>> ^qruel:
Since we are talking about Mercury... here's some interesting facts...
Gold mines are the nation's largest source of mercury pollution. Like all mining, separating and processing the gold creates tons of toxic metals, like lead and mercury. Nevada is home to eight of the nation's top 10 mercury polluters. Here is a list of the top 100 Some other sources: Coal Fired Power Plants, Cement Kilns, Incinerators, Chlor-alkali Production, Chemical Plants.

In 2005 the FDA did a study that showed mercury in many food products that contained High Fructose Corn Syrup (due to mercury in the caustic soda and hydrochloric acid used in the manufacture of HFCS), and the FDA did absolutely nothing about it.


Presence of "detectable" levels is meaningless unless you name a specific concentration. Nearly everything will randomly contain at least 1 part in 10^20 of whichever stable element you want, which could be measured with a sufficiently accurate mass spectrometer.

Since we are talking about Mercury... here's some interesting facts...

Gold mines are the nation's largest source of mercury pollution. Like all mining, separating and processing the gold creates tons of toxic metals, like lead and mercury. Nevada is home to eight of the nation's top 10 mercury polluters. Here is a list of the top 100 Some other sources: Coal Fired Power Plants, Cement Kilns, Incinerators, Chlor-alkali Production, Chemical Plants.

In 2005 the FDA did a study that showed mercury in many food products that contained High Fructose Corn Syrup (due to mercury in the caustic soda and hydrochloric acid used in the manufacture of HFCS), and the FDA did absolutely nothing about it.

They'd better have some evidence for it's damages before they put somebody in jail...

To think, mothers across America fill their kids guts with high fructose corn syrup enriched meals for breakfast lunch and dinner and yet live free.

>> ^Farhad2000:
> Too much regulation?
> Sub-prime markets and derivatives were fully deregulated due to Greenspan's belief that banks would self regulate.

and you're probably aware that Greenspan was among the most vocal critics of the Federal Reserve, until he got put in charge of it. nice, eh?

but since regulation can be a weaselly and charged term, which rarely gets a proper definition?

the 'regulation' that we need more of is simply the SEC, FBI, etc, being allowed to do their jobs and enforce laws against fraud, insider trading, bribery, and whatnot.

the 'regulation' we could do without is red tape, created solely to justify an ever-inflating budget. or regulation that's just protectionism, or some other intervention into a free market on behalf of either the supply, or demand, side.
one protectionist example paul gave in his last book is american sugar. and it's the reason that, not so long ago and ever since, soda suddenly got made with high-fructose corn syrup instead.

Indeed, manipulative as the ad is, there is is no use fighting this stuff with FUD.
There have been a few basic studies on the dietary impact of glucose and fructose, particular in relation to insulin.

In terms of satiety, this is a fairly recent report :
^ Monsivais et al. (2007). "Sugars and satiety: does the type of sweetener make a difference?". American Journal of Clinical Nutrition 86: 116–123.

Chemically the corn syrup (55% fructose and 45% glucose) used in foods is very similar to sucrose (50% fructose and 50% glucose) and thus mimics its apparent sweetness.
The chief difference, aside from the slight increase in fructose is that sucrose is a disaccharide - the fructose and glucose are covalently bonded by a condensation reaction (removal of a H20).
Corn syrup however, consists of individual molecules of glucose and fructose, which aside from tasting different, can be absorbed more readily by the body : The body requires an enzyme to break down the sucrose into fructose and glucose.

It's pretty clear that refined foods are for the most part bad for us because they deliver nutrients in concentrations far greater than we could ever get by harvesting food by hand. High concentrations of fructose could be problematic.
Honey from bees contains free fructose and glucose molecules (48%,47%), and so would pose a similar risk - the main difference is that honey is not consumed in such vast concentrations as found in soft drinks.

If you really want to taste how much sugar is in a soft drink. Let it go cold and flat and see how much you can drink.
http://www.4hoteliers.com/4hots_fshw.php?mwi=1243

So sadly, I think the advert does have a point: It is probably fine in moderation though perhaps they should have stated (and like honey, it is fine in moderation).

Joe Pesci should really stop letting people take him to uninhabited places. He always ends up whacked.

>> ^kronosposeidon:
I'm originally from Nebraska, so I'll give you some friendly advice, son:
Don't fuck with Big Corn. Unless you want to be chopped up by a combine then scattered just west of Nebraska City by a manure spreader, just let it go.
Don't let Big Corn do this to you.

In reply to this comment by Structure:
Is that some Red Drink she's having?

HFCS-55 and HFCS-42 are "made from corn" but so are some forms of plastic.

And "doesn't contain any artificial ingredients" is hilarious. It's made using a genetically modified enzyme and requires a huge amount of processing that refines it down to the point it no longer has anything to do with corn.
Due to the FDA having no definition of "natural", a product would have to be made of 100% ground ghosts to stop being natural. At least we can be assured it contains no supernatural ingredients.
I know, I hate their lies. "natural," thanks for the laugh!

>> ^rychan:
Don't post "seem to remember"; post clinical trials, or else it's just FUD.


Here ya go. It even cites sources.

I just watched a show a week or so ago, sorry but I don't remember what the show was, it was either Discover Channel, History Channel or PBS. It had segment on obesity, and they showed a study done with mice. The mice were given equal amounts of food, some were containing sugar, others HFCS. The mice that received food with HFCS were very fat while the mice that received sugar looked like normal mice.

I seem to remember reading somewhere that high fructose corn syrup (rather a chemical compound found in it) blocks a receptor that lets you know when you're full. Obviously consuming something that's high in caloric value and prevents you from feeling full is a bad combination. I think actual sugar has the same effect but nowhere near as pronounced since it doesn't contain as much fructose.

>> ^dystopianfuturetoday:
So.... a smaller government would be immune to corporate influence? Not buying it.
In reply to this comment by blankfist:
More of why a bigger Washington is bad: http://videosift.com/video/High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup-Commercial-FTW
Read the video summary.


good.. now you're thinking. Did someone say that small govt. wouldn't have influences from special interests? This is out of context. As Blankfist said in another post that regulation is not out of the equation for libertarianism.

Inherently so. Yes.

In reply to this comment by dystopianfuturetoday:
So.... a smaller government would be immune to corporate influence? Not buying it.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
More of why a bigger Washington is bad: http://videosift.com/video/High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup-Commercial-FTW

Read the video summary.

So.... a smaller government would be immune to corporate influence? Not buying it.

In reply to this comment by blankfist:
More of why a bigger Washington is bad: http://videosift.com/video/High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup-Commercial-FTW

Read the video summary.

More of why a bigger Washington is bad: http://videosift.com/video/High-Fructose-Corn-Syrup-Commercial-FTW

Read the video summary.

The legalization proposal has everything to do with preventing otherwise law abiding citizens from going to jail for an offense, that if done responsibly, has no impact on the people around them.

Heart disease kills over 450,000 people per year in the US alone of which alcohol and diet definately play a role. I would suggest it is more detrimental for me to consume the majority of food a grocery store due to high-fructose corn syrup rather than to smoke marijuana. There is an incredibly larger list of things currently legal to be more concerned with if you are arguing against it for health reasons.

It's very simple. The government should not be able criminalize an action you take upon your own body. If I want to grow in my home, for personal use inside my home I should have the right to not get arrested because of it.

I tend to drink a beer about an hour before bed, and 30 minutes after training. About every five days.

I hit the bad for about 90 minutes, sustained punching is difficult to keep rhythm especially with all this shit they sell in the stores that has fructose, extreme amounts of sugar, and but loads of sodium.

I know where you are coming from on the bike seats and ass problem. That's why I don't ride any more.