I don’t know about bird flu, but I had the flu last week and it was much worse than Covid for us.

Bird flu is transferred to cattle and pets….and has been found in milk and meat. It is beyond time to worry, especially since our pandemic response team has been fired….again…just like it was before Covid (by the same person who learned nothing).
The FDA and CDC are run by a man with severe brain damage both from decades of heroin abuse and brain worms eating a significant portion of his brain (although to eat the rotting road kill and get brain worms, he had to have serious brain damage already)…he doesn’t believe in vaccinations and seems to believe the best thing is full epidemic and let whoever dies die.
With Medicare and Medicaid in limbo at best, hospitals are already struggling to stay open, just wait until they are chocked full of patients but few if any staff. Its coming.

Buy PPE now while you can. N95 masks are already gone from shelves here, so is hand sanitizer. Things will get weird, and there will be no public health warnings telling you it is happening. They have been banned outright.

Holy crap! Just to drive home the unbelievable incompetence of this administration, our eggs are up to $15 a dozen and rising (3 times their pre-felon cost), in Mexico, a dozen eggs is well under $2!
Expect all food to be similarly overpriced. Just because the tariffs were dropped (except from China) doesn’t mean the trade war is over…Mexico, Canada, and China have all curtailed their orders from the US severely without tariffs. Canada pulled all US alcohol off the shelves, and aren’t keen on putting it back.
Also, thousands were murdered because he suspended funding for experimental medical trials, meaning thousands are in the middle of treatments for deadly diseases which drives medical advancements, many with devices implanted, all of which were just abandoned to die.
And, eggs are so expensive that they are now being hijacked by the truckload, and RFK jr 1) skipped the transition meeting so has no clue what’s happening and 2) doesn’t believe in pandemics so has no plan to address bird flu or any other emerging disease or food shortage.
And we now know why Elon shut down USAID…not because they were wasteful or leftists, Ivanka used millions in USAID herself, they were investigating his Starlink contracts in Ukraine (like overcharging and how he shut them down at critical times to help Russia in the war), so had to close.
Also, he and his subordinate the felon rehired the active proud racist Nazi that quit when he was outed, because they both are Nazis themselves. Time for instigating that Indian hate he advocates against race traitor Vance and his brown family.

Inflation already exploding maybe double digits already. Suddenly maga says “inflation is patriotic”

Gas prices are spiking. Grocery prices spiking double digits, eggs $12! Stock market crashing. China’s international trade pact has gained a dozen (40) nations with all central and South America in talks while they consider trade war with America while switching from using the dollar to using the yuan.

Unemployment exploding unbelievably. Crops rotting in fields because there’s no one to harvest them. Hiring frozen.

Ukraine war still in full effect, with 6 more on the horizon thanks to threats.

We quit the WHO and closed our pandemic response team (again) and forced all public health agencies to stop communicating with the public right as bird flu is emerging as a pandemic.

Child pornographers, the biggest/most prolific drug dealer ever in America who assassinated his rivals, and over 1500 more violent cop killing thugs released from prison to reek havoc across America, many already rearrested for violent armed crimes, one got in a shootout with police and died.

Just 8 days in, and the nation is completely crumbling, the rule of law gone, the economy in freefall, a pandemic starting. The president is on vacation.

If you voted for this and you love America, you should eat your gun.

By decree, he has also claimed to have ended FEMA, saying states should take care of themselves, not each other. The south is doomed….California will just withhold federal taxes and pay for itself, and save tens of billions of dollars per year that way, Louisiana alone will be $10 billion per year in the hole or more. All southern states are “takers” from the fed… Enjoy.

Eggs are $9 already and skyrocketing and he completely abandoned the promise to lower grocery prices, now says it’s impossible.

When told his policies are already crashing the economy on live TV by Hannity he answered “I don’t care”.

We will be in a depression this summer, and a real military invasion by Xmas (unless he hands Alaska to Russia and Hawaii to China).

His first plan to stop the Ukraine war….tell Putin he is planning tariffs and sanctions on anything Russia sells the U.S. (clearly not knowing they’ve been in effect for years already, and that Russia hasn’t sold anything to the US in years).

Pardoned more terrorists including those who pleaded guilty to treason/sedition and violence against police.
Some were re-arrested for more violent felonies they committed under a day after release. He invited these convicted anti American criminal thugs to the Whitehouse.
This is exactly what he did in 2020 in Afghanistan before handing the country to the criminal terrorist Taliban (yes, he even invited Taliban leaders to Camp David and the Whitehouse)…a group he seems to look up to. Thank goodness some judges refuse to dismiss with prejudice so they can be retried if law and order ever return to America….unlikely.

Once again, he already dismantled our pandemic response team right as bird flu is emerging in America, and decreed our health agencies cannot make any statements or recommendations but must keep silent and useless. Buy PPE!

His plans to deport every undocumented alien are estimated to cost multiple trillions per year directly just to try and cost the economy up to another $10 trillion per year in lost production…absolutely devastating and turning us into a third world nation overnight.

Is there peace in Ukraine yet? His new stated plan is to ask President Xi of China who is supplying Russia with military equipment and ammo to solve it for him. Russia is publicly mocking him and Smelania (by broadcasting her soft core porn constantly), laughing at his “threats” and giddy at their luck that Biden is gone and their cucked boy is back.

Shocker, these decrees are all directly from project 2025, written by the project 2025 committees, and many Trump doesn’t know what he’s signing since he wasn’t involved in drafting the orders….exactly as we knew would happen.

UPDATE: Decree #1, ending birthright citizenship, shut down by a Republican judge with a hilarious rebuke.

Also fun, 75% of farm workers didn’t show up to work this week. Harvests are essentially cancelled. Prepare for double digit inflation at the grocery store in short order. $9 eggs is just a start.

was gonna say, "ew" 'cause cats roll in dirt, deal in vermin and often bring down government drones (birds aren't real).

reasons for the adverse are; licking a - cat - one might expose themselves to Ted Nugent Syndrome (aka Cat Scratch Fever), ring worm, T. gondii, Salmonella or Campylobacter.

the potential symptoms run along the spectrum of flu-like symptoms, serve diarrhea, stomach cramps, fungus among us, and associated risk with a number of neurological disorders – particularly schizophrenia and bipolar disorder. [having your cat drag in one of those black-op drones is way uncool too]

'tho obvious - can't stop - EWWW!

I did. And I'm happy with the way things are going generally. At least, regarding Joe Biden.


Big picture: there's a lot of terrible things happening in the world. My own half-assed-survey based on personal experience: most people don't follow passing laws and what the executive branch really does with any kind of seriousness. They may self-proclaim they "like reading the news" But most people who say things like that are content with a surface understanding of what's happening.

I mean, you know inflation is up AROUND THE ENTIRE PLANET right? https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2022/06/15/in-the-u-s-and-around-the-world-inflation-is-high-and-getting-higher/


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Besides Israel, other countries with very large increases in inflation between 2020 and 2022 include Italy, which saw a nearly twentyfold increase in the first quarter of 2022 compared with two years earlier (from 0.29% to 5.67%); Switzerland, which went from ‑0.13% in the first quarter of 2020 to 2.06% in the same period of this year; and Greece, a country that knows something about economic turbulence. Following the Greek economy’s near-meltdown in the mid-2010s, the country experienced several years of low inflation – including more than one bout of deflation, the last starting during the first spring and summer of the pandemic. Since then, however, prices have rocketed upward: The annual inflation rate in Greece reached 7.44% in this year’s first quarter – nearly 21 times what it was two years earlier (0.36%).

Annual U.S. inflation in the first quarter of this year averaged just below 8.0% – the 13th-highest rate among the 44 countries examined. The first-quarter inflation rate in the U.S. was almost four times its level in 2020’s first quarter.

Regardless of the absolute level of inflation in each country, most show variations on the same basic pattern: relatively low levels before the COVID-19 pandemic struck in the first quarter of 2020; flat or falling rates for the rest of that year and into 2021, as many governments sharply curtailed most economic activity; and rising rates starting in mid- to late 2021, as the world struggled to get back to something approaching normal.

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The pattern of rising and falling inflation happened because that flu that "will just go away like a miracle" ended up affecting the whole world's economy in a somewhat predictable pattern when it comes to inflation. Maybe the people who only casually glance at the news when they are flipping channels don't know better, but come on - you know that inflation rates in the United States are not specifically Joe Biden's fault right?


You still think they are? OKAY - HOW? Exactly. Point to legislation passed or not passed and the timeline of inflation in the United States.

Something like "Here you can see inflation beginning to spike, and it's the result of XXXXXXXXX that Joe Biden did, here's exactly how what he did affects inflation in this way."


Who wants to bet $20 that I'll get some response like that? What should the odds be set at if I am 100% certain all I'll get is just some snarky bullshit from an old bullfrog.

The meme near the end was insightful.

First thought hearing details about the virus was it wouldn't affect enough (the right sector of) people to be seen as a threat. If it had been like the Spanish Flu or affected primarily little ones - then it would be an emergency.

Damn shame one knows the score before it's put up on the board.

Downvote at dishonest “bidenflation”. This is Trumpflation if we must be infants.

Economists will tell you how inflation happens. Creating 1/3 of every dollar in existence to pay for things we can’t afford (2020) is the simplest way. Lowering GDP is also a factor (-2.2% 2020)
At least under Biden, wages are increasing too. Didn’t happen under the last president, not so much. Inflation from a glut of new money (but no added value) takes time. It will continue no matter what steps are taken until the spending we did on fake “credit” gets paid.

Another debt Trump left, not Biden policies driving inflation.
I defy you, @bobknight33, name 3 Biden policies that are driving inflation. Name one. I’ve named the Trump policy economists say caused it….printing new money to pay for programs without funding. Look it up.

As for meat prices, remember that little thing called Covid? Remember how the last administration insisted Covid was a mild flu, and meat processing plants closed because of massive outbreaks? That, and subsequent labor shortages have increased prices, not Biden adding taxes.
Comparing mid pandemic unnaturally low (shutdown means cheap fuel, even free oil) fuel prices to artificially inflated (refineries refused calls to ramp production back up) prices of today is a red herring, a paper tiger. Two factors there caused the increase, neither caused by Biden.

Total false narrative, or in bob speak, FAKENEWS!

The issue is the wrong guy, a dishonest blowhard trying to cover his own failures, claimed this early on with absolutely zero evidence. It was a clear dodge, his normal MO. Refusing any responsibility for ending the international pandemic response team that would have been able to actually say when and where the outbreak started, and likely be able to keep it relegated to one small area in China. By blaming it on a Chinese lab, actually saying it was intentional, he deflects from his abject failure to protect America from a clear, obvious, incontrovertibly deadly threat on the horizon….or any time after it’s discovery.
Were the Chinese studying Covid, yes, so were we. That’s not an indication of where it came from. There’s no evidence it came from any lab, only supposition at best.

Edit:Even if the guess that it came from a Chinese lab is correct, it doesn’t excuse one second of Trump’s (lack of) response and outright denials for months-years. The origin has nothing to do with the danger level, in fact, if it WERE enhanced/created in a lab as he claimed, that’s more reason to consider it MORE dangerous, not reason to claim it’s just a cold or mild flu and will disappear like magic in a few weeks. Granted, it was fun to see him (only after his trade deal fell apart) blame this deadly virus on the Chinese as an unforgivable deliberate act of germ warfare and accuse them of minimizing the danger and hiding the size and severity of the outbreak and in the same breath claim it’s nothing to worry about, not dangerous, probably not deadly, not worth any action to protect against, and just a minimal annoyance soon to disappear….but also disappointing to see how easily so many Americans glossed over the two faced hypocritical responsibility shirking stance he took.

This guy claims most, nearly all viruses can’t both infect people and be transmitted….what utter nonsense. If that were true, there would have never been epidemics, pandemics, not even outbreaks. Credibility destroyed.

I guess he didn’t hear about swine flu, or bird flu, or flu, or colds, or any transmittable virus. 🤦‍♂️
I guess they haven’t heard new mutations are far less deadly (but more transmittable) than earlier versions, so they are getting less dangerous, contrary to his claim.

Not transmitting well outdoors means it’s not natural?! Bullshit, animals nest together. Many natural viruses require close contact to transmit.

DNA testing proved early on that this is not a man made virus. Is it possible a Chinese lab made a natural virus more dangerous, then a lab mistake released it? Yes, but there’s no evidence that’s the case, even these people who’s livelihood relies on people accepting “the lab hypothesis” (hypothesis=guess) admit it’s all conjecture, there’s no evidence, certainly no proof. It’s not the lab theory because it’s unproven.

Duh.

BTW, this couple are married, anti vaxers, Ivermectin proponents, and were thrown out of Evergreen College, and are now both now discredited and disgraced. Their main source of income is now their anti vax, pro Ivermectin, Covid isn’t dangerous podcasts loved by morons like Joe Rogan, and a source of much of his misinformation that’s getting him removed from his platform.
“Bret Weinstein is one of the foremost purveyors of COVID-19 disinformation out there,” says Dr. David Gorski, a surgical oncologist and professor at Wayne State University who also debunks quack remedies as managing editor at a website called Science-Based Medicine. “Weinstein can be ‘credited’ with playing a large role in popularizing the belief that ivermectin is a miracle cure or preventative for COVID-19, that the vaccines are dangerous, and that the disease itself is not. Why are Rogan and Maher attracted to his messages? Contrarians and conspiracy theorists tend to be attracted to each other.”
https://whyevolutionistrue.com/2021/09/16/bret-weinstein-and-heather-heying-go-unvaccinated-take-ivermectin/

Downvote discredited shills who profit from misinformation. No surprise at all, considering who posted this dishonest propaganda from discredited propagandists.

Covid.
Trump—“it’s just like the flu and will go away before summer”.
This is you[r] boy? This is you[r] pick. 🤦‍♂️

More—We should have had vaccine mandates from day one with no exemptions and heavy fines for refusal, right.
What’s the right wing plan? Oh that’s right, gain natural herd immunity by allowing everyone to get Covid…..except it turns out that natural immunity is short lived and not cross variant effective, and lets millions die in the effort.…so it’s no plan.
Right wing Covid deniers and anti vaxers, like you were for some time, are responsible for the current outbreak. If not for them, Covid would finally actually just be a bad flu for the vaccinated nation, like Trump insisted it was at the onset.

FL & TX account for 40% of all the new hospitalizations. Yet, they are against mask mandates. Against their fellow lawmakers, citizens, and school administrators who KNOW masks are necessary. FOR THE GOP it is a political weapon.

What is poignant is all the teachers that have and will die. IF given a thought for a moment, the flu season was unusually low last season. In our area, it was almost non-existent. We know masks check the spread of the COVID virus but now there is a possibility it could cut the flu infection risks, too!

Now isn't it worth it? Because COVID attacks the lungs and has already spun off a lambda variant. Why double up the chance parents, teachers, and their children could get at a double shot of respiratory illnesses?!

THINK OF IT: all those immune-compromised folks who got their shots. If it was so dangerous, then where was the storm for Gramma? If it doesn't work- who is in the hospitals? If it's a 'freedom' issue then what freedom will be there for those infected? Didn't we just come from a shutdown? Why is this EVEN A DEBATE?!!! Why is doing so OBVIOUSLY right so anti-right?

Don't let what you don't know to keep you from doing what you do know is the right way to go.

After all, folks like myself have to live w/the risk of new GOP members living to vote, to make more awful laws, and how many of them will mirror what we have now? The horror...the horror...

Do you have any idea at all how high a 2% death rate is?

https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
Crunch some of those numbers.

I'll do 2018 for you
61,000(deaths) ÷ 45,000,000,000(symptomatic cases)

0.0000013556
Move that decimle twice
0.00013556% chance of dying from the flu that year.

Yeah. 2% is a fucking high death rate. Dumbass.

2012-13
43,000÷34,000,000,000
0.0000012647
Or 0.00012647%
Yeah...2% is REALLY FUCKING HIGH

And consider that thanks in large part to your former social media influencer, now that 2% is going to be a seasonal thing. You dumbasses are spreading lies and an actual virus and just pray it doesn't evolve further. Every new host is another chance at an epsilon variant that'll be the new strain and could further evade the vaccine.

Here's a measles virus
https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/stltoday.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/c/2c/c2c40270-a385-51ca-9e81-e4e7590c0c29/5ab25d6beef47.im
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Here's a covid 19 virus
https://static.wixstatic.com/media/b91cef_2cd215ed15f544c4ae7a3a287e8baf1c~mv2.png/v1/fit/w_740%2Ch_296%2Cal_c/file.png

Here's a common flu virus
https://hms.harvard.edu/sites/default/files/assets/News/2015/images/Sep/flu%20micrograph.jpg

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a WHOLE LOT< < < < < < < < < < < < < of experience fighting viruses that are corona types. We KNOW how to make good vaccines for coronaviruses.
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And you're just wrong about being forced to be vaccinated

"It is within the police power of a State to enact a compulsory vaccination law"

AND furthermore
https://casetext.com/case/matter-of-viemeister-v-white
"independently of any specific menace of disease, a regulation excluding unvaccinated children from the public schools is reasonable, valid and constitutional."
"the case also highlighted that claims of vaccines harms, when the majority of scientists disagree, would not be enough to lead the court to overrule the legislature. "

And i'm pretty sure most scientists agree, but even if they didn't, no, it's not just your choice. The fact is, your health affects the people around you. It's not just you looking out or not looking out for your own best interests.


ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Even if I think you're an asshole and want you to stop spreading your non-fact-based-rhetoric around, if there's one less person who can get sick and spread covid, we're all better off. Don't mistake me. I'd be happier if you shut the fuck up a lot more. But I don't want you to die. It's like talking to my trump 2024 father over here. Get vaccinated already dumbass.


p.s.
Why aren't you concerned about fiscal matters here? It costs the gov more to let someone become hospitalized than a it costs to vaccinate them. Aren't you worried about all that wasted spending?

600000 dead thanks to pretending it’s a mild flu and ignoring it for months = “fake COVID fear”
4 dead in a hostile country = “spend as long as it takes to force Clinton to pay”

No punishment, just exclusion from society and commerce in self defense. When you morons start spreading the next variant that mutated in one of your obese bodies and we go back to full quarantine, I’ll be totally open to either get the shot or get shot….you’ll be murdering people in the name of ignorant obstinance.
What happened to “grandma is fine dying if you can go back to work”…now turned into “I’m not getting a shot so we can go back to work because no one pwomised me a wowweepop and I’m afwaid of getting owchied.”

Go door to door, any house with an unvaccinated occupant should get sealed and the names published, and breaking quarantine should be the death penalty anyone can inflict just like you idiots said the elderly would accept.
Definitely anyone unvaccinated should pay every dime of treatment at this point, right? You claim to be about personal responsibility, so lobby your representatives to give insurance companies and the fed the right to not pay for COVID treatment for unvaccinated people. 90% of you morons would try to get one today if that was the case.

Public health is not a personal choice as long as you live in a society. Leave society, then you can live in personal freedom on quarantine island.