Genius narrator thinks a dam will hold back the ocean from SF Bay. Completely forgetting the river will fill it up to the same level behind the dam anyway. You are not going to pump all that river flow UP into the ocean. All it could help with is protection against storm surge.

The pictures this video shows does not represent a "38 cm rise by 2100" mentioned in the beginning. It would have been nice to show the actual level of rise depicted in the images and projected year that would occur.

Actually they were on the top levels of the parking garage. Specificly the round ramp. You can see the garage in street view.

In the video the photographer runs to the other side of the garage to show water flowing up to the Green building.

This might work on air, because you can compress air, but I'm pretty certain it won't work on water.

Water is not a marble. It's not even millions of marbles, though that might better illustrate how it would move through the 'valve'. In reality the water is going up all those side channels AND the central 'smooth' channel all at once. The back eddies from the side channels will serve to help guide the water flowing up the main tube and if you can get ANY suction out of that sucker at all I'd be amazed.

Like I say, air is more complex. It might work there, but the efficiency would be so low I can't ever see this replacing a standard pump.

So just to throw it straight out there; I'm a massive biker (though mostly solo so I can't really relate to the gang mindset here). You have no idea what this whole debacle does to my priorities!

So on the one hand provoking the man in the big metal cage (no matter how good the perceived reason) is basically never a good idea if your on a bike. And moreover beating someone to within an inch of his life and cutting him up is very very rarely a good or condonable solution to anything, even if he did just run over a couple of your buddies....

On the other hand......well (and this might only really find any sympathy from fellow motor-bicycleists)..........I can fill in some of the gaps that might explain why one biker felt the need to brake hard in front of him etc. from my own experiences.

Some (very few) drivers go out of their way to fuck with you sometimes over little shit, they get a big head tucked away safely inside their big metal cages and they take it upon themselves to cause you grief in some way or another.
On a regular basis for instance I have car drivers deliverately pull their cars out to try and stop me filtering (lane splitting) despite the fact that A. its totally legal and featured on my fucking licence test! and B. It actually speeds their miserable existence in the traffic flow up as we don't have to take up a car's space (and were fucking gone before most cars are even in gear when the lights change anyway)!

Fortunately I have the perfect solution to this problem, I ride a cheapish looking bike and don't show any signs of stopping for them as they veer over deliberately into my path! You'd be amazed how often they just back off :-D (if not I'm only ever doing 5-10mph so stopping is always an option for that odd psycho)

Not saying I remotely condone the bikers responses, but I do understand how this thing probably escalated. I suspect the bikers had a legit frustration but clearly they dealt with it very poorly. The biker side of the story seems to be that this guy had been deliberately blocking lanes and exchanging insults for a while leading up to when the braking biker escalated things,a situation I've witnessed myself before. Normally prudence makes you leave it alone and back off/accelerate away (or if they are being an extra special twatbag knock off a mirror and accelerate into the distance :-D (never actually done that, but it's seriously crossed my mind a couple of times, Kevlar knuckles are the shit!)). In this case the extra courage that only a 1000 or so fellow kinsmen stood at your side can bring had the usual effect..........Mobs will be the death of us all.

@newtboy is right though, bikers totally killed their own case reacting so aggressively. If they'd followed at a reasonable distance and waited for police to show up things would probably have gone completely the other way legally. Sure the dude that brakes in front of him might get charged but it'd be nothing on attempted vehicular murder/manslaughter running over a handful of bikers. Chasing down and then beating a man half to death in front of his family unfortunately rather overshadows your defence.


Sadly the only sensible conclusion I seem to be able to find is this was ultimately douche nozzles with no self control baiting other douche nozzles with no self control. But I do get it. I also totally get the drivers response once it escalated, I'd have shit bricks and maybe made a run for it through them by that stage too!

I really really really wish I could hear what was actually said between them oh well, back to the fence I go!


EDIT: I just wanted to come back and make it absolutely clear that I also acknowledge that bikes in groups (especially sports bikes and supermoto's as featured here) are just as capable of acting like power drunk fucknuts too. It's entirely possible the bikers started it a way's back and the driver was essentially an innocent man driven to extreme lengths by fear (though I'm still going with straight up hot douche on douche action for now)

one way or another it will work out. either through revolt or cooler heads will eventually prevail and taxes will be raised or loopholes will be eliminated.

This kind of wealth concentration is simply not sustainable over the long haul. There is always going to be poor people, there will always be rich people, but if you don't give poor people enough money to buy stuff, then guess what. your economy is broken.

money has to flow up AND down for an economy to work and right now it's only flowing one way. One way or another, that will be corrected. The only question is: How long will it take and how bloody will the process be.

>> ^oritteropo:

Interesting. My first c64 wasn't a rev 1 ROM, so it didn't have this bug (did any PAL c64's?).
A bit of googling suggests that if you has pressed play on your datasette, and then stopped it, you could have recovered! If only we'd had the internet in 1982!!!
http://www.c64trivia.com/TRIVIA3A.DAT.html
>> ^deathcow:
There was a bug in the C64 where if you typed and filled the very bottom line of the screen with text and then kept typing which overflowed to the next line, (which would make the screen text all flow up one line to make room) and THEN you backspaced back onto the last line, it would lock the machine up cold. I lost code to this bug enough times that it eventually became set in the brain at a very low level to avoid this.
To THIS day when working in the bottom line of a text editor, notepad, etc whatever, if I am typing and flowing into new lines in the bottom, my brain raises red flags if I am backspacing.



That was cool (bottom trivia question) !!!!

Interesting. My first c64 wasn't a rev 1 ROM, so it didn't have this bug (did any PAL c64's?).

A bit of googling suggests that if you has pressed play on your datasette, and then stopped it, you could have recovered! If only we'd had the internet in 1982!!!

http://www.c64trivia.com/TRIVIA3A.DAT.html
>> ^deathcow:

There was a bug in the C64 where if you typed and filled the very bottom line of the screen with text and then kept typing which overflowed to the next line, (which would make the screen text all flow up one line to make room) and THEN you backspaced back onto the last line, it would lock the machine up cold. I lost code to this bug enough times that it eventually became set in the brain at a very low level to avoid this.
To THIS day when working in the bottom line of a text editor, notepad, etc whatever, if I am typing and flowing into new lines in the bottom, my brain raises red flags if I am backspacing.

There was a bug in the C64 where if you typed and filled the very bottom line of the screen with text and then kept typing which overflowed to the next line, (which would make the screen text all flow up one line to make room) and THEN you backspaced back onto the last line, it would lock the machine up cold. I lost code to this bug enough times that it eventually became set in the brain at a very low level to avoid this.

To THIS day when working in the bottom line of a text editor, notepad, etc whatever, if I am typing and flowing into new lines in the bottom, my brain raises red flags if I am backspacing.

Ive always heard the saying was Money flows up, Shit trickles down... must have been the Sopranos marathon.

Hey Drach, sorry if I offended with the 'bollocks' comment, (I was chillin with Mary J last night) and like you said we'll find out in a couple of days. I think you may have missed my point though.

Either:

.A. Channels and water are real, some columns MAY be added/removed in post-production. (My explanation.)

OR

.B. He created whole 'machine' entirely in a 3D program. (Your explanation, I think?) He would have had set up the same 3-point lighting in the program for the shadows to match. In addition he also had to have either an animated alpha map of himself, or a 3D model (animated to match his movement) to create the shadow that travels across the structure. He also did a pretty good job with the dynamic animation of the fluid flowing up the channel. There would also be several smaller additional scripts for the water as it falls, and splashes off the wheel.

So to conclude, as I said before, it COULD be entirely 'CGI',(not my personal belief, but I'll certainly accept that) but to describe the process as 'a simple trick' does not give the creator the credit he deserves.

.A. = Several hours of carpentry + 2-3 hours on the computer + Setup and planning time.

.B. = At least a week in 3D program (That's being conservative, that alpha mapped shadow animation would be a bitch, no?) + Compositing + Setup and planning.

HOW IS .B. 'A SIMPLE TRICK'. If you can elaborate on this for me, I'd really like to learn the process you would use. Again no offense meant. I have only worked in the field for 10 years and I really only know Maya expertly, so I might learn a thing or two off you if you could explain how you would do it. Cheers J.

Money flows up, shit trickles down. Now we get to observe the effect of exponential population growth on that phenomenon. Robotic hearts for all CEO's, may greed never die!

>> ^gorillaman:
Democracy exists for one reason only, which is to legitimise crime. Want your neighbour's wealth? You can't just steal it, that would be wrong. Get your government to do it for you, after they've taken their cut. Suddenly it's fair. Want to tell him how to live his life? Want to throw him in prison?


You talk about crime and wealth, terms which only have meaning in the presence of government, and then complain that governments can be used, or misused, to take wealth away, or commit non-criminal crimes, which is true of any system of government. But since you seem to care about laws/property, you need a system of government which is capable of being fair, please provide a historical example of a non-democracy that has managed this feat, and then we can compare and contrast with the supposedly terrible system you are complaining about.

Government is always a balancing act, but "property above all else", which seems to be your position, is a massive wealth redistribution policy, the money just happens to flow up. If we want a neutral market, we should structure it something like the 1950s US, with 90%+ upper end tax brackets, sizable government pensions, massive government investment on infrastructure, and the reasonable ability of just about anybody to acquire and hold a reasonable amount of wealth, without redistributing it up or down, anything else is theft by your definition.

While the US is not functioning very well at the moment, it is still a constitutional democracy, we have, even recently in practice, a judicial system that puts a check on both the legislator and the electorate. People are not thrown is jail by popular vote, thought the laws are not applied fairly, to suggest that we have referenda on jailing people we don't like is pure fantasy.

Your basic argument, that unrestrained democracy is bad, is true, it just does not happen to be practiced anywhere, and so is completely irrelevant. If you have a non-fantasy-based alternative to constitutional democracy, please let us all know.

What do these common road contaminants/applicants do to it?

Oil, salt, rubber, tar (because we're not going to be able to do all roads at once obviously), rocks, dirt, rust flakes, hydraulic, transmission, anti-freeze, various other car fluids, gasoline spills, diesel spills.

If an accident occurs how easily is the glass scratched, how much damage can it take before it needs a full replacement.

When replacing/repairing them, how long does it take? Is it cheaper to repair/replace them than it would be to maintain asphalt. How long do they last? Asphalt can go 10-15 years on parking lots if maintained and not overly abused via spills. Roads vary due to traffic and how smooth they are, plows eat them alive when they begin to hump/buckle or become misshapen in some way.

If one breaks or is damaged....does it affect the power generation? How much so? Will it take out city blocks of power like a power line going down?

What if a water main bursts under it or near it....will it support the weight if the foundation is washed away? Will it heave up in a big panel making the surface uneven? Will it breaks the other panels when it does this? Or cause some other damage due to the feed being broken?

How does it handle snow, ice, dust, fog, mist. Extreme temperatures. Can they be salted and plowed or do they self-clear snow somehow?

Most cracking and uneven-ness in road surfaces comes from the foundation below it, some people call them structural cracks..like the foundation of your house might get because of settling. It's also a telltale sign of problems below the surface of the road, masking that problem may not be a desirable quality even though it makes it a more convenient road surface in the meantime. It's like pothole versus sinkhole problems....I'd rather blow out a tire than have my car swallowed by the road.

If they keep this primarily to freeways they can avoid most issues with water mains, gas lines, sewer, etc. But they'll still have storm drains and the underground pipes associated with them, not as much of a big deal if they leak...but if they were to be plugged and a big rain came it can cause havoc with roadways above and below the surface...they don't plan for the water to start flowing up from beneath the roadway.

Finish grade asphalt and concrete work is pretty fast moving stuff when everything else is ready. It's all the sub grade work that takes months and even years.

Be great if it worked, but maybe they should start with sidewalks or bike paths...military base applications...they see some heavy equipment rolling through there, if it lasts through those....

What if you left a pipe running through the plug so that the oil could flow up the pipe allowing you to ram it in and get a good seal. Then have a valve on the end that could be shut off once the plug is in place and sealed?

Fascinating.

* Why are so many done side on? Seems to be fraught with great danger for the ship, the first one has a huge amount of water flow up onto its deck. The ones done front on seem much smoother
* The one on the tubes may look dangerous, but it worked very smoothly indeed compared to some of the others.
* The low quality of the front first one making the large wave... me thinks those people laugh just a little too damn much. And where the hell are the engineers etc. telling people NOT to stand there? (and the others with the same issue). Someone is going to get swept off and killed during one of those.
* How incredibly, incredibly heartbreaking must the last one have been. ALL that work by SO many people... gone, just like that.

Terrible.

But great video. Ships of that size fascinate me. I worked on the ANZAC frigates for a while as a student engineer, and I was in hog heaven being around all those MASSIVE bits of steel, and being able to climb around inside half finished ships. Amazing engineering.