You're welcome, you ol' sow libeler. I have no desire to see you banned. As much as I wish you'd be less hostile and insulting, I do enjoy arguing with you. I want to win arguments with you, not silence you.

Setting aside my fondness for beating the tar out of you, I think it would have been a pretty grave injustice for me to stay silent and let you get punished because of a misunderstanding, even if I truly hated your guts. I only saw one moral choice on the table, and that was to speak up.

Since you seem to want to at least sorta make this ideological, what do you think? Did I have a moral obligation to tell the truth, or was either choice a valid moral option?

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
Thanks, pig fucker. So easily someone with a particular gumption could've lobbied to have me banned, and by the looks of it it appears ol' Siftler isn't too interested in hearing testimony before sending people to the gallows. I'm ban number three inside of two weeks, right?

Anyhow, thanks for jumping in and giving another side to the story. Freedom works. People do help others even when not incentivized to do so.

In reply to this comment by NetRunner:
I can't believe I'm standing up for @blankfist, but he and I call each other pig fucker all the time. It's just one of those terms of endearment you come to use for each other when you've spent years arguing like an old married couple.

Thanks, pig fucker. So easily someone with a particular gumption could've lobbied to have me banned, and by the looks of it it appears ol' Siftler isn't too interested in hearing testimony before sending people to the gallows. I'm ban number three inside of two weeks, right?

Anyhow, thanks for jumping in and giving another side to the story. Freedom works. People do help others even when not incentivized to do so.

In reply to this comment by NetRunner:
I can't believe I'm standing up for @blankfist, but he and I call each other pig fucker all the time. It's just one of those terms of endearment you come to use for each other when you've spent years arguing like an old married couple.

In reply to this comment by dag:
There was a previous warning about personal attacks and name-calling in that very thread. In the interest of providing a community environment where people can participate without being called things like "pig fucker", I'm suspending you for two weeks. Thanks for your understanding.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
>> ^Januari:

Oh no... you'd never do that Blankie... It's so much easier to just refer to everyone who disagrees with you as 'idiots' and then lecture to everyone about courtesy and the merits of 'making an argument'... Hypocrites preach civility when it suits them... and call people idiots when it doesn't...


I call statists idiots. I didn't say @Januari is an idiot, or @bareboards2 is an emotional mess, or @smooman is a retard, @bmacs27 is moron and so on. I've been guilty of ad hom on here many times, but this isn't one of those cases, and I've tried to be careful not to do it. So please call me out for it.

And certainly when I'm in the majority on here (which isn't often), I try not to team up and bully people. Unless it's @NetRunner. I do have a perverse fascination with tormenting that pig fucker.

>> ^shinyblurry:

Cursing your foolishness, you are taken to the gallows, but there is no reprieve forthcoming.


... because he loves you!

How do you prove something that exists outside of space and time? What physical process could you use to point to it? Anyone could go and examine you and verify whether you have "laser eyes". There is no way to put God under a microscope.

Therefore, we rely on Him to communicate with us. Faith is in the unseen, it is not blind. I don't believe in God because the bible told me to. I believe in God because He showed me He is real. He would show you too, if you honesty sought Him out. Yet, you just believe what you've heard and haven't looked for the truth yourself.

Lets say there was a certain King, whom you had never seen..and you are one of his peasants. You're under his authority and expected to work for him in the fields for a wage, and that when you are of the age of retirement, he will give you a home on his land and thank you personally. You see soldiers of his, marching through the town. You hear people talking about his attributes, his justness and intelligence. You witness his authority displayed all around you. It is plain there is a King though you had never seen him.

Now lets say one day you refuse to work, refuse to submit to his authority. You say to yourself, I don't believe this King is really real; I've never seen him with my own eyes.. This a conspiracy, I will just do whatever I want. You even decide to go into the towns square to tell others to stop working for this King. That it is a fools errand, the King is a hoax you say. You're wasting your lives when you could live for yourself! Yet, when the King gets wind of this he tells his soldiers "Fetch my ungrateful servant and bring him in front of me"

The soldiers fetch you and bring you before the throne. Finally, you get to see this King with your own eyes. Yet, it's too late..you've already earned His judgment. If you had pleased him the evidence would have been forthcoming. If you had done a good job, you would have earned a reward. Instead you refused to do your duty, and thus earned a criminals fate. Cursing your foolishness, you are taken to the gallows, but there is no reprieve forthcoming.

>> ^Sketch:
You CANNOT prove the non-existence of something like this! It's the same old Celestial Teapot, Pink Unicorn, Flying Spaghetti Monster issue! As with my laser eyes, prove that they don't exist! It is a ridiculous thing to even request!

>> ^Gallowflak:

Yes. Because maintaining the possibility that he had a weapon, and stole the wheelchair he's in, isn't a massive fucking leap of faith at all.


Well, I don't buy the 'he had a weapon,' however, the police did...and when your right next to someone, that means that in one second the weapon can transfer hands.

Next, what would you do against someone bracing themselves against an immovable object (As is clear in this video.) I am not judging you Gallow, I am asking a serious question. Do you rip his arm off his hover-round? And if so, take the risk of snapping his arm? How do you handcuff him from his back since you cannot reasonably make him stand to handcuff him?

>> ^Matthu:

>> ^blankfist:
Democracy in action. Government is good.

What does democracy have to do with private prisons?? How are prisoners housed and rehabilitated in your 'free' society??
Or do you just send them to the gallows?


Oh, I didn't know Wal*Mart sentenced these people. My bad.

>> ^blankfist:

Democracy in action. Government is good.


What does democracy have to do with private prisons?? How are prisoners housed and rehabilitated in your 'free' society??

Or do you just send them to the gallows?

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*dead

LYRICS:

Only rapper to be called a thief without stealing
Download an MP3 for free, these people hit the ceiling
I'm just a citizen that's teaching you a lesson
for restricting my freedom of expression
How can ideas be possessions when they're freely replicable?
Hence unapplicable property laws are reprehensible
Didn't Jefferson express his opinion on the matter
when he said inventions shouldn't be given a patent
What happened to that thinking, we're stuck in a pattern
where the people with everything are keeping everything from us who haven't
We want it back, look, fed up of adverts, left and right
begging me to buy til there's nothing left of mine
to spend, never mind, who's next in line to testify
that we need laws like these to protect our rights?
Medicine has never been something I'd ever deprive
especially when a life depends on it to survive
Yeah, it takes an incredible effort to develop them right
but putting wealth over health, I said it's never been right

I'm just a citizen that's teaching you a lesson
for restricting my freedom of expression, and I reckon
if old blues themes hadn't been used by Led Zeppelin
we wouldn't ever have any heavy metal then
the history of music would have never even happened
and amusingly there wouldn't even be a Metallica
to tell us that we should hang on the gallows of law
so we wouldn't even need to have a Gallo Report
Oh and by the way the fricking Gallo's support
is made of signatures which have been apparently forged
This shit is sinister, and cannot be allowed to enforce
so tell your ministers and MEPs of how it's been brought about
Although you'll probably get a shallow retort
because the lobbyists have got a grip around all their balls
If I was boss, I'd tell them get the Hell out the door
because I've had enough of corrupt crooks ramming through laws

I'm just a citizen that's teaching you a lesson
for restricting my freedom of expression
Yes, and deep packet inspection? squeeze that up your rectum
If your postman did that to you you'd be having him sectioned
arrested for meddling in your private affairs
But it's only online, right? so why should we care?
Because digital rights should be applicable right
here in real life, and we're not criminals, right?
So this is just why we'll never give up the fight
to be considered innocent until we kick up and die
Giving internet providers responsibility
for the whims of their subscribers infringes privacy
Before the internet, media was a rarity
but how do you expect it to keep its value without scarcity
And that's what scares me, seeing their cons and schemes
to stop their creaking business model being obsolete
What a robbery they pull off so obviously
Don't give a fuck who it affects as long as it's not me
Well I'll keep making copies, see if they can stop me
They'll have to confiscate my PC and take it off me
See there's no problem with taking my property
for creating some lines of binary, blatant hypocrisy
Afraid to face the controversy relating to what we need
Making a profit off it or breaking monopolies

Somebody is dirtying the sample. That stack of videos, several of them were never declared dead. Including the Peter Gabriel video- which is my sift. Now, back to the gallows! :-)

You pathetic fools. You think Jesus hated soldiers? In Mathew there is a clear account of him talking to a nice chilled out legionnaire. He even said the guy would be welcome in heaven, and he wasn't a Jew or baptized for that matter. You think he wanted you killing ANYONE? You know what he did when people came asking for his life? He fucking gave it. Turn the other cheek wasn't just a metaphor. It means if someone hits you in the face you fucking keep your cool.
And while I'm on the subject- Ditch the god damned cross. Fuck, let me see some more fishes for the love of God.
If I'm ever hung, please don't let the gallows become me movements symbol, okay?

Those gallows are clearly not high enough to be a clean kill, any idiot can see that. The rope is about 2 feet long and they're hanging off what looks like a swing like i have in my back garden, it's clearly a strangulation kill. Proper gallows, as anyone who has seen old footage of such contraptions, are very very tall and involve a trapdoor and a long fall to break the neck.

I believe there were cases where the fall was not enough and relatives/friends of the hanged person would go and pull on the legs/feet of the person to make it end quickier and less painfully.

Thank you . That whole "No Quarter" DVD is really good, definitely worth buying.

In reply to this comment by silvercord:
Damn! That was intense. *quality

Bah. Man should get the gallows.

Comment hidden because you are ignoring dag. (show it anyway)

Thank you Siftbot - you'll find the accused, dead, in his cell. Please escort the remains to the gallows and do your duty.