Based on?
Twisted Trump the Daughter Diddler is by far the worst "president" ever seen by any metric you want to choose. You can whine it might be worse with someone else, but no one with an IQ over 85 believes that....no matter how bad we think Clinton might have been.

Anyone who supports Pedo-Don is a willing facilitator of child rapists, and a willing dupe of a repeatedly convicted con man.

Trump's response ...'It's less dangerous than the flu, it will disappear by April, it's a hoax, no need for any action, don't wear an anti freedom mask because we're selling them to China and Russia, don't social distance, we have plenty of ventilators and ICU beds, just go back to work, it will never kill over 1000 Americans...10000 Americans....25000 Americans....50000 Americans...65000 Americans....80000 Americans....100000 Americans...125000 Americans, and now he says it won't kill over 160000 Americans, nothing to see here, perfect response, Clinton would have been worse.'

I defy you, Clinton COULD NOT be worse. She wouldn't have the house and Senate behind her every move, she wouldn't even start with her party in control of either. No matter what she tried to do, she would be blocked by the obstructionist party....so she couldn't have disbanded the international pandemic response teams, or the pandemic monitoring system named 'Predict', 2 moves that allowed a tiny outbreak in China to go unnoticed until it was a pandemic (and well after in the Whitehouse). She also wouldn't have ignored the well prepared pandemic response plan left by Obama and lied for months claiming it didn't exist.

*facepalm

Still think he's handling the coronavirus well ? Yeah swine flu was just like this right ? Bird flu? Yeah i guess obama fucked up the usa response just like this right?

Enjoy the leadership ! Look! I get it. If you don't fall in line then the kgb will probably throw you out a window or something. Find a way to reach out to someone. You don't have to be a Russian troll! We can rescue you !

Those would be the arguments that are different but not credible.

You know, arguments like Coronavirus is less dangerous than the flu, won't kill Americans, goes away by April on its own, like anti police assault protesters are terrorists, wearing a mask is like being suffocated by police, handing trillions to businesses and Trump friends will stop a depression, and let's not forget it's all Obama's fault....

Since most liberal positions are based on fact, and the opposing positions based on "Trump said so", it would be perfectly reasonable to mock them.

Democrats acted quickly, first to shelter in place, San Francisco, first state, California.....Trump pushed back and kept Republican run cities and states open while insisting there was no pandemic, Chinese hoax, liberal hoax, less deadly than the flu, gone by April, no ppe shortage, everyone can get a test. Cases in those states are mostly still on the upswing, with round two now a certainty.

Trump is still breathing. America is losing.

Not very many, and most of them are masked, unlike the anti-healthcare worker rallies by Trumpsters. >70% of Americans are intelligent enough to say it's not time to reopen, dozens of states are still on the upswing in cases, not flat or falling. Thanks to brain dead morons, we are nearly guaranteed a second outbreak this summer, Trumpronavirus is going to be with us in November, and most Americans are intelligent enough to understand why.

We should definitely listen to you because you've only been wrong about everything you've ever said about Covid 19.
It's not even as bad as the flu.
We won't ever have more than 15 cases, quickly dropping to zero.
There's no need for federal guidelines.
It will disappear by April.
We won't ever see 1000 deaths.
We definitely won't hit 10000 deaths.
We won't hit 20000 deaths.
40000.
60000.
80000.
100000.
Ok, it's well over 100000 dead Americans from horrendous planning, foot dragging, and obstinate denials, but Trump saved us from it hitting 2.5 million dead.
Only Chinese nationals carry it, so a travel ban on them solved everything.
It's an Obama era CDC created virus handed to China by Democrats to attack America.
*facepalm

Oh yeah? Tell me these known stories of Democrats cheating....I must have missed that, or is it data only found on OAN? Trump's multi million dollar nationwide election fraud investigation sure didn't find any, that's why you never heard it's conclusions.

We don't need Republican examples, we all remember last election and the candidates who had their campaign collect thousands of ballots from the elderly and change their votes, and the judge who voted as their dead spouse, and those woman who admitted voting multiple times because Trump said Democrats would, etc. All Republican cheating.

Idiot, vote by mail is not new. The only thing new is one party claiming it's improper or illegal....only when their political rivals do it, not their own party (Trump isn't threatening any red states who've gone to vote by mail...neither are Democrats, blowing your snide bullshit accusation out of the water.) Multiple states were 100% vote by mail when Trump was elected....are you saying that election was invalid and he's not the president?! Ok, I'll go along under those circumstances, but only if I get the last 3 1/2 years back first.

Trump hopes he can create that kind of confusion, then morons like you would accept his just declaring himself the winner and maybe having to postpone any further elections until we can figure out what's going on (indefinitely).

No one likes him OR the shit he's gotten done, shit like sparking a depression by not handling the outbreak in any useful way (banning some Chinese but not travel from China clearly didn't help) for almost two months while telling the nation there was nothing to worry about, go about your business, no need to prepare for anything, shit like handing trillions to political allies, withholding aid from Democratically led states, dragging his feet, publicly denying there's any problem while those around him illegally prepared by selling hotel stocks etc, blaming one race for creating the virus to deflect blame from his total failure to lead, etc.

If Hillary was in office, she wouldn't have disbanded the CDC international pandemic prevention and preparedness teams and plans, so wouldn't have needed Republicans to vote for her stimulus package.

If Dems/Hillary put forth a $2 trillion recovery bill, Republicans would have denied her a penny, not one Republican vote, called it a socialist cash grab, fake virus, and insisted the stimulus was tied to death squads who would come murder grandma, just like they did over healthcare. Republicans are incapable of compromise or honest debate, incapable of legislation that doesn't benefit Republicands at least 2-1 over Democrats, and incapable of putting the good of the nation before party, unlike Democrats. Republicans agreed to give billions to citizens, as long as they got trillions for businesses like Trump's failing clubs, and they complained about hundreds of millions to fight Covid.

Name these non related goodies, I bet you can't without asking OAN, who will give you an outright lie to repeat.

Everyone lost except maybe the makers of hydrocloroquin and Trump's failing golf clubs and a few billion dollar companies that took most of the small business stimulus money. All that loss was due to Trump's complete failure to take Covid seriously and his multi month delays when every second counted to save lives, jobs, and the economy, and his removal/firing of all oversight positions listed in the recovery bill he signed to facilitate disqualified billionaires and Trump family members getting the lions share.

Why? I doubt you want an honest answer, but here's one anyway.

Because the Fed refused to help states in crisis and, to free up desperately needed hospital beds for those in immediate dire need of hospitalization, some infected patients who were not showing symptoms or in need of hospitalization were discharged to facilities where they could receive routine care outside the hospital.
Had this not been done, there would have been a massive shortage in hospital beds, and a corresponding jump in deaths across the board. It would have been smart to quarantine them separately like California did in many cases, at least until we were sure they were no longer infectious, but since American testing still gives 50% false negatives, that's impossible.
Because most nursing homes utterly failed to follow guidelines for properly quarantining these patients, and because the virus targets exactly the same people who live in nursing homes, elderly with health issues, and because the outbreak began in nursing homes and spread among them while Trump insisted there was no danger, it's less dangerous than the flu, there's no need to change behavior and we won't ever have over 15 cases, they were going to be a major problem.

Those were their only options given the federal government's near total lack of action, keep them in the hospital and deny other patients or send them "home" to be quarantined. Neither was a good option, both were certain to end in increased deaths.


If, as I and others suggested in January, we used the military to build temporary hospitals for covid only like China had already done and instituted social distancing, we would have <10% of the cases we've had and might be safe to relax. Instead we did nothing for months based on Trump's ignorant stupidity and his narcissistic insistence that he knows more about everything than educated career professionals, this cost at least 90000 American lives and rising, along with the decimation of the economy, the explosion of the deficit and debt, and at best a recession if not depression that could have been avoided.

Trump probably told you that lie to make his abject failure that's going to kill at least 100000 Americans that need not have died look better, it's simply not what scientists/doctors said.

We were told there could eventually be 1-2 million deaths over the course of the pandemic if we did absolutely nothing. Trump wants you to make that the measure of success, one less death than doing nothing = great leadership. *facepalm

Trump said the 15 cases were all we would ever see, and it would just go away by April. Trust him. Ok...100 cases, it's not as bad as the flu, trust him. Ok, 1000 cases, it's fine, trust him. I mean 10000, 25000, 40000, 50000, 75000, 80000, 100000 and rising faster, but he's got this, it's under control, go back to work and shopping, trust him.

Epidemiologists said there would likely be 100000-250000 deaths (based on when we all started social distancing), 90% of which would have been avoided if Trump hadn't stalled so long on federal guidelines and actions and acted just two weeks earlier.

Sounds like an unmitigated failure requiring we lock him up for at least 25000 times longer than Hillary deserved.

What a fucking dumb analogy. WASTED BREATH


Can i get suicide if I bump into someone suicidal at the grocery store?

If I'm accidentally poisoned, should I worry about giving it to everyone at the office?

If my grandma breaks her hip and falls down the stairs, can I care for her and not put my child and wife at risk?

If I have the flu, and everyone around me has a current flu vaccination, should I treat it the same way I would COVID 19?

Perspective
https://youtu.be/d_jzykOXx9o

Years of non stop coverage, hearings, investigations, accusations, and frothing rage over 4 dead Americans in high risk jobs at the hands of Muslims, now the same moronic fear mongers think the current officially confirmed 80000 (likely really at least twice that, 640000 if counted the same way as flu deaths Trumpsters quote) Covid citizen deaths and tens of trillions in losses don't warrant contemporary coverage of real time infection rates and skyrocketing death rate stats are now media fear mongering, not life or death vital information they otherwise wouldn't have because the current administration, Chinalike, minimized, hid, downplayed, and ignored the clear and present danger, and continues to do so every time Corona Don opens his feculent maw on TV.

Perspective

Listened to the first 30 seconds of the above video Bob posted and thought an fyi regarding comparative death numbers of flu vs covid-19 was appropriate.

If you counted flu deaths the same way they are counting Covid-19 deaths the yearly flu death range would be 3,448 to 15,620, NOT the 50,000+ number everyone commonly sites. See linked Scientific America article on how these numbers are reached.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/observations/comparing-covid-19-deaths-to-flu-deaths-is-like-comparing-apples-to-oranges/

It certainly isn't....thanks to Trump and Trumpublican morons listening to disgraced former "scientists" turned activists.

The official narrative is "it's just a cold, not even as deadly as the regular flu, and it will disappear in April like magic so we don't need a vaccine, we're doing a great job and there's no supply shortages." And just today..."it's going to go away without a vaccine". Convincing ignoramuses of that is the only way to excuse the lack of focus on vaccines.

Speaking truth like Fauchi has at times gets you death threats, Trumpster paid sex abuse accusers, and derision from the president and his cult of personality.

Btw, your related debunked conspiracy theory video is dead...even YouTube won't spread this ridiculous nonsense....but by all means, believe her, don't get any vaccines and deny your children vaccines too. Just stay the fuck away from real Americans who believe verifiable science over confirmed liars, stick with the rest of the idiot anti vaxers.

Yep, obama was responsible for those responses, and trump is responsible for these.

Oh i remember SARS and Swine Flu - they were just like this right?

Oh yeah and when they happened, there was a giant block of ever faithful republicans supporting everything Obama was doing.


Hmmm wait...

And saying "don't be racist against chinese americans, you can still eat in chinatown" isn't stonewalling on a travel ban.

In the description it states that these are comparisons of pandemics. If my google-fu can be trusted, this is not true. The 2009 Swine flu is the only other outbreak on the list considered a pandemic.

Hey Bobby, the newest right wing douche way to trigger libtards is to ignore medical advice and hold pro Trump rallies, of course unmasked and ungloved, handshaking and hugging those other real Americans that turn up. Why not....are you snowflakes afraid of something far less deadly than the flu? Better hop to it, don't you think?

People blame Trump because he dismantled the programs that were a functional safeguard against EXACTLY this kind of outbreak, then denied Covid19 was anything out of the ordinary or at all dangerous, dragged his feet on stopping people from infected areas, and told people to ignore it as a hoax pandemic. His actions and words didn't create Covid19, but they let it become a pandemic that will kill >100000 Americans....maybe millions because his cultists are still convinced it's just a hoax meant to hurt him politically...he said so....and they continue to spread it nationwide.

https://videosift.com/video/China-Is-Building-A-Thousand-Bed-Hospital-In-6-Days

Trump continued to call it a Chinese/Democratic hoax and a minor flu for 2 months after this unambiguous, undeniable message from China that this was a horrific epidemic, which itself came well over a month after the whistleblower put the world on notice, a notice Trump and co 100% ignored for months despite the mounting evidence.