the pollution. All sorts of weird motherfuckers were at the Talk.
- Where the Buffalo Roam

MINK, there's a pretty distinct difference between the person on FOX and this comic. FOX is nominally a news agency, and so presumably there's supposed to be some measure of integrity displayed.

But even failing that, "Osa--oba--Osama, I mean, Obama, well, both if we could, hur hur hur," is utterly different from a comic verbalizing (seemingly in empathy) the emotion that a lot of people really do feel--"This is a great man, and so many times in the past fifty years, that has ended in tragedy."

There's gallows humor, and then there's the FOX woman.

This disgusted me. We're at war, the economy is in the shitter, and our leaders are so insulated from the suffering it borders on the obscene.

Cheney's gallows humor wouldn't be so offensive if he was making light of his own hanging, rather than the country he purports to lead.

>> ^jwray:
> I am most definitely not going to ever to commit suicide because there is no afterlife.

funny. that's one of the reasons i was going to.
even funnier, to me, that a belief that there is an afterlife, is the reason some people do.

and no, it wasn't like yesterday or anything, so don't go all mushy on me.
it's not all that dramatic an admission, so let (s)he who has never wanted to, cast the first gasp.

it's why most of you already know hanging yourself is a bad choice.
too easy to fuck up, and die of asphyxiation. instead of falling from a significant height, so that your neck snaps.

only 2 kind of people will generally resort to it.
a) the shoelace hanging. in prison, or elsewhere without normal availability to a gun, pills, etc.
b) the self-condemned. the association with capital punishment allows those with an extremely guilty conscience, who think they deserve it, go to the gallows as they had probably planned.

that's my list, anyway. then there's the non-suicide michael hutchence scenario, where you didn't actually plan on dying, just getting your rocks off toying with your death.

in her case, a) definitely doesn't apply. one might argue b) could, but it's paper-thin. she was a pimp, not a killer. the laws she broke weren't hurting anyone, and i doubt she felt an ounce of guilt for selling sex.

but people like alex jones lose their credibility, by going from possibility, to certainty. instead of just admitting they've got questions, they go ahead and fill in the blanks themselves.

is it fishy? sure.
will anything come of it? almost certainly not, in which case we've all got bigger fish to fry.

So a war criminal throws out the first pitch at a baseball game and all he gets is booed? He's lucky they hadn't built a gallows on home plate.

MarineGunrock, it's been 6 years, some non-directional gallows humor is allowed.

Back to the stuff, I wonder how ballistic-proof it is, or can be made to be? Be decent to save some lives and limbs in Iraq and Afghanistan even though no, we can't save the Towers now.

Already in 385 C.E. the first Christians, the Spanish Priscillianus and six followers, were beheaded for heresy in Trier/Germany
Manichaean heresy: a crypto-Christian sect decent enough to practice birth control (and thus not as irresponsible as faithful Catholics) was exterminated in huge campaigns all over the Roman empire between 372 C.E. and 444 C.E. Numerous thousands of victims.
Albigensians: the first Crusade intended to slay other Christians.
The Albigensians (cathars = Christians allegedly that have all rarely sucked) viewed themselves as good Christians, but would not accept roman Catholic rule, and taxes, and prohibition of birth control.
Begin of violence: on command of pope Innocent III (greatest single pre-nazi mass murderer) in 1209. Bezirs (today France) 7/22/1209 destroyed, all the inhabitants were slaughtered. Victims (including Catholics refusing to turn over their heretic neighbours and friends) 20,000-70,000.
* Carcassonne 8/15/1209, thousands slain. Other cities followed.
* subsequent 20 years of war until nearly all Cathars (probably half the population of the Languedoc, today southern France) were exterminated.
* After the war ended (1229) the Inquisition was founded 1232 to search and destroy surviving/hiding heretics. Last Cathars burned at the stake 1324.
* Estimated one million victims (cathar heresy alone),
* Other heresies: Waldensians, Paulikians, Runcarians, Josephites, and many others. Most of these sects exterminated, (I believe some Waldensians live today, yet they had to endure 600 years of persecution) I estimate at least hundred thousand victims (including the Spanish inquisition but excluding victims in the New World).
* Spanish Inquisitor Torquemada alone allegedly responsible for 10,220 burnings.
* John Huss, a critic of papal infallibility and indulgences, was burned at the stake in 1415.
* University professor B.Hubmaier burned at the stake 1538 in Vienna.
* Giordano Bruno, Dominican monk, after having been incarcerated for seven years, was burned at the stake for heresy on the Campo dei Fiori (Rome) on 2/17/1600.

# 5th century: Crusades against Hussites, thousands slain.
# 1538 pope Paul III declared Crusade against apostate England and all English as slaves of Church (fortunately had not power to go into action).
# 1568 Spanish Inquisition Tribunal ordered extermination of 3 million rebels in (then Spanish) Netherlands. Thousands were actually slain.
# 1572 In France about 20,000 Huguenots were killed on command of pope Pius V. Until 17th century 200,000 flee.
# 17th century: Catholics slay Gaspard de Coligny, a Protestant leader. After murdering him, the Catholic mob mutilated his body, "cutting off his head, his hands, and his genitals... and then dumped him into the river [...but] then, deciding that it was not worthy of being food for the fish, they hauled it out again [... and] dragged what was left ... to the gallows of Montfaulcon, 'to be meat and carrion for maggots and crows'."
# 17th century: Catholics sack the city of Magdeburg/Germany: roughly 30,000 Protestants were slain. "In a single church fifty women were found beheaded," reported poet Friedrich Schiller, "and infants still sucking the breasts of their lifeless mothers."
# 17th century 30 years' war (Catholic vs. Protestant): at least 40% of population decimated, mostly in Germany.

Chromophobia, 1966

"Raoul Servais achieved international acclaim with his ground-breaking, anti-militarist fable on repression, perseverance, and the indomitability of the human spirit, Chromophobia, a compact, yet articulate parable of an aggressive, chromophobic army that marches into an idyllic kingdom and systematically terrorizes the population by erasing all traces of color within its periphery, until a little girl unexpectedly cultivates a lone, resilient red flower in her garden. Evoking the instinctual compositions of a more geometric Joan Miró, the film is particularly remarkable in Servais' illustration of resonant, iconic symbolism: a balloon that is converted into a ball and chain mirrors the town's spiritual captivity, the transformation of trees into gallows represents the corrupted interrelation between life and unnatural death in times of war, flowers emerging from the barrel of a rifle reflects a restoration of peace and gesture of renewed humanity."

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