they're not hippies.

they're burners.

>> ^volumptuous:

I forgot what the exact number is, but I thin it was 25,000 gallons of fuel used for this.
Funny when "hippies" do their best to trash the environment. This stuff makes me hate hippies all the more.

Actually they do but didn't help here :-( : "Although McGeehan ejected and cleared the aircraft before the crash he was killed in the ensuing fireball. Additionally, Huston initiated his ejection sequence but did not clear the aircraft before impact. No one on the ground was injured.[6]">> ^charliem:

Im far too lazy to check wiki to see if B52's have ejection facilities for everyone on board.

Haha, I remember when I was in second grade I had a boombox and probably a Vanilla Ice or Michael Jackson tape on hand. But, I wanted an extension cord so I could have the boombox on the otherside of the room, so I grabbed some wire stuck in one end of the power cord for the boombox and then plugged the cord in the wall. Fireballs. Fucking FIREBALLS. It was awesome. I'll never do it again.


>> ^ghark:

I remember standing in front of an electrical outlet when I was about 3-4 with a fork, thinking man, I'm so tempted to see what would happen if I poke this fork into these little holes.
Ahh, the good old days, before it became politically correct to safe'ify one's house for the chillun's.

>> ^MarineGunrock:

@<a rel="nofollow" href="http://videosift.com/member/BoneyD" title="member since July 7th, 2006" class="profilelink">BoneyD, that's a freeze-frame? Is that not just the flash? There are not giant fireballs at all in that video.


Yes, sorry, I'm being an idiot But you just know that'd be all the excuse Bay would need to use fire.

@BoneyD, that's a freeze-frame? Is that not just the flash? There are not giant fireballs at all in that video.

I agree with everything. Also, I need to point out that 99%of movie explosions are bullshit. Explosions do not have gigantic fireballs. I was fucking SHOCKED to find out Bad Boys 2 was a Bay film, specifically because the explosions (at the end, in Cuba) were so realistic. No giant flames. Just an explosive force demolishing shit. I'm mainly talking about the part where Will Smith shoots the guard post with the AT-4 rocket launcher. >> ^Jinx:

Actuaaallllly I really liked the way Firefly was shot. And that part of the movie where they rush the blockade with all those Reaver ships on their tale was class.
DON'T SUGGEST JOSS HAS ANY FLAWS AGAIN.
ps. Does anybody else find movie explosions terribly underwhelming? Oh, they set fire to some gasoline again. yawn. How about some actual shockwaves Hollywood, how about making explosions that look like they take people lives, not just eyebrows. Thx.

>> ^oohlalasassoon:

A proper sorcerer would have cast fireball on those guys.


You need at least one Mountain to cast Fireball and I'm guessing they are hard to come by in the jungle.

>> ^oohlalasassoon:

A proper sorcerer would have cast fireball on those guys.


Obviously he forgot to bring mana potions.

>> ^oohlalasassoon:

A proper sorcerer would have cast fireball on those guys.


"Some call me.... Tim?"

A proper sorcerer would have cast fireball on those guys.

@enoch

I think what you are doing with the argument about consciousness is rather confusing to me. It seems to me that you are applying our own consciousness to the universe as a whole, in the same way I look at my dog as a human ie: applying human reasoning to an animal that I really know isnt capable of it. (such as predicting or planning future events, like "My dog feels a sense of abandonment when I'm on vacation" etc.) My dog, and even more probable, the universe, doesnt give a shit that I'm in the next room or 4000 miles away, it doesnt know that I'm in a different country and it has no idea how long I might be gone. But its in our human nature to treat the things around us, and even the environment itself, as if it was socially connected with us, the way a fellow human might be.

Now, dogs may be more perseptive than one would think, and us dog-owners may be more right about our relationship with these animals than our research has been able to establish at this point, and there is even some mounting evidence that they understand us better than we could imagine. But again, we are talking about complex animals with very sophisticated brains that have undergone domesticating selection for thousands of generations. In other words, the human and conscious qualities that I unwittingly apply to dogs may not be entirely fictional.

But to apply this (consciousness,awareness,prediction or social behaviour of some kind)to the universe itself, is another matter entirely. Unlike the case with dogs, for example, there really is no evidence for this, there is no known mechanism, or even a credible potential mechanism, to give the universe an intelligence capable of conscious thought. In fact, all the evidence and knowledge we DO have, suggests that the universe is overwhelmingly indifferent, unintelligent, unconscious, and contains nothing but physical energy condensed into matter.

If the universe was conscious in some way, why would it, for instance spend 4 billion years evolving life, and eventually creating conscious creatures like ourselves around a burning fireball thats destined to explode and destroy it all within a few additional billion years, rendering the entire excercise completely pointless in the grand scheme of things. The universe will go on existing for at least a hundred billion years after that, and there will be no, absolutely NO sign that life ever existed in this part of that insignificant little galaxy (one out of a hundred billion) In fact that galaxy itself would be nothing but a supermassive black hole with fading stars(literally) around it. All our books and all our efforts, all our suffering and all our triumphs will be gone. forever.


Allright too gloomy, I know, but its the truth. we live here.. now, and we should appreciate our tiny visit to the spotlight. We are the universe understanding parts of itself, in a few short decade I will be no more, and in a few million years, mankind will be no more. We are conscious, now, and we are as far as we can tell, the only things that are.

We are the universe's consciousness.
As far as we can tell.
I say enjoy it while it lasts.

I'm commenting as I watch here, he's already screwed on the "problem" of evil. He's got the whole thing ass backwards. The only way to really solve the problem of evil from a theistic point of view is as he rightly points out the "lack of perspective argument" ie "Maybe there is a larger plan"/maybe it isnt evil after all/maybe its all part of gods plan or similar nonsense.

The point about bringing up this from an atheistic point of view is that there is of course a much more elegant, more logical, more reasonable and more probable solution to the "problem" of evil: There is no god.

It seems like Keller hasnt even considered this as a real possibility, because if he did, he would realize that the problem dissappears entirely. And its not just for human acts of evil, of course. Think of the recent Japan Tsunami..Thousands pointlessly killed by the physics of tectonic plate movement. In a godless universe there is no "why?!!" here, we live on a thin crust wrapping around a lava ball, partially covered by water. A tsunami now and again is inevitable.

If you believe in god, you'll have to make up lots of shitty excuses for these kind of events

None of this proves that there is no god, its just one of those many things that makes it unlikely.

Oh and now his dragging Stalins corpse out again to bash atheism. Nothing to do with atheism. Stalinism was a sick personality cult catering to creduilty and superstition in order to promote a form of marxism. The reason they went after Christianity was because they were competing to convert the gullible to a new mindless cult.

Its not just that its pointless "keeping scores" as it were, I would like to see him tackle Hitchens 2-part Challenge:
Part 1: Name for me one good thing done, or one nice thing said, in the name of religion, that it would be unthinkable that a secularist/atheist could just as reasonably say or do.

I've never hard a satisfying answer to part 1.

Part 2: Name for me one bad thing done, Or one bad thing said, in the name of religion,that it would be unthinkable that a secularist/atheist could just as reasonably say or do

I bet you thought of something after reading the fifth word in that sentence.

Its not a tie.

Kelller parroting atheist argument:"Until you prove there is a god, I dont have to believe in god!"

What a dishonest douche.

I've never actually heard any atheist make that argument. Heres how the argument really is: I've never seen a shred of evidence, ever, anywhere, in the history of everything that would even suggest, in the slightest,remotest possible way that there might be a god. None. Zip, Zero. I'm not demanding that you come up with a mathematical proof or anything, far from it, but until there is some evidence, ANY kind of evidence, I dont see any reason to believe in god, any more than santa.

More rubbish: Why do I assume god is "inside" the universe? I dont, douchebag, I'm not assuming anything, its your invisible friend, moron, you can fantasize. Oh great, there you go now... "He might be outside of everything", please do go on wasting brainpower trying to make that work..

"You cant prove anything" "So why do you say to God.."---BEEP-- I dont say anything, Keller, I dont talk to invisible things that arent there.

"You cant prove there is no god, so not believing is an act of faith" Yup, I take the same risk you do, Keller, But I'd wager disbelieving in Cthulhu will land you in much more trouble than the mere wuzzy little lake of fire I'll be surfing on (while listening rock music).

Oh fuck. "Fine-tuning" now.. Yep, this universe, that has almost NOTHING but vaccum at minus 270 celsius instantly deadly to any living thing, where the extremely tiny exceptions are 99.999% nuclear fireballs that will burn anything to death once its close enough not to freeze to death. So among a hundred billion galaxies with a hundred billion stars, we know of exactly one that has a planet at just the right distance. What are the chances, eh? Ten thousand billion stars and one of them has life around it (and in few million years its gonna toast that motherfucker too). Ergo: stars are perfect places to have life around. Yup Finetuning. Four aces? more like one ace and ten thousand billion worthless cards, but whatever.

Of course, if I was god, I might make just , I dont know, lets say ten stars, with lots of fine planets around them with lush green envirionments and no nasty earthquakes, asteroids, hurricanes and so on, perhaps I'd even make sure that the sun doesnt blow up and kill everybody in the end. But then again, what the hell do I know..


Ok, that was half an hour. maybe I'll do the rest tomorrow.

>> ^NordlichReiter:

I heard the waves in Japan were 7 meters high.


Aye! So I've heard! Kills men by the hundred. And if HE were here, he'd consume the English with fireballs from his eyes, and bolts of lightning from his arse!

>> ^AnomalousDatum:

So he apparently didn't get past the first story mission. I don't blame him, 20 hours into the game, I still haven't bothered to get onto the main island which is 3x as large as the first biggish island.
On another note, Magic is a tad overpowered in this game; when you can summon 8 lvl 32 monsters with 160% health and damage at level 20, there's not much point in doing anything else other than summoning a whirling rock barrier so nothing can possibly reach you. Then proceed to instant casting 1000 damage homing fireballs that also stuns everything within 8 meters.


This is the way magic should be. I mean if I got magic powers and somebody fights me I would just use telekinesis to squeeze shut their blood vessels going to and from their heart and brain. Or how about teleporting your enemy into the sun, or your enemies brain, or teleporting a stone inside your enemies head? That'll do the trick...

Magic in most games are way too underpowered in my opinion. Ohh, look you spent 15 years working out and training to be a master swordsman... (One thought later) Now you are 2000 meters under water, hope you can breath water and survive the water pressure... No? Oh, I'm sorry, I know magic so I can...

So he apparently didn't get past the first story mission. I don't blame him, 20 hours into the game, I still haven't bothered to get onto the main island which is 3x as large as the first biggish island.

On another note, Magic is a tad overpowered in this game; when you can summon 8 lvl 32 monsters with 160% health and damage at level 20, there's not much point in doing anything else other than summoning a whirling rock barrier so nothing can possibly reach you. Then proceed to instant casting 1000 damage homing fireballs that also stuns everything within 8 meters.